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[TigerFan86-87]

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Agreed...I started working at the Ritter in 1989 for work study hours as an undergrad and the women's team was definitely well equipped and competing in NCAA games. I distinctly remember working several ECAC playoff games vs SLU in the early 90s (losses, but still games).

EDIT: Now that I think about it, might not have been playoffs, but definitely ECAC league games.

I was wondering if it had something to do with the NCAA not recognizing a D-III championship until somewhat recently. But they have had a D-III championship since 2002, so that is likely not why. I looked in the Women's Hockey Media Guide from 2006-2007 (4 years ago) to see if there was any reference to Club vs. NCAA. There was not. There were plenty of references to the Lady Tigers' ECAC East membership including the following:
"During the 2005-06 campaign, the Tigers continued their streak of
winning seasons, finishing with a 15-10 record. They advanced to the
ECAC Semifinals for the 17th time in team history."
Last I checked, the ECAC was only comprised of NCAA teams, not club teams. And of note, the first five NCAA championship teams were also ECAC teams (Elmira twice, Middlebury three times). So RIT had to have been NCAA at least since 2002.
It seems very strange to me. I remember going to a few Women's games way back in the late 90's and they didn't seem to be lacking equipment even back then. I never saw them play a non-NCAA institution either. Heck, when they played Vermont, it was the Catamounts that looked more like a team trying to scrape together enough equipment for themselves. Their pants (blue) didn't match the jerseys (green and gold - just like the men's) and weren't even all the same shade of blue. RIT looked by far the more polished program each time I saw them play (I didn't see any national powers, however).

 

[RIT Fan]

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I was wondering if it had something to do with the NCAA not recognizing a D-III championship until somewhat recently. But they have had a D-III championship since 2002, so that is likely not why. I looked in the Women's Hockey Media Guide from 2006-2007 (4 years ago) to see if there was any reference to Club vs. NCAA. There was not. There were plenty of references to the Lady Tigers' ECAC East membership including the following:
"During the 2005-06 campaign, the Tigers continued their streak of
winning seasons, finishing with a 15-10 record. They advanced to the
ECAC Semifinals for the 17th time in team history."
Last I checked, the ECAC was only comprised of NCAA teams, not club teams. And of note, the first five NCAA championship teams were also ECAC teams (Elmira twice, Middlebury three times). So RIT had to have been NCAA at least since 2002.
It seems very strange to me. I remember going to a few Women's games way back in the late 90's and they didn't seem to be lacking equipment even back then. I never saw them play a non-NCAA institution either. Heck, when they played Vermont, it was the Catamounts that looked more like a team trying to scrape together enough equipment for themselves. Their pants (blue) didn't match the jerseys (green and gold - just like the men's) and weren't even all the same shade of blue. RIT looked by far the more polished program each time I saw them play (I didn't see any national powers, however).

I asked Scott today at the rink about this. The lady tigers have always been NCAA (mid 70's) never a club team. It's a misquote from the writer, Scotty was the first full time coach at RIT for women's hockey so maybe that's why there's some confusion. RIT did play the edge team but that was during the Gransky era. They've played teams from Ontario for their one exhibition game the past couple years.
Some equipment was provided back in the day, pants, gloves, helmets, jerseys and some sticks. Everything else was bought by the players. He wouldn't say what they get now but they have a better situation now by being able to provide a lot more for the players than they ever have.

The new locker rooms are starting to take shape outside. And Stu and his gang are putting the ice down right now. Hockey season is right around the corner.

Let's go Vancouver. We need a Tiger on the CUP! A Tiger has already won the AHL cup this year, now we need the big one.

 

[LoneStar]

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To clarify, I just talked to former Coach Grainsky and asked him to read the article about the rise of the womens program. As I remember, my daughter did play in a game against the Edge that season. He said that his RIT team had a two week gap in the schedule in January so they played a scrimmage vs. the Edge. There were no refs (Asst. Coaches blew offsides), no clock, RIT wore practice jerseys and limited the play of their regulars in the game. Both teams even took turns running extended powerplay/pk situations. Another purpose of the scrimmage was to get a closer look at Stack and a couple of others who he and Asst. Coach Gorczynski intended to recruit the following year. Finally, he reminded me that during his tenure at RIT, there was a celebration of 30 years of RIT womens ice hockey.

 

[mar7967]

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that would make a lot of sense.

 

[RIT Fan]

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Bieksa went to BGSU. Although he played there after Coach Wilson left to come to RIT, maybe the coach helped recruit him. I don't know how long Hoffberg stayed at BGSU, but Bieksa may have played for him. He's got to be aware of RIT at least to some degree.

Just going by how early everyone is commited now, It's quite possible that Wilson did recruit Bieksa even though Wilson left the year before his arrival. But Coach Brian Hills was definitely at BG before Bieksa's arrival and his freshmen year. My guess would be Hills was involved, maybe Wilson on a smaller degree just because of the timing.
Either way, he's a great player. And more people will be aware of RIT because of Chris Tanev.

 

[LtPowers]

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Wikipedia and the media guide both have the women's varsity team dating back to 1975

Don't go by Wikipedia; I wrote that article and used the media guide for most of it. =)

Either way, he's a great player. And more people will be aware of RIT because of Chris Tanev.

Yeah, we're getting mentioned more-or-less constantly. =) It's fantastic, especially since we already recruit so well in British Columbia.


Powers &8^]

 

[blazer777]

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When Tanev's on the ice, Vancouver's defense is doing a pretty good job but the other lines are struggling.

All three goals so far were when Tanev was on the bench.

 

[Shortofbrillant]

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4 charged in TTC fraud probe
Published 1 hour 11 minutes ago


Curtis Rush Police Reporter

A Toronto Transit Commission project manager, his wife and son are among four people charged in an alleged $150,000 fraud involving fake invoices and a secret commission for paving work at TTC bus stations.

The other person charged is the owner of IPAC Paving Ltd.

Between June 2009 and July 2010, IPAC billed the TTC close to $200,000 for work that amounted to about $50,000, police said.

IPAC did work at TTC sites, including the Wilson, Islington and Finch bus stations, police said.

Police allege that the TTC project manager, who hired IPAC and was responsible for paying invoices, received a secret commission of $58,000.

His wife and son allegedly created bank accounts and received funds from IPAC under fraudulent companies, said Det. Const. Chris Devereux.

The investigation is now probing a three-year contract with an $860,000 limit awarded to IPAC in 2007. Amendments were made to the purchase order to increase the limit to $1.8 million, said TTC spokesman Brad Ross.

Ross emphasized, however, that those adjustments need authorization and are always made for legitimate reasons.

The company has been doing contract work for the TTC and city since 2001.

The initial investigation was launched in July 2009 when the TTC received an insiders tip.

Councillor Karen Stintz, chair of the TTC, said police were called in a year later when the irregularities were found to be worse than first suspected.

She called the situation very serious.

The public needs to have confidence that were managing these contracts in the public interest, she said.

Ross said a forensic audit team is reviewing controls and the TTC will cancel all IPAC contracts and seek court action to recover assets.

IPAC Paving owner Sebastian Corbo, 51, of Toronto, was charged with fraud, possession of property obtained by crime, laundering proceeds of crime and two counts of conspiracy to commit an indictable offence.

TTC project manager Bruno Colavecchia, 49, of Maple, is charged with fraud, laundering proceeds of crime, possession of proceeds of crime, an agent receiving a secret commission and two counts of conspiracy to commit an indictable offence. He was dismissed from his job Wednesday morning.

Vincenza Grossi, 49, and Michael Colavecchia, 21, both of Maple, are charged with laundering the proceeds of crime, possession of proceeds of crime and conspiracy to commit an indictable offence.

They are scheduled to appear in court July 28.

With files from Paul Moloney

 

[redhotzep96]

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Vincenza Grossi, 49, and Michael Colavecchia, 21, both of Maple, are charged with laundering the proceeds of crime, possession of proceeds of crime and conspiracy to commit an indictable offence.

Great. FANTASTIC.

 

[blazer777]

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Vincenza Grossi, 49, and Michael Colavecchia, 21, both of Maple, are charged with laundering the proceeds of crime, possession of proceeds of crime and conspiracy to commit an indictable offence.

Well, that's going to bring down interest on his game worn jersey from last year

 

[RIT Winters]

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And suddenly we're minus 1 veteran.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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RPI blog Without a Peer preview of RIT http://www.withoutapeer.com/2011/06/know-your-enemy-rit.html.

I ahve no connection to the blog.

 

[Zyklon]

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nice mention of Tanev: http://thecollegehockeyblog.com/2011/06/16/boston-bruins-ex-collegians/

 

[Frozen]

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Now that the Stanley Cup discussion is going to die down -- any word on RIT Women's Div I chances? What s going on in that front? Would a athletic-wide upgrade to Division II help any with this effort, and any idea if that's even remotely possible (considering we just joined Liberty..)

 

[komey1]

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The women need the moratorium on playups to be lifted in order to become DI.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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RIT's non-conference schedule is now full; they have Union on October 22nd at home.

 

[LtPowers]

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Would a athletic-wide upgrade to Division II help any with this effort, and any idea if that's even remotely possible (considering we just joined Liberty..)

Of course it's possible, but there'd be a waiting period before being postseason eligible. It would help, though, as I believe women's hockey has a National Championship for D-I and D-II combined.


Powers &8^]

 

[RIT Winters]

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Campus wide D-2 would also mean scholarships, which is extremely exciting given Wilson's skill and finding talent.

 

[mar7967]

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The women need the moratorium on playups to be lifted in order to become DI.

They need more than that. The moratorium is lifted in August, but the NCAA is still not keen on teams playing up. Last I heard, RIT was "getting lawyers involved" to help fight the NCAA.

Campus wide D-2 would also mean scholarships, which is extremely exciting given Wilson's skill and finding talent.

This won't happen for a while. The plans were to join Liberty League or look into moving up a division...and we joined Liberty League.

 

[kbranch]

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They need more than that. The moratorium is lifted in August, but the NCAA is still not keen on teams playing up. Last I heard, RIT was "getting lawyers involved" to help fight the NCAA.

Two of the concerns the NCAA needs to consider when a school wants to play up is the institute's level of commitment to the play-up sport and ability to compete as a DI team. With the facilities upgrades in progress and expected in the near future and the success the men have had at the highest levels of competition these factors can no longer be disqualiers for moving RIT's women's team up to DI. RIT has demonstrated the commitment and the success by any measure to achieve at the DI level.

Perhaps the biggest issue is that the NCAA has very distinct sports philosophies for DI and DIII and mixing them under one institution does not look very good for the NCAA. Since exceptions have been granted in the past I bet the lawyers will have a field day with this if it comes down to it.