>>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

[cplinford]

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If people didn't disagree, with fellow fans of the same team, talking about that team would get pretty boring

 

[MattS]

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I didn't take LtPowers' comments as being all that bad or an overreaction. Maybe some of you didn't agree with them but, wow, if there was an overreaction it was the some of the posts that followed. There is nothing wrong with wanting and expecting more. Maybe it is unrealistic, but it is what it is. In a lot of ways Wilson and the players have created their own "monster" by having such early and quick success. Many people expect it to continue with the same ease.

As for the situation of not playing consistently well; while I am sure Wilson is addressing it, the results on the ice haven't been all that encouraging. It seems to me (& I have only seen the homes games on TV) that the mistakes are not getting appreciably less and are the same ones over and over.

 

[day310]

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I have to give credit to RIT this weekend for not retaliating on some very questionable hits by UCONN. Was in person for the Saturday game.

UCONN got VERY chippy throughout the game. Questionable hits, throwing a RIT player down after a goal, blocking our guys from getting into the bench, etc. UCONN did the same when I saw them at Merrimack earlier in the year and Merrimack bought right into it and spent most of the night in the box... Somehow we didn't retaliate most often Saturday. Perhaps that was when McReynolds was in the locker room Either way, this team has gotten a lot smarter this year I think with the penalties.

 

[cplinford]

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It seems to me (& I have only seen the homes games on TV) that the mistakes are not getting appreciably less and are the same ones over and over.

I've never played check hockey so I might be coming out of left field with this. But really, when you see a player a couple feet from the boards with their back turned, is it really hard to hold up and not plow them into the boards? Its a guaranteed 2 minute call and many times more. Year after year the refs have called this and the only thing inconsistent is whether is a minor/major/game. I'm sure the coach is talking about it, I'm just hoping the players are listening. RIT seems to take at least one of these penalties a game.

 

[day310]

Re: >>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

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I've never played check hockey so I might be coming out of left field with this. But really, when you see a player a couple feet from the boards with their back turned, is it really hard to hold up and not plow them into the boards?

There are ways to hold up on a play like that. You'll see a lot of guys "guide" a player into the boards by bear hugging them, etc. This way you're not driving his neck into the boards. However a check / hit into the boards like that will like you said guarantee a trip to the sin bin.

 

[ken66]

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If history is our guide, a split this past weekend vs UConn was quite acceptable, thank you. They have played RIT tough over the years. Two years ago RIT had the devil's own time beating them at Ritter in the playoffs, and if memory serves they made it to the AHA final four at the BCA last year. They are seemingly a more talented team each year. Conversation this weekend first turned on Corey Conacher's nice year so far in the AHL, and then to some other fine players from Atlantic Hockey over the years. While Conacher got our votes as the best we had seen since RIT made the jump to D-1, other players mentioned were Bear Trapp, Zanette, Brenner, Pinner, Jarmin and Johnson, and some feelas from Air Force. (and I'm sure we missed a few) You get the idea. However, we failed to mention one dominant position player in the league this year; one player who can change a game. While the level of play has improved in Atlantic Hockey, and the games seem much more closely contested across the board, we were unable to come up with a name for the best player in the league today. I realize the season is still young, and we haven't seen all the teams, but what am I missing here? Any suggestions from someone more tuned-in than I?

 

[LtPowers]

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Good heavens.

Here's what I said: "Given the success we've had, I don't think it's unreasonable to be disappointed with an apparent regression in scoring touch."

If you think that's being overly negative, I would advise you to read some of the other threads on these boards.


Powers &8^]

 

[redhotzep96]

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Good heavens.

Here's what I said: "Given the success we've had, I don't think it's unreasonable to be disappointed with an apparent regression in scoring touch."

If you think that's being overly negative, I would advise you to read some of the other threads on these boards.

I agree. Calm down everybody.

 

[be711]

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I have to give credit to RIT this weekend for not retaliating on some very questionable hits by UCONN. Was in person for the Saturday game.

UCONN got VERY chippy throughout the game. Questionable hits, throwing a RIT player down after a goal, blocking our guys from getting into the bench, etc. UCONN did the same when I saw them at Merrimack earlier in the year and Merrimack bought right into it and spent most of the night in the box... Somehow we didn't retaliate most often Saturday. Perhaps that was when McReynolds was in the locker room Either way, this team has gotten a lot smarter this year I think with the penalties.

Both games and both teams were playing chippy, not just UCONN. Was at both games, and have to say they were both absolute wars. Very entertaining games to watch. Both teams were playing hard nosed hockey. Gatherings after every whistle, at the benches, and plenty of chirping. Just looked like two good teams that flat out don't like each other. But the important thing is neither team took it to far. There were no malicious hits or cheap shots, and for the most part the Refs did a good job calling it both ways and allowing the teams to play. Great weekend series, and just great hockey to watch. RIT and UCONN seem destined to meet up again at some point in the playoffs. Hopefully in the semis or finals.

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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There were no malicious hits or cheap shots, and for the most part the Refs did a good job calling it both ways and allowing the teams to play.

I agree with you on everything except this part. AHA officials for some reason don't appear to pay attention to the NCAA point of emphasis on head contact which is spelled out in great detail in the rule book. Each team got away with things they shouldn't. Head contact is supposed to be a mandatory call with 2:00 or 5:00 determined by the official. It's not supposed to be ignored.

 

[RIT Winters]

Re: >>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

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If history is our guide, a split this past weekend vs UConn was quite acceptable, thank you. They have played RIT tough over the years. Two years ago RIT had the devil's own time beating them at Ritter in the playoffs, and if memory serves they made it to the AHA final four at the BCA last year. They are seemingly a more talented team each year. Conversation this weekend first turned on Corey Conacher's nice year so far in the AHL, and then to some other fine players from Atlantic Hockey over the years. While Conacher got our votes as the best we had seen since RIT made the jump to D-1, other players mentioned were Bear Trapp, Zanette, Brenner, Pinner, Jarmin and Johnson, and some feelas from Air Force. (and I'm sure we missed a few) You get the idea. However, we failed to mention one dominant position player in the league this year; one player who can change a game. While the level of play has improved in Atlantic Hockey, and the games seem much more closely contested across the board, we were unable to come up with a name for the best player in the league today. I realize the season is still young, and we haven't seen all the teams, but what am I missing here? Any suggestions from someone more tuned-in than I?

For RIT that player is unquestionably Shane Madolora.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: >>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

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I agree with you on everything except this part. AHA officials for some reason don't appear to pay attention to the NCAA point of emphasis on head contact which is spelled out in great detail in the rule book. Each team got away with things they shouldn't. Head contact is supposed to be a mandatory call with 2:00 or 5:00 determined by the official. It's not supposed to be ignored.

As of the 2010-2011 season, Contact to the Head is a mandatory 5 + game. The only thing that can additionally be determined by the ref is if a match penalty is warranted (although in the IIHF, it's a mandatory match penalty).

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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As of the 2010-2011 season, Contact to the Head is a mandatory 5 + game. The only thing that can additionally be determined by the ref is if a match penalty is warranted (although in the IIHF, it's a mandatory match penalty).

Contact that targets the head is a 5:00; contact that is incidental is a 2:00 per the point of emphasis article in the rule book:

"This is an important safety issue and the committee is concerned about some violent contact that has occurred in the game and caused injury. To make this rule clearer, any time a player targets the head or neck area of an opponent, it must be a major penalty and a game misconduct penalty at a minimum. This rule is not intended to cover incidental contact or contact with the head that occurs that should be a minor penalty (e.g., unintentional high stick, body check where the contact is initiated at the shoulder or torso, but the follow through makes some contact with the head). Clear direction is being provided here to assist officials, coaches and players with this rule."

 

[Tom Naeger]

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I think in both radio and TV interviews, Wayne Wilson and Brian Hills have been pretty up front about it. You act on here like they don't notice, don't care, and won't address it on the ice or in the media.

Wilson's post-game interviews are part of RIT News' weekly podcast, so if you don't hear them live, you can listen later.

I heard Wanye comments after Friday's game and he said flat out "we are being to cute with the puck" and "We need to shoot the puck". Seems like he being very upfront about it. I think he can't really say more than maybe draw you a picture"...

Powers, your post all seem to have the same theme...

 

[cplinford]

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Heard some scuttlebutt around Thomas Creek tonight that a "RIT women's coach" was involved in some fisticuffs during a men's league game. Apparently came up behind and sucker punched some 23 year old kid and knocked a couple teeth out because he was cherry picking. Was taken out of the rink in handcuffs...

 

[redhotzep96]

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Heard some scuttlebutt around Thomas Creek tonight that a "RIT women's coach" was involved in some fisticuffs during a men's league game. Apparently came up behind and sucker punched some 23 year old kid and knocked a couple teeth out because he was cherry picking. Was taken out of the rink in handcuffs...

Ohhh shiiiiii-

 

[be711]

Re: >>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

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I agree with you on everything except this part. AHA officials for some reason don't appear to pay attention to the NCAA point of emphasis on head contact which is spelled out in great detail in the rule book. Each team got away with things they shouldn't. Head contact is supposed to be a mandatory call with 2:00 or 5:00 determined by the official. It's not supposed to be ignored.

I agree there were definitley some things that should of been called that weren't, but the important thing like you pointed out is that both teams got away with them. For once the refs didn't have an impact on the outcome of the games, i've noticed them wayyyyyyyyyy to much this year outside of this past weekend

 

[Ed Trefzger]

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I agree there were definitley some things that should of been called that weren't, but the important thing like you pointed out is that both teams got away with them.

It's not good for them to get away with them, as injuries can occur. I haven't seen the officials call one-sided games much at all, but I have seen injuries from hits that should be penalties.

The video resolution is not good on this, but check out the high hit at :40 in this video from Saturday:

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[LtPowers]

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Powers, your post all seem to have the same theme...

All of them? Or just the ones you notice?

For RIT that player is unquestionably Shane Madolora.

Mads isn't a position player. =)


Powers &8^]

 

[MattS]

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All of them? Or just the ones you notice?

Just the one's he doesn't like.