>>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-13: Clawing our way up the standings in the 2nd half

[RITFan67]

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The surest way to ruin the atmosphere of the new rink will be if they start to reserve all the prime seating. It's undemocratic.

Rumor has it that all the seats at the Ritter were going to have numbers assigned to them for potential reserved seating which is is why the lines appeared on the bleachers last year. Does anyone know if there is any truth in this... or can comment about it?

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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The Ritter 30 years ago:

 

[dxk3355]

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Aw man, I wish we had unpainted walls now.

 

[Downstate_RIT_Fan]

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I'm not recommending bleachers or benches. But there's no reason that having seats mean they have to be reserved. Look at the Blue Cross RIT games as a perfect example of how general admission in bigger barns with actual seating works.

Actually my first experienace at BCA for a Brick City Homecoming game is why I think there needs to be reserved seat seating. I showed up 25 minutes before the game not even paying attention to the fact that the tickets in my hand were General Admission tickets. Yes, I know, bad move, it's never happened again. Just like Coach Serratore says, and I paraphrase, it was a big pumpkin patch. Well, four seats together was impossible, even two seats together was near impossible and most of the folks who put T-shirts across the back of empty seats to save for their friends could care less that my son and I were struggling to find a seat. I wondered if I had been a senior citizen if I would of been afforded the same courtesy?

I would number all the seats. I would have an area of benches as well that could allow more room for bands or large parties such as Scout Night, youth hockey teams or whatever, and I would charge appropriately for each section. I would make sure that if a fan was confined to a wheelchair that there would be viewing areas for that fan as well. That means an elevator as well.

I agree with those who want to be able to sit in their seat even if they show up late. Stuff happens, not every fan is a fan with their hair on fire ready to scream their heads off. Do we want to penalize paying fans for not being that fan by sticking them in a corner somewhere because they didn't get to the rink 2 hours early?

 

[kbranch]

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Needing to be in your seat by 5:45 for a 7:05 start is absurd - reserve seats are a must in the new arena. I bet we'd have more sellouts in the Ritter if people who wanted seats were confident they'd get one. Standing room is for those who want to stand and those who wait 'til the last minute to buy a ticket. Certainly a general admission section for the CC with benches is fine if that's what they want, but I look forward to a new arena with reserve seats. I have alum friends who will dump their Amerks tickets as soon as they are assured a decent seat for every RIT home game.

 

[dxk3355]

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So if I have season tickets and the person next to me is annoying I have to spend the whole season next to them. Or if I have parents or friends at a game I can't get seats with them since my season ticket puts in a fixed seat.

 

[RITProf]

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So if I have season tickets and the person next to me is annoying I have to spend the whole season next to them. Or if I have parents or friends at a game I can't get seats with them since my season ticket puts in a fixed seat.

You just trade in your tickets for a new seat for the season (annoying person) or for a single game (to sit with others you bring along). (As in ... I want 4 seats together for Friday's game, here's my season ticket and I'll pay cash for the other 3.)

I might be making a big old assumption here, but that's how it should work.

 

[Downstate_RIT_Fan]

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So if I have season tickets and the person next to me is annoying I have to spend the whole season next to them. Or if I have parents or friends at a game I can't get seats with them since my season ticket puts in a fixed seat.

I would expect a professional ticket office to take care of seating problems if your individual situation is not something you can live with. I have had season tickets (2) for years at Tate Rink and have become friends with all the season ticket holders around me. I've had chances to move but have not. When I have friends in town (like when RIT was in town) I was able to purchase a couple of extra tickets in the row right behind my seats and exchange them with folks next to me so I could have four sitting together. If I wasn't able to do that I would of bought four in a row somewhere else in the rink and offered my two season tickets to friends, or sold them. Perhaps it's not the best solution, but in the example I wrote about above, paying the expense of driving over 300 miles to the BCA, paying for a downtown hotel, paying for tickets and then being relegated in a nose bleed section to watch your favorite team because you didn't think you had to get to the game two hours early to get a good seat is not a great solution either.

Of course opinions vary ...

 

[Downstate_RIT_Fan]

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You just trade in your tickets for a new seat for the season (annoying person) or for a single game (to sit with others you bring along). (As in ... I want 4 seats together for Friday's game, here's my season ticket and I'll pay cash for the other 3.)

I might be making a big old assumption here, but that's how it should work.

You beat me to it Prof...

 

[LtPowers]

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Already at Ritter you have the loud end (CC/Season Tickets) and the quiet end.

Bull. The south end is not as loud as the Corner Crew, true. (But isn't that rather the point of the Crew? To concentrate the loudest fans in one corner?) The south end gets their share of licks in, moreso than the middle sections.


Powers &8^]

 

[LtPowers]

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Perhaps it's not the best solution, but in the example I wrote about above, paying the expense of driving over 300 miles to the BCA, paying for a downtown hotel, paying for tickets and then being relegated in a nose bleed section to watch your favorite team because you didn't think you had to get to the game two hours early to get a good seat is not a great solution either.

When there's a sellout, someone has to sit in the nosebleed seats. Why is doing it in the order one bought tickets inherently better than doing it in the order one arrives at the arena?


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[cplinford]

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When there's a sellout, someone has to sit in the nosebleed seats. Why is doing it in the order one bought tickets inherently better than doing it in the order one arrives at the arena?


Powers &8^]

Because forcing people, like season ticket holders who have made a financial commitment for the entire year, to show up 2 hours for their preferred seat does not entice renewals

 

[RITProf]

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When there's a sellout, someone has to sit in the nosebleed seats. Why is doing it in the order one bought tickets inherently better than doing it in the order one arrives at the arena?

Ever camp out in line for tickets to a concert? (There was a day when that actually rewarded you with tickets in the first couple of rows ... or tickets at all for some shows!)

I'm a firm believer in he who buys first should have the best seats ... along with some GA in the ends/corners for the students to pack into. Best of both worlds.

 

[RITFan67]

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The handling of tickets/seating is all part of our "growing up" in our Division I era as we transition into the new rink and new thinking. It's going to be different than the Ritter and yet retain some of the same feeling. Season tickets for some of the prime seats should be one of the benefits that is gained for the people that want them. Sounds like there are a bunch of people out there that are looking forward to it.

 

[kbranch]

When there's a sellout, someone has to sit in the nosebleed seats. Why is doing it in the order one bought tickets inherently better than doing it in the order one arrives at the arena?


Powers &8^]

Because you reward those who commit and buy tickets early over those who can show up and sit around doing nothing for two hours.

 

[Downstate_RIT_Fan]

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When there's a sellout, someone has to sit in the nosebleed seats. Why is doing it in the order one bought tickets inherently better than doing it in the order one arrives at the arena?


Powers &8^]

cplinford said it best...

I don't think that RIT feels they're going to sell out each night with a Corner Crew type fan base. Yes they will have a Corner Crew. Therefore for the remainder of the seats they will need to understand how to attract the fan that will pay full price all season long to bring his family, parents and friends to the game, introducing them to the exciting game of college hockey. Scrambling for General Admission seats is not part of that equation. I am confident that RIT understands this. I definitely could see an area where General Admission would work but certainly not the majority of the seats.

Again just my opinion. FWIW, Tate Rink has no GA seats. If the game is not a sellout many folks move around by the 3rd period much like a baseball game after the 7th inning. I go to RPI games as well, every ticket I ever bought at the HFH has an assigned seat number on it and that's where I sit.

 

[blazer777]

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I'm not recommending bleachers or benches. But there's no reason that having seats mean they have to be reserved. Look at the Blue Cross RIT games as a perfect example of how general admission in bigger barns with actual seating works.



This. A million times this. The people willing to pay the extra to have their reserved seat in a "prime" location are the same people who are going to sit through the whole game quietly and add nothing to the famed RIT hockey atmosphere. Already at Ritter you have the loud end (CC/Season Tickets) and the quiet end. If we start carving up all the good seats with reserved pricing, the whole barn will be more like the quiet end.

The college hockey experience SHOULD NOT seek to emulate its professional cousins. AHL and NHL arenas are rarely as exciting as a full college barn exactly because of the audience and the types of people they attract. I'd much rather have some people have to stand or leave than have a silent barn that's no fun to go to.

I'm sorry but there's nothing I hate more than showing up at BCA or some other general seating venue and find an entire row or section claimed by 1 or 2 people, saving seats for their freinds. At most venues, that have individual seats, seats are assigned when you buy your ticket so your guaranteed to be able to sit with the people you're going with.

Crowd noise is generally based off the play on the ice and the types of fans that make up your fan base. I think the noise tradition from the Ritter will carry over to the new arena just fine.

I can't see how that's a bad thing. IMHO.

 

[blazer777]

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Unfortunately, when you already have one of the top half dozen atmospheres in college hockey, there's almost no where to go but down.

Fine. You heard it here first. New arena will suck. Give everyone their money back.

You and Lerch going to be exchanging 'cookie recipes' Friday night before the game?

 

[Downstate_RIT_Fan]

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You and Lerch going to be exchanging 'cookie recipes' Friday night before the game?

LOL...or just make the whole place General Admission seating, free admission, and serve beer too...

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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You and Lerch going to be exchanging 'cookie recipes' Friday night before the game?

There's a reason we sometimes call my friend "Eeyore"!