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Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
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sterlippo1
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Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
you're playing close to the vest
if the three hot shot freshmen are as advertised and contribute early, i think they will be a lot higher than that as the season progresses
you're playing close to the vest
if the three hot shot freshmen are as advertised and contribute early, i think they will be a lot higher than that as the season progressesFederal League
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FlagDUDE08
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redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
More to that is the fact that they have a legit coaching staff that rivals one of the 10 best in the country.
What do you consider Fine? Relying on out scoing the other teams? Goaltending wins in the post season and they found that out the hard way. Until they get a legit top flight goaltender they won't take the next step. Out scoring teams will get you to the tourny but not past the first round like they found out the last two years.
I'm guessing that one reason has to do with our performance against last year's tournament teams (4-1-2). Add to that that aside from Paul Kerins who graduated (who really came out of his shell last year), all of the big names (Polacek, D'Amigo, Pirri, York (ask Michigan who he is) ) are coming back, and some pretty good freshman and transfer defensemen, not to mention a few key players here and there.
More to that is the fact that they have a legit coaching staff that rivals one of the 10 best in the country.
What do you consider Fine? Relying on out scoing the other teams? Goaltending wins in the post season and they found that out the hard way. Until they get a legit top flight goaltender they won't take the next step. Out scoring teams will get you to the tourny but not past the first round like they found out the last two years.
Federal League
I like hockey.
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
Last I checked, this thread was about the top 16- the teams getting to the tournament. Where did I say Yale was gonna get to the Frozen Four (which would be the next step for them)?
PS- I'd say winning the conference and getting to a regional final qualifies as "fine."
Last I checked, this thread was about the top 16- the teams getting to the tournament. Where did I say Yale was gonna get to the Frozen Four (which would be the next step for them)?
PS- I'd say winning the conference and getting to a regional final qualifies as "fine."
HoosierBBall_GopherHockey
New member
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
They beat North Dakota last year in the first round, if you're referring to Yale.
They beat North Dakota last year in the first round, if you're referring to Yale.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
You are absolutely 100% correct about this one. Take a look at the left side of my posts. We are very proud of him and his staff, despite what some of the wackos on here and in other RPI forums might say.
We tried to explain that to them with our only shutout of the season and a convincing Black Friday win that no one expected from us... maybe next year.
You are absolutely 100% correct about this one. Take a look at the left side of my posts. We are very proud of him and his staff, despite what some of the wackos on here and in other RPI forums might say.
We tried to explain that to them with our only shutout of the season and a convincing Black Friday win that no one expected from us... maybe next year.
umassfan49
New member
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
A team without a true goaltender that beat an extremely shaky one. I know Eidsness is a Sabres draft pick and was 2nd team all WCHA but watching him over the last two years I find him extremely beatable and sometimes not all there, but when he plays at the top of his game he can be very good. I remember several times in the Yale game he seemed to almost slide away from the puck and he seemed quite uninterested.
A team without a true goaltender that beat an extremely shaky one. I know Eidsness is a Sabres draft pick and was 2nd team all WCHA but watching him over the last two years I find him extremely beatable and sometimes not all there, but when he plays at the top of his game he can be very good. I remember several times in the Yale game he seemed to almost slide away from the puck and he seemed quite uninterested.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
Your right, forgot about their first round matchup.
Your right, forgot about their first round matchup.
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
You don't follow the WCHA do you.Lucky Minnesota gets home ice for the WCHA playoffs.The Sioux and SCSU are the teams to beat.
Federal League
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Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
I follow it from a distance. Obviously I don't know as much about the WCHA as people who follow the teams. I live in Boston. I'm lucky if I get to see one or two WCHA teams per season. Also, I never said UND and SCSU weren't the teams to beat. Clearly they are. The debate was over the 5th and 6th spots, not the 1st and 2nd spots. Plus, when it comes to predictions, does it even really matter if you're an expert or not? No one ever gets all their predictions right.
I follow it from a distance. Obviously I don't know as much about the WCHA as people who follow the teams. I live in Boston. I'm lucky if I get to see one or two WCHA teams per season. Also, I never said UND and SCSU weren't the teams to beat. Clearly they are. The debate was over the 5th and 6th spots, not the 1st and 2nd spots. Plus, when it comes to predictions, does it even really matter if you're an expert or not? No one ever gets all their predictions right.
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
I gotchya.Now going back and reading your original post more carefully I see you had them in alphabetical order.Sorry about that. Oh and I suck at preseason predictions that is why I try not to make them anymore.
I gotchya.Now going back and reading your original post more carefully I see you had them in alphabetical order.Sorry about that. Oh and I suck at preseason predictions that is why I try not to make them anymore.
Federal League
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Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
You're a smart one, eh?
No one said they would.
You're a smart one, eh?
No one said they would.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
Is this because RIT happened to win two games in a weekend in March? Honestly, I don't foresee them getting lucky a second time, similar to Bemidji this past year. Get a little better in the NC standings (0-6, 1-11 over the past 2 years), and we'll talk.
Is this because RIT happened to win two games in a weekend in March? Honestly, I don't foresee them getting lucky a second time, similar to Bemidji this past year. Get a little better in the NC standings (0-6, 1-11 over the past 2 years), and we'll talk.
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
RIT has their own holes to fill, and while it would be nice to get pre-season recognition for making the Frozen Four, I don't expect it, or they would be #20 at best. Yes, the non-conference record in the regular season is not pretty, but many of them have been close games, and last year, a couple could have gone the other way.
However, I don't like that it was insinuated that RIT got "lucky" in March. They outworked Denver and UNH and deserved those wins. The only "luck" in my opinion was that they were sent to Albany - close enough for RIT fans to make the trek there and give the team extra energy.
RIT has their own holes to fill, and while it would be nice to get pre-season recognition for making the Frozen Four, I don't expect it, or they would be #20 at best. Yes, the non-conference record in the regular season is not pretty, but many of them have been close games, and last year, a couple could have gone the other way.
However, I don't like that it was insinuated that RIT got "lucky" in March. They outworked Denver and UNH and deserved those wins. The only "luck" in my opinion was that they were sent to Albany - close enough for RIT fans to make the trek there and give the team extra energy.
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
My thoughts are you have to start somewhere.
I'm sure that DU, Wisconsin (nothing against them) and others listed weren't always on everybody's mind when it came to college hockey a long time ago.
If a coach, any coach, and any college can put a system into place that works well, then that team through hard work and some luck can make it through the season and beyond. It's the system behind the players that makes teams like BC, Wisconson consistant legitimate contenders for championships each year.
RIT, yes I'm a fan, played pretty a good game against DU and ripped UNH (understatement there) when everybody was saying (Melrose for one) that they didn't have a chance. Wisconsin then took it too them and I agree that RIT was overmatched in that game. But you take loses like that back with you and reveiw the tape and see where you went wrong and where the other team went right. Skilled players not withstanding, it can be done.
Will RIT make it back to the regional or FF this year? That's anybody's guess just as tyring to guess how any of the teams will do this year or where they should be ranked.
I'm just saying, that for how they played during the season, AHA tourney and Albany, they should be given some credit for getting where they did.
I would actually put them ahead of UNH seeing the mess that UNH is in and I live just 15 miles from the Whit.
I've got a date in October at the Blue Cross arena and am hoping RIT picks up where they left off this winter (FF not withstanding) and pulls off some upsets in their OOC games to start the season off right. Then maybe, just maybe, I'll be seeing RIT, Rochester Tech or Rochester Technical Institue or some variation up on the list.
My thoughts are you have to start somewhere.
I'm sure that DU, Wisconsin (nothing against them) and others listed weren't always on everybody's mind when it came to college hockey a long time ago.
If a coach, any coach, and any college can put a system into place that works well, then that team through hard work and some luck can make it through the season and beyond. It's the system behind the players that makes teams like BC, Wisconson consistant legitimate contenders for championships each year.
RIT, yes I'm a fan, played pretty a good game against DU and ripped UNH (understatement there) when everybody was saying (Melrose for one) that they didn't have a chance. Wisconsin then took it too them and I agree that RIT was overmatched in that game. But you take loses like that back with you and reveiw the tape and see where you went wrong and where the other team went right. Skilled players not withstanding, it can be done.
Will RIT make it back to the regional or FF this year? That's anybody's guess just as tyring to guess how any of the teams will do this year or where they should be ranked.
I'm just saying, that for how they played during the season, AHA tourney and Albany, they should be given some credit for getting where they did.
I would actually put them ahead of UNH seeing the mess that UNH is in and I live just 15 miles from the Whit.
I've got a date in October at the Blue Cross arena and am hoping RIT picks up where they left off this winter (FF not withstanding) and pulls off some upsets in their OOC games to start the season off right. Then maybe, just maybe, I'll be seeing RIT, Rochester Tech or Rochester Technical Institue or some variation up on the list.
moose97
New member
Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011
Just to refresh - BSU wasn't ranked pre-season after their FF in 2009, but entered a week later and never left the rankings the rest of the season. Of course, they did happen to beat then #1 Miami and swept then #4 Minn-Duluth on the way to an at-large NCAA birth. No, they didn't beat Michigan, but then again, the trend lately has been for higher seeded teams to lose to lower seeds, so the BSU loss to lowley #3 seed UMich shouldn't have been a surprise 
.
Just to refresh - BSU wasn't ranked pre-season after their FF in 2009, but entered a week later and never left the rankings the rest of the season. Of course, they did happen to beat then #1 Miami and swept then #4 Minn-Duluth on the way to an at-large NCAA birth. No, they didn't beat Michigan, but then again, the trend lately has been for higher seeded teams to lose to lower seeds, so the BSU loss to lowley #3 seed UMich shouldn't have been a surprise
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