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Penn State scandal and its effect on the rising hockey program

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komey1 said:
Why does the grad student who reported the incident to Paterno still have a job? If the trustees are firing JoePa for not following up, they should have fired McCreery as well for the exact same thing.
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I still don't know why the first hand witnesses did not call the police directly in each case. Around here, people called the police when a nice neighbor tried to give a little boy a ride home in the rain.
 
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This whole **** fest is about to blow up even more - I just talked with a guy I went to the academy with - he is a cop in Pittsburgh and this is just the very tip of the iceberg - I thought it was odd that the FBI is involved in the investigation - and the story and this other info now makes sense
 
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Happy said:
Sandusky had been previously reported to the police, and already investigated. As such, when Joe Pa reported him to his superiors, it really isn't up to him to ask about the investigation. At my company, once something is reported, (say drugs, alcohol, sleeping) we get no further information until something official happens, it is not up to the reporting party top make sure the investigation is perfect. That said, I really have no problem with the death penalty for Sandusky.
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This is true except for the fact that the decision to fire Sandusky in 99 and the decision to ban him from bringing kids to campus in 02 both involved paterno and one can easily infer that these measures were seen as the schools official and only response.
 
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The bigger issue will be what happens if the new news is true with the donors and the kids....
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Pretty much irrelevant. Every student at that University is going to be affected by this. The worst of it will be the football players. I think Saturday is Senior Day for them. Imagine having this memory for the rest of your life.
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I'm having trouble connecting how what you said relates to what I wrote.

What I meant was that in ten years, when psu hockey is on par with uconn instead of Minnesota and Wisconsin, it won't be because of this scandal. It will be due to the fact that college hockey is not well suited for new entrants like football or basketball are.
 
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GopherBigGuy911 said:
This whole **** fest is about to blow up even more - I just talked with a guy I went to the academy with - he is a cop in Pittsburgh and this is just the very tip of the iceberg - I thought it was odd that the FBI is involved in the investigation - and the story and this other info now makes sense
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Wire fraud?
 
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“@ToddMilewski: Word is that Terry Pegula has affirmed his commitment to the new Penn State hockey arena and programs. May hear from him via a statement.”
 
firstpusk said:
Wire fraud?
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Jerry Sandusky Rumored to Have Been 'Pimping Out Young Boys to Rich Donors,' Says Mark Madden - College Football - NESN.com
http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-rumored-to-have-been-pimping-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors-says-mark-madden.html no much much much worse than wire fraud - human trafficking for the promotion of prostitution
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The bottom line is the athletic dept. most responsible for destroying college hockey as we know it is now imploding upon itself. What does that say?
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I don't really understand the logic in comments like this. It certainly isn't Penn State's fault how some programs reacted. If a donor comes along and offers that much money, I think pretty much any school would go for it.

Barring Terry Pegula taking his money off the table, this isn't going to do anything to their hockey efforts.
 
Hammy said:
I don't really understand the logic in comments like this. It certainly isn't Penn State's fault how some programs reacted. If a donor comes along and offers that much money, I think pretty much any school would go for it.

Barring Terry Pegula taking his money off the table, this isn't going to do anything to their hockey efforts.
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100% agree.
 
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Hammy said:
I don't really understand the logic in comments like this. It certainly isn't Penn State's fault how some programs reacted. If a donor comes along and offers that much money, I think pretty much any school would go for it.

Barring Terry Pegula taking his money off the table, this isn't going to do anything to their hockey efforts.
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Read it again. I worded it very carefully. And, I've never said that the end result wasn't exactly what was going to happen.
 
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Hammy said:
I don't really understand the logic in comments like this. It certainly isn't Penn State's fault how some programs reacted. If a donor comes along and offers that much money, I think pretty much any school would go for it.

Barring Terry Pegula taking his money off the table, this isn't going to do anything to their hockey efforts.
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Though, that would raise an interesting point... what would happen to all the leagues and the acrimony if say it does get worse and the money is walked back? Needless to say, a lot of burned bridges in college hockey.
 
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Lets get one thing straight here. Paterno did not "report this to the Penn State Police." He called the Athletic Director [boss] over to his house. An AD, who BTW, happened to play football at Penn State under Paterno.

Later that month, the AD calls a meeting with the grad assistant [who also played football at Penn State under Paterno] and the department head of Business & Finance, who oversees Penn State's Police Department [The VP for B&F has two degrees from Penn State in Engineering]. No police training, no law or law enforcement training, nothing in their background to handle a decision like this.

So you have three Penn State alums who came to the conclusion that Sandusky's punishment for rape of a 10 year-old is taking his locker room keys away.
 
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I just think saying they are responsible is ridiculous. They aren't responsible for the actions of others.
 
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Patman said:

from what I saw on Fark... this could get cataclysmically worse... not so much for JoePa but for the entire situation.
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If the rumors are true, we're not talking about a pedophile anymore...Seriously, this could seriously be construed as 2 criminal organizations, PSU and the Second Mile working a child prostitution ring. We're talking federal criminal organization laws here, on the same level as the mob. That is how serious this could get, and that could ruin not only the entire PSU athletic department, but leave the entire university in shambles. If it is found out that the athletic department was being funded in part by donations given through a child prostitution ring, it is not even a reach to think that the entire athletic department is shut down. Completely shut down.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
If the rumors are true, we're not talking about a pedophile anymore...Seriously, this could seriously be construed as 2 criminal organizations, PSU and the Second Mile working a child prostitution ring. We're talking federal criminal organization laws here, on the same level as the mob. That is how serious this could get, and that could ruin not only the entire PSU athletic department, but leave the entire university in shambles. If it is found out that the athletic department was being funded in part by donations given through a child prostitution ring, it is not even a reach to think that the entire athletic department is shut down. Completely shut down.
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That is EXACTLY why the FBI is involved.....
 
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Hammy said:
I just think saying they are responsible is ridiculous. They aren't responsible for the actions of others.
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Depends on if you believe the CCHA and WCHA could survive without Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. I don't, and it appears I was right. I think you could easily argue (and get no complaints from me) that college hockey as it existed was a house of cards anyway. The entire structure of the two major western conferences was contingent on those (4) schools staying where they were. Once Penn State rightfully demanded that that no longer be the case the house fell, and it was entirely forseeable.
 
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komey1 said:
Why does the grad student who reported the incident to Paterno still have a job? If the trustees are firing JoePa for not following up, they should have fired McCreery as well for the exact same thing.
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Supposedly, he is not in trouble with the law because he did what he was "legally required to do". Whatever.
What I want to know is how someone witnesses something like that and doesn't try and stop it. Unreal
 
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I wounder what the penalty would be if your athletic department was funded on an underage prostitution ring.... :rolleyes:
 
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