>>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

[komey1]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

I still think that Tanev getting a contract is a good thing. RIT will get more exposure, and more players who HAVE pro aspirations will at least look at RIT now that there are 2 players that have received entry level contracts.

Yes, it's not good for RIT right now - that means more players will need to step up. Let's see what happens before we start the gloom and doom.

 

[Tom Naeger]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

I still think that Tanev getting a contract is a good thing. RIT will get more exposure, and more players who HAVE pro aspirations will at least look at RIT now that there are 2 players that have received entry level contracts.

Yes, it's not good for RIT right now - that means more players will need to step up. Let's see what happens before we start the gloom and doom.

True it could be a symptom of something that will be postive in the long run, but the short term it hurts big time. I am not over exaggerating here, this early departure will have conference outlook repercussions. Yet another sign RIT has arrived.

I told Dan Ringwald's father that my only regert is that I could not see Dan and Chris Tanev play 4 years together. They were that good, best defense pairing in my time at RIT. Haltigin and Eckenswiller play will be critical next year. One of them have to Quarterback the Power Play.

 

[Tom Naeger]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

http://www.theprovince.com/business/fp/Canucks+sign+three+defencemen/3094581/story.html

If this article is accurate, Tanev got a 3 year deal worth 2.7 Million WOW!!!

 

[RITShockSquad]

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http://www.theprovince.com/business/fp/Canucks+sign+three+defencemen/3094581/story.html

If this article is accurate, Tanev got a 3 year deal worth 2.7 Million WOW!!!

Wow, indeed. If that's accurate, there must have been some stiff competition for his services.

To put it in perspective, the Devils just gave their 2009 first-round draft pick the same entry-level deal as Tanev's. And their 2008 first-rounder's deal would be $25,000 less a year than Tanev.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

I still think that Tanev getting a contract is a good thing. RIT will get more exposure, and more players who HAVE pro aspirations will at least look at RIT now that there are 2 players that have received entry level contracts.

Yes, it's not good for RIT right now - that means more players will need to step up. Let's see what happens before we start the gloom and doom.

I don't know that that is so much "doom and gloom" as realism setting in. RIT lost their # 1 and only starting goaltender (and East Regional MVP) along with both of their # 1 Defense pairing, which was a true "Shut-down" pair like we've never seen in this conference before. It's bad enough that the AHA has added NU and RMU to the fold, not to mention the fact that due to the Tigers' spectacular success this past season, everyone in the conference will be gunning for them with everything they've got. RIT will still certainly be amongst the pre-season favorites to win the thing, but it certainly isn't going to be easy. I would be shocked if they won the conference as easily as they did last year.

As far as Tanev's signing bringing more attention to RIT from true pro prospects, you must remember that he was a true diamond in the rough find for this program. He wasn't the same elite prospect coming in as he was going out. He progressed incredibly in the last couple years after being overlooked by the big-time programs. Basically, he was a typical RIT type recruit that they will probably have to rely on for the foreseeable future. Fortunately our coaching staff has found enough of those guys to ice a really good team in front of us. But I just don't see any of the blue-chippers suddenly looking at AHA teams as a route to the pros.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

If Chris ends up playing for their AHL team, the Manitoba Moose, we will see him in Rochester a lot because they are in the same division as the Amerks.

Not so fast.
The AHL is adding a team in Oklahoma City and relocating the Albany River Rats to Charlotte (I think), meaning they're due for yet another realignment. Since Rochester has been right on the Eastern edge of the Western Conference for quite some time and there is going to be one more Western city added, they are likely to be considered to be moved into the Eastern Conference where they belong so they can once again play in the same division as teams like Syracuse, Binghamton, Adirondack, and Albaby (Lowell is relocating back to Albany), rather than Abbotsford, Manitoba, Chicago, San Antonio, etc...
I don't think the league has decided anything yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to finally see the Amerks back where they belong.
And besides, in cost-cutting efforts, Manitoba didn't ever really make many trips in here each season anyhow. Usually they would play here for one or two two-game series per season and that was it (except for playoffs, of course). I think the Amerks actually played more games against Binghamton, Syracuse, and Albany than they did against their "divisional rivals" in Western and Central Canada.

 

[LtPowers]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

RIT will still certainly be amongst the pre-season favorites to win the thing, but it certainly isn't going to be easy. I would be shocked if they won the conference as easily as they did last year.

Of course, that's exactly what we thought before last season, too. =)


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[LtPowers]

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I don't think the league has decided anything yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to finally see the Amerks back where they belong.

That would be great, but I wouldn't hold my breath. The Eastern Conference is at 15 teams already, and the addition of Oklahoma City will bring the Western Conference to 15 teams. So the only reason to move Rochester is if they want each conference to have an even number of teams (then, WC divisions would have 7 teams each and the EC divisions would each have 8 teams) instead of having the same number of teams in each conference.

It is ridiculous to have Rochester in the Western Conference, but that's the way the numbers work out until some other EC team folds.


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[TigerFan86-87]

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That would be great, but I wouldn't hold my breath. The Eastern Conference is at 15 teams already, and the addition of Oklahoma City will bring the Western Conference to 15 teams. So the only reason to move Rochester is if they want each conference to have an even number of teams (then, WC divisions would have 7 teams each and the EC divisions would each have 8 teams) instead of having the same number of teams in each conference.

It is ridiculous to have Rochester in the Western Conference, but that's the way the numbers work out until some other EC team folds.


Powers &8^]

Rumor has it (and believe me, it is really just a rumor), that Charlotte may be headed West. I know that makes about as much sense as Rochester being West, but if you look at the AHL footprint, Charlotte doesn't fit in regardless of which conference they get slotted in (in the words of the NCAA... a flight is a flight). Aside from Norfolk, they have no neighbors. I'm guessing they may align with 6 divisions like the NHL has now that they finally have the same number of teams as the big league does. There is a potential alignment scenario given the 6 5-team divisions within which Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Adirondack, and Binghamton could re-form the old Empire Division. I'm not holding my breath, but I am hopeful nonetheless.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Of course, that's exactly what we thought before last season, too. =)


Powers &8^]

With all due respect... Really?? RIT was not the defending regular season and tournament champions a year ago. And their regular season championship was shared, so certainly not easy by any stretch. In 08-09, they were nowhere near the dominance they displayed in 09-10, winning the championship by 10 points and the championship game 6-1. And I don't know about everyone else on here (I wasn't surfing this board much a year ago), but I thought going from Menard / DeMike to DeMike alone in net was going to benefit this team as Jared had shown the ability to dominate games more than his predecessor. No, we certainly didn't know what we had in Tanev prior to the season, but we did have Ringwald and a good share of the scoring returning. From my perspective, all four AHA teams at RIT should arguably have been favorites to win both championships in the conference, based on the ability they showed (the execution in certain games, especially at BCA is a different story). As far as the coming season (10-11), I don't think that is necessarily the case, at least without the benefit of hindsight.

 

[bjdrit]

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And I don't know about everyone else on here (I wasn't surfing this board much a year ago), but I thought going from Menard / DeMike to DeMike alone in net was going to benefit this team as Jared had shown the ability to dominate games more than his predecessor.

I guess I'll admit to being wrong. I didn't think goaltending would be a sure strength for RIT coming into the season, and through the non-conference schedule that fear seemed to be justified. RIT played well in those non-conference games, but they weren't getting the "big save" to get them over the hump, and the goal to end 2008/2009 wasn't exactly stellar.

He's definitely a goalie that improved with each season. Coming in, I wouldn't have guessed he would have done as well as he did. But, I'm thrilled to have been wrong, as the coaching staff always talked about how determined he was, and he seems like a great kid. Congrats to him, and you've got to think he'll find a pro role somewhere, which will enable him to achieve his goal.

 

[cplinford]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

Hard to say no to 2.7 mil. I just glanced over the article is it a one way or 2 way deal? I assume 2 way

 

[RITProf]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

http://www.theprovince.com/business/fp/Canucks+sign+three+defencemen/3094581/story.html

If this article is accurate, Tanev got a 3 year deal worth 2.7 Million WOW!!!

Here are some details

http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=1775

$67.5K at the AHL level, $900K at NHL and $90K signing bonus each year (??? don't know if he gets that regardless of level). Still, not bad at all and big motivation to move up.

A little note, I sate behind scouts from the Calgary Flames (IIRC) in Detroit and they had highlighted about 14 guys on the Wisc. roster to watch closely and only one on RIT's ... Tanev.

Regardless, good luck to Chris.

 

[cplinford]

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Here are some details

http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=1775

$67.5K at the AHL level, $900K at NHL and $90K signing bonus each year (??? don't know if he gets that regardless of level). Still, not bad at all and big motivation to move up.

A little note, I sate behind scouts from the Calgary Flames (IIRC) in Detroit and they had highlighted about 14 guys on the Wisc. roster to watch closely and only one on RIT's ... Tanev.

Regardless, good luck to Chris.

Answers my question. Really surprised they gave him almost the max for a rookie...

 

[komey1]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

I thought goaltending would be solid, but I don't think anyone expected DeMike to be a great as he turned out to be.

Losing Tanev hurts, but that means the rest of the defensemen will need to step it up. Getting Eckenswiller back helps, and Spivak got some good experiance. Hopefully, the recruits here will be able to come in and contribute right away.

For now, it seems RIT may need to be carried by the offense early in the season before everything settles.

 

[LtPowers]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

With all due respect... Really?? RIT was not the defending regular season and tournament champions a year ago.

No, but RIT was "amongst the pre-season favorites" and we all thought "it certainly [wasn't] going to be easy" to win the league. Weren't you "shocked [that] they won the conference [so] easily"?


Powers &8^]

 

[cplinford]

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I thought goaltending would be solid, but I don't think anyone expected DeMike to be a great as he turned out to be.

Losing Tanev hurts, but that means the rest of the defensemen will need to step it up. Getting Eckenswiller back helps, and Spivak got some good experiance. Hopefully, the recruits here will be able to come in and contribute right away.

For now, it seems RIT may need to be carried by the offense early in the season before everything settles.

Haltigan did have 11 goals or something. I think Eckenswiller would have been right there as well if he didn't get hurt. Favot will be a senior and Burt will be a junior so I expect some real solid numbers out of both of them right out of the gate

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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Re: >>>>RIT 2010 Offseason Thread-"You have to be a genius to go to RIT"

No, but RIT was "amongst the pre-season favorites" and we all thought "it certainly [wasn't] going to be easy" to win the league. Weren't you "shocked [that] they won the conference [so] easily"?


Powers &8^]

I must clarify... My point was that RIT was # 1 "easily" in 09-10 and is not expected to be # 1 so easily in 10-11. In 08-09, they were not # 1, so had no "easy" to compare to going into 09-10. That is all.

 

[komey1]

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Haltigan did have 11 goals or something. I think Eckenswiller would have been right there as well if he didn't get hurt. Favot will be a senior and Burt will be a junior so I expect some real solid numbers out of both of them right out of the gate

Haltigan will certainly help offensively, and hopefully will improve on his +7 rating. Ecks was not much of a threat offensively with only 1 career goal. Spivak is even less of one, with no points last year, in spite of steady defense. I think Seracino will be a possible factor on offense to improve. on his 2-10-12 performance. Based on the Heisenberg site, RIT does have 3 6 foot+ defensemen coming in. That does sound promisising, so we shall see.

 

[Tom Naeger]

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Of course, that's exactly what we thought before last season, too. =)

Powers &8^]

I didn’t think that last year. I was the one saying this team was going to be fine, what I was wrong about was I didn’t think they would go to the frozen four and I was also a little surprise to see them run away with the Atlantic Title with double digit points and a spanking in the final. I thought going in this past year the team was very solid. The questions were where was goal scoring going to come from besides Burt and Brennar? And could DeMike handle the load in nets?

Let me be clear, I am not making call to hit the panic button. I think there is still enough talent on this team to repeat in the Atlantic, but with Niagara joining the task just got tougher. Especially in another NCAA run Tanev would have been big.

This is an interesting move by the Canucks. Tanev did have a very good year and has all the tools an NHL Defenseman would need. However one would think they have over paid for Tanev even if the reported number is high. They did nothing short of pounced on him after being an unknown for years and then playing one year of college hockey. The article that I got a pay figure out of called him a “free second round draft pick”. That is an ironic statement considering the amount they reportable paid him. However, there are a number of players like Chris who played two years of juniors and are undrafted and playing at places like RIT. Could NHL teams find this as a good bargain hunting ground?