RPI 2013 Part V: Who Wants Screech?

[Shoot the Puck]

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You guys are no fun.

I believe rumor has it that a special bottle can be found in a Troy eatery known for it's great breakfasts. This bottle is to be opened when a specified "goal" is reached by the RPI hockey team. Hoping this is our season to do it. I wonder if Mr. Gardiner would come down from the frozen North to join in the celebration.

 

[lugnut92]

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I believe rumor has it that a special bottle can be found in a Troy eatery known for it's great breakfasts. This bottle is to be opened when a specified "goal" is reached by the RPI hockey team. Hoping this is our season to do it. I wonder if Mr. Gardiner would come down from the frozen North to join in the celebration.

Ooooooooohhhhhhhh.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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I believe rumor has it that a special bottle can be found in a Troy eatery known for it's great breakfasts. This bottle is to be opened when a specified "goal" is reached by the RPI hockey team. Hoping this is our season to do it. I wonder if Mr. Gardiner would come down from the frozen North to join in the celebration.

Although I do now remember this, until "Gardiner's dad" was brought into the conversation, I had forgotten about it. Pete graduated in 2000, and am pretty sure his father (Frank I think) did this early in his career which started in 1996-97. I am not sure when it was mentioned last, but has been quite a while.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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clean sweep in ECAC Weekly Awards for Kazzy & Bailen ..... http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2012-13/Weekly_Awards/20130603_M_Weekly_Awards

Congrats to both. it's highly doubtful that they will repeat this week.

 

[FreshFish]

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Several threads back (perhaps in Part II??) I had asked why we tried to break through an opponent's forecheck either by trying to carry the puck out of our zone, or pass it, rather than loft it down ice.

Now, obviously we've changed something in our game so that we aren't being trapped in our own zone so much, and I haven't been able to watch enough games to discern what it is (unless it is merely the difference in opponents' strategy or skill between our OOC schedule to our ECAC schedule).

Still, the question persists. From time to time I catch a few minutes of a pro game here and there, and I'll see someone lofting a puck out of their own end every five minutes or so; it seems a routine play. Yet I don't recall seeing that technique used in our games, ever.

Is there a difference in rules or some other reason for this difference?

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Several threads back (perhaps in Part II??) I had asked why we tried to break through an opponent's forecheck either by trying to carry the puck out of our zone, or pass it, rather than loft it down ice.

Now, obviously we've changed something in our game so that we aren't being trapped in our own zone so much, and I haven't been able to watch enough games to discern what it is (unless it is merely the difference in opponents' strategy or skill between our OOC schedule to our ECAC schedule).

Still, the question persists. From time to time I catch a few minutes of a pro game here and there, and I'll see someone lofting a puck out of their own end every five minutes or so; it seems a routine play. Yet I don't recall seeing that technique used in our games, ever.

Is there a difference in rules or some other reason for this difference?

The team does have a play for that; I hear the coach calling the play once in a while (for obvious reasons, I will not disclose what they say; if you want to know, sit near the bench during a game). I think it may have to do with prevention measures against icing (although I'd think by D-I you can shoot a puck to almost exactly where you want it to settle), or even all the low ceilings that exist in the league. It could also be that Coach wants us to be aggressive and get puck possession, while what you describe seems to me to be more like a clearing play.

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

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You guys are no fun.

Now that Iknow what it is, I'll have some.

 

[FreshFish]

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what you describe seems to me to be more like a clearing play.

um, yes, that's the whole point, no? if you are trapped in your own end and need to relieve the pressure or need a shift change, you get it out of your own end without icing and without ceding control of the puck until it reaches their blue line or their end.

I was merely noting how disparate the occurance of the play is....it is so routine and so widespread at the pro level and (at least in my limited observation) so rare from us. That we even have to call a play for it merely emphasizes the discrepancy: it sounds like it might not even occur to our players otherwise, if they have to hear something called out to remind them of it.

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

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um, yes, that's the whole point, no? if you are trapped in your own end and need to relieve the pressure or need a shift change, you get it out of your own end without icing and without ceding control of the puck until it reaches their blue line or their end.

I was merely noting how disparate the occurance of the play is....it is so routine and so widespread at the pro level and (at least in my limited observation) so rare from us. That we even have to call a play for it merely emphasizes the discrepancy: it sounds like it might not even occur to our players otherwise, if they have to hear something called out to remind them of it.

You are right about that play in the pros. I watch a lot of pro games and it is wide spread thoughout the NHL.
I believe that you don't see it as much in college, is because the players don't have the same control of the puck in college. I have seen it tried many times in college and it almost always is played to hard leading to an icing.
Just need to practice it a lot more to control the lob into the neutral zone without over doing it.

 

[DavidSec17]

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One thing I've noticed is our passing as greatly improved. In our defensive zone, each d man seems to know where his partner is, which allows them break out more efficiently. Sometimes they reverse ice which loses the opposing forchecker, which allows for crisp breakouts. They go thru the neutral zone with speed as well. Some of the many improvements over the past couple months, and it has been fun to watch. Great job by the players ans coaches, can't wait for next weekend.

 

[FreshFish]

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Just need to practice it a lot more to control the lob into the neutral zone without over doing it.

....and since generally practice time is limited and usually devoted to higher priority items.....good point.

It seems to me though that this kind of play could be a game-changer if it can in fact be set up as a designed play. If one player does develop sufficient puck control to be able to loft it toward an area (which can be fairly large) and a teammate takes off toward that spot at the same time.....I've seen a similar result in soccer, where one team is pinned deep in its own end trying to survive a barrage and suddenly the ball is booted downfield, not just anywhere, but toward a certain part of the pitch, while the lone striker takes off toward that same spot...every now and then you see either a breakaway or a quick counter-attack. Not only does it relieve the pressure, it keeps the defense from pressing forward too far.

David's point is excellent as well: as the team has gelled into a unit instead of a bunch of individuals, we've been able to break the press by passing to spots instead of to people. I noticed that difference last season when we played Notre Dame, it was quite apparent how much better teamwork they had than we did at that time. It's nice to hear that we are finally playing that way as well.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Without a Peer had a tweet about college hockey rinks that play both the Canadian and American anthems. I know for sure that Dwyer does it (where Niagara plays), and I believe I also read that LSSU does both anthems. I also seem to remember Princeton doing both when we were last there, but I cannot say that they do it with regularity.

 

[DrDemento]

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One thing I've noticed is our passing as greatly improved. In our defensive zone, each d man seems to know where his partner is, which allows them break out more efficiently. Sometimes they reverse ice which loses the opposing forchecker, which allows for crisp breakouts. They go thru the neutral zone with speed as well. Some of the many improvements over the past couple months, and it has been fun to watch. Great job by the players ans coaches, can't wait for next weekend.

Key point and something most of us have noticed even if not commented upon. The D Men are very much anticiapting where their partner is out there. Passes are made expecting someone to be tthere and they most often are. I suppose a good part of this was the learning process and more of it due to playing with the same partner enough times. I still get a bit nervous when we play with the puck back and forth behind or in front of our own net-but at least i do feel so much more secure with our control of the puck in our own end. I also think that Kasdorf in goal has had a settling influence on all the D men. Although he does not appear to be directing traffic out there, his movements from side to side seem to be so much more in sync with the movement of the 2 defensemen. We have had quite a stretch now where we are just darn hard to score much against.

 

[DrDemento]

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Without a Peer had a tweet about college hockey rinks that play both the Canadian and American anthems. I know for sure that Dwyer does it (where Niagara plays), and I believe I also read that LSSU does both anthems. I also seem to remember Princeton doing both when we were last there, but I cannot say that they do it with regularity.

I can-they do it for every game. Although their loud speaker system is totally impossible to understand.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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From a post on eLynah by Trotsky (called here Kepler)

Schafer mentioned in the pregame that the officials could be unpredictable, particularly on the road, in distingushing checking from roughing.

I wonder why Schafer would have mentioned that sicne it usually goes in Cornell's favor.

 

[REDaero91]

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From a post on eLynah by Trotsky (called here Kepler) I wonder why Schafer would have mentioned that sicne it usually goes in Cornell's favor.

I was shocked to see that at Cornell this year the calls actually went in our favor (something like 5-2?) Didn't help the overall outcome for us though.

 

[REDaero91]

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....and since generally practice time is limited and usually devoted to higher priority items.....good point.

It seems to me though that this kind of play could be a game-changer if it can in fact be set up as a designed play. If one player does develop sufficient puck control to be able to loft it toward an area (which can be fairly large) and a teammate takes off toward that spot at the same time.....I've seen a similar result in soccer, where one team is pinned deep in its own end trying to survive a barrage and suddenly the ball is booted downfield, not just anywhere, but toward a certain part of the pitch, while the lone striker takes off toward that same spot...every now and then you see either a breakaway or a quick counter-attack. Not only does it relieve the pressure, it keeps the defense from pressing forward too far.

David's point is excellent as well: as the team has gelled into a unit instead of a bunch of individuals, we've been able to break the press by passing to spots instead of to people. I noticed that difference last season when we played Notre Dame, it was quite apparent how much better teamwork they had than we did at that time. It's nice to hear that we are finally playing that way as well.

This would be good for Rogic's line, with his speed...usually he takes off with the puck and by the time he gets to the net is going too fast to get a shot off and there's no one with him to pass to. If he were the recipient of a pass, however...you'd have to watch for offsides though. Schroeder's fast too, and he and Rogic seemed to have almost worked out a system where they made it to the opponent's net at the same time so there was someone to receive a pass, but then Schroeder got hurt. I would love to see those two on a line with Travis Fulton, although they're all wingers.

 

[ServinisScores]

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In the spirit of Screech (was that Gardiner's dad's celebratory beverage?) and other things from the wayback machine, I came across the following page on the website of the CT Oilers (formerly Capital District Selects):

http://www.ctoilers.com/page/show/539536-co-owner-and-director-jacques-de-saint-phalle

JdSP was a small guy with wheels. Being a small guy without such skills, he was one of my favorites.

Me too. Great find!

 

[turk181]

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This would be good for Rogic's line, with his speed...usually he takes off with the puck and by the time he gets to the net is going too fast to get a shot off and there's no one with him to pass to. If he were the recipient of a pass, however...you'd have to watch for offsides though. Schroeder's fast too, and he and Rogic seemed to have almost worked out a system where they made it to the opponent's net at the same time so there was someone to receive a pass, but then Schroeder got hurt. I would love to see those two on a line with Travis Fulton, although they're all wingers.

The NY Rangers play this to almost perfection with Carl Hagelin. BTW, in case some season ticket holders are still wondering, I received a letter today (I'm sure you will also) that the 3 xtra tix for the playoffs will be good for the Qtr-Finals.....3rd game if not necessary will be refunded.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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This would be good for Rogic's line, with his speed...usually he takes off with the puck and by the time he gets to the net is going too fast to get a shot off and there's no one with him to pass to. If he were the recipient of a pass, however...you'd have to watch for offsides though. Schroeder's fast too, and he and Rogic seemed to have almost worked out a system where they made it to the opponent's net at the same time so there was someone to receive a pass, but then Schroeder got hurt. I would love to see those two on a line with Travis Fulton, although they're all wingers.

I thought Rogic used to play centre?