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RPI 2010 Off-Season III -- How we learned to stop worrying and love the Class of '14

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Today is 16 June 2010. There are 108 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 2 October for the start of next season.
 
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Changing the subject a little bit but keep your fingers crossed. I think this is gonna be Oates year to get in the Hall. We will know on Tuesday.
 
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johnk said:
Changing the subject a little bit but keep your fingers crossed. I think this is gonna be Oates year to get in the Hall. We will know on Tuesday.
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I certainly hope that you are correct, but he doesn't seem to be getting much press this year.
 
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troyboy said:
I don't want to see fights every 5 min.but a little dose of FIST respect once and awhile isn't a bad thing....In fact I believe that would go a longer way to eliminating hitting from behind and other dangerous physical contact than any rule USA hockey can come up with !.... Just like removing the cages would curtail high sticking to the head ! Hockey is and should remain a game of respect whether it be speed,skill or a god old fashioned a_s kicking that earns that respect its all the same...JMO
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We have a fundamental disagreement over this issue; and that's okay. Allowing fights during games would make the games longer and increase injuries. Allowing players to fight might reduce illegal and cheap hits, but it would not eliminate them. More rules will not eliminate those dangerous hits either; but tighter and more equitable and consistent enforcement would likely reduce them.

I'm glad that there will be some scientific study of the cage vs. shield issue so that we may get a final resolution to this debate. I don't think it is a given that getting rid of the cages will reduce sticks to the head. I think Jack Parker's contention that the full shields and cages reduce visibility is a more compelling argument for going to half shields if the research confirms his assertion.

The other major team sports (football, LAX, baseball, basketball, soccer) don't allow fighting and they seem to be doing fine. Restrict fighting to the ring and play hockey on the ice.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I certainly hope that you are correct, but he doesn't seem to be getting much press this year.
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The fact that his goals scored total is only 341 (as compared to others who are up over 400) works against him. This year is not a bumper crop and he has his best chance but I suppose the voters are not as impressed by assists for a forward as they are goals. With defensemen it is probably a different story. Here's hoping we get our first RPI alumnus in.:)
 
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Jasma said:
We have a fundamental disagreement over this issue; and that's okay. Allowing fights during games would make the games longer and increase injuries. Allowing players to fight might reduce illegal and cheap hits, but it would not eliminate them. More rules will not eliminate those dangerous hits either; but tighter and more equitable and consistent enforcement would likely reduce them.

I'm glad that there will be some scientific study of the cage vs. shield issue so that we may get a final resolution to this debate. I don't think it is a given that getting rid of the cages will reduce sticks to the head. I think Jack Parker's contention that the full shields and cages reduce visibility is a more compelling argument for going to half shields if the research confirms his assertion.

The other major team sports (football, LAX, baseball, basketball, soccer) don't allow fighting and they seem to be doing fine. Restrict fighting to the ring and play hockey on the ice.
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Agree with thoughts re: fighting. I do believe that the full shields not only impede vision but they allow players to be far more "brave" with their sticks than they would be if their own grills were exposed to the elements, if you know what I mean. That said, there is no way around the obvious protection a full shield offers when it comes to pucks to the face.
 
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College players should be required to wear full face shields has they do now.
Lets remember that for the most part, these kids are going to go into something other than professional hockey.
They should not have to worry about a stick or puck in the face.
Anyone see Briere's face after he took a stick with the half sheild on? He gets paid for that. When they start paying college players, than they can take chances with their futures.
As for fighting, there is no place for it in college hockey. JMO
 
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Ralph Baer said:
5 to 1 isn't great odds. :(
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This will all depend on how many candidates the committee is willing to accept. If it's only 2-then there is no chance. If it's 3 then it's possible. If it's 4 then it would be a miscarriage if Oates is not selected.
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
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Anyone see Briere's face after he took a stick with the half sheild on? He gets paid for that. When they start paying college players, than they can take chances with their futures...
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At $50,000 or so per year in RPI tuition/R&B, some would argue they are indeed being compensated...:p I agree that the full shields will likely remain.
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
College players should be required to wear full face shields has they do now.
Lets remember that for the most part, these kids are going to go into something other than professional hockey.
They should not have to worry about a stick or puck in the face.
Anyone see Briere's face after he took a stick with the half sheild on? He gets paid for that. When they start paying college players, than they can take chances with their futures.
As for fighting, there is no place for it in college hockey. JMO
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Well said!
 
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DrDemento said:
The fact that his goals scored total is only 341 (as compared to others who are up over 400) works against him. This year is not a bumper crop and he has his best chance but I suppose the voters are not as impressed by assists for a forward as they are goals. With defensemen it is probably a different story. Here's hoping we get our first RPI alumnus in.:)
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Stupidly, it's his lack of post-season success (no Stanley Cup) that seems to hold him back the most. A lack of goals is one thing, but Dino Ciccarelli has over 600 of them and he's not in yet either - he's been waiting longer than Oates has but Dino got into it with reporters so... They're holding a bit of a grudge.

I'll have yet another post on my own site touting Oates (just as I've done the last two years). While I'm proud of my photoshop from last year, this year's picture is going to be angry as I stated last year:
Oates in 2010 or we riot.
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Today is 17 June 2010. There are 107 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 2 October for the start of next season.
 
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Re: RPI 2010 Off-Season III -- How we learned to stop worrying and love the Class of '14

Saginaw traded for Brandon Pirri's rights from Sudbury, word is making a very strong push to leave and go to the O
Will be interesting to see if Blackhawks are in favor, will know after dev camp in early July
 
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Hokydad said:
Saginaw traded for Brandon Pirri's rights from Sudbury, word is making a very strong push to leave and go to the O
Will be interesting to see if Blackhawks are in favor, will know after dev camp in early July
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The player that he was traded for plays for UML http://www.sudburywolves.com/wolves/index.php?id=462. It sounds like two OHL teams have nothing to lose. It will also keep us posting here. :) Visca redshirted last season.
 
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A comment, from a Saginaw fan, that makes some sense to me http://www.mlive.com/spirit/index.s...rit_trade_for_right/4074/comments-newest.html
Funny that the Spirit only release his OJHL information and fail to mention that last year he actually played college hockey for RPI. Quite the successful season, putting up 43 points in 39 games is very good at the college level. Word is he would be a dominant OHL player but I can't imagine him leaving RPI unless he is absolutely set on going to the NHL. Too good of a school to forfeit the remaining scholarship even though it might lack the exposure of larger programs.

Odd though that they would make this deal. I'd be curious to know if there is a family connection with anyone currently in the Spirit organization. We keep getting toyed with on the Saad situation, which I'm doubting he ever shows up. If Pirri and Saad report, Pasquale and Telegin come back, and they get one solid rookie from this summer's draft then this team would be championship caliber.
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Ralph Baer said:
The player that he was traded for plays for UML http://www.sudburywolves.com/wolves/index.php?id=462. It sounds like two OHL teams have nothing to lose. It will also keep us posting here. :) Visca redshirted last season.
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I'm not sure what the story is with Visca at Lowell. Coach MacDonald did say at one point he was not being redshirted and that it was a simple case of Visca not being able to break into the lineup. I'm not sure if that's changed. Like many Lowell fans I was a bit surprised since they brought him in as a 18 year old freshman, he could have played another year of junior.

So based on what happened last season I could see Visca making a move to the OHL. Hard to believe Pirri would leave RPI.
 
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