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POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

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joecct said:
1. Local money, not federal.
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So how do expect low income areas to educate their kids effectively with little funding? Hire effective teachers if they can't pay them a decent salary? Have updated textbooks? Classroom equipment?

Oh I forgot. You're a conservative so who cares about the poors right?
 
Jimjamesak said:
So how do expect low income areas to educate their kids effectively with little funding? Hire effective teachers if they can't pay them a decent salary? Have updated textbooks? Classroom equipment?

Oh I forgot. You're a conservative so who cares about the poors right?
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No. There is also the State. But I want the feds out of the eddication bizness.

Most states wrestle with the funding formulas trying to equalize resources. The parents in the well off areas scream that they are not getting their "share". Well tough. Raise local taxes. Oops! They don't like to pay more taxes (who does?).

But - money to the schools will not solve all your problems. How many low performing schools become the dumping ground for bad teachers and administrators? Second - the neighborhood. Poverty is a boat anchor. We need jobs (not necessarily white collar but blue collar jobs) in the private sector to get more money into the neighborhoods.

Tough assignments. Maybe tD can ignite a spark.
 
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joecct said:
No. There is also the State. But I want the feds out of the eddication bizness.
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Not saying this is you, but there are tons of conservatives who if it ever did get kicked down to the state would then say "not the state, but local," and on down to the parish collection plate and we're back where we started.

In the main business-savvy hate the federal level only because it is more expensive to bribe.
 
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I will say this to joe directly that I think he's imagining living in an ideal world, not the one we're actually in. Yes, it would be fitting and proper if states and locals took on the burden of funding their schools. The problem is twofold. First you would have people (Brownback, etc) who free of such things as having to fund poor minority schools similarly to wealthy white ones would squander their funds on tax cuts for the rich. Second, even in places not inclined to do that we always hear education is the way out of poverty but if your state is mired in poverty for eons (KY, WVA, etc) they will never have the resources to properly support their education system, thus keeping up a viscous cycle.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
But now you're asking families to transport kids across relatively large distances just to participate in a program, giving up valuable time that could be used in better ways.
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Cause rural and suburban schools don't have to transport kids across relatively large distances.
 
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So trump nominated Sonny Perdue for secretary of agriculture. $5 says it was because his name sounds like he runs Perdue Farms.
 
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Conservatives have no anecdotal evidence moneybis being wasted on a whole scale basis anymore than it is in the corporate realm. The only thing they care about is their tax rate and nothing else. Nothing else.

Do people in MS, FL and LA not understand if the GOP has it their way future students in their states are screwed? Yeah that's great for the rest of us too knowing the tax weight on our shoulders just got higher because no one will be employable in their vast wasteland.
 
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St. Clown said:
And I don't want to make it look like I'm dumping on teachers. That's not my purpose here. We have issues within the system and home life for many (most?) of our failing students, and teachers are often caught in the middle, pointed as the most visible actors in whole process.

Thinking about that, I have two friends who are public school teachers. One teaches at a magnet school, a science-based school of one discipline or another. The other is a kindergarten teacher at a standard elementary school, and she's more fed up with everything involving education than anyone else I've ever known. She decided to take on the roll of the union contact for her school (what's that official title, does anybody here know?). She's frustrated with the union aspects of the job, largely because she thinks too many of her fellows expect too many things from their union in terms of handling specific issues, or exactly what it is the union handles.
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I assume you mean the steward?
 
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joecct said:
1. Local money, not federal.
2. Any money needs to go to the classroom, not to the Suoerintendent's office and staff.
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Also not to the teachers' union. That's where most of the raises go.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
But now you're asking families to transport kids across relatively large distances just to participate in a program, giving up valuable time that could be used in better ways.
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Sometimes you have to make the time investment for something good. I did it for nearly five years.
 
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You know, this past campaign never settled the issue of one space or two after a period.
 
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joecct said:
You know, this past campaign never settled the issue of one space or two after a period.
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TWO SPACES! The Oxford Comma should always be used, too! Dagnabbit!
 
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aparch said:
In the "of course this exists" department:
https://mobile.twitter.com/trump_regrets?lang=en

A Twitter feed of retweets of Trump supporters regretting voting for him.

:D It's pretty epic reading these folk finally realizing what they did.
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I am bad at Twitter. Is the "Following" number a good indicator of the number of retweeted posters? If so, then... only 1500? In 2 months that's just about 25 a day. Of course, it may be a chore in itself to find / ID / check each for uniqueness, although hopefully that is all automated.

I was kinda hoping for more retweets than people at the Inauguration. Which... guesses, everyone? I was with the 1.8 M for Obama in 2009 and I'm guessing 600k for Trump and then 300k for the Women's March in DC the next day (total of all the capitol marches around the country will be more like 1M).
 
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