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Penn State scandal and its effect on the rising hockey program

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Hockeybuckeye said:
Personally I think they threw Paterno under the buss and totally ignored all the good he's done which is where the real crime is. He followed procedure over an ALLEGATION, he was never a witness to a crime. I have no respect for Penn State's trustees and will never speak well of Penn State again. They're entry into the Big Ten destroyed two conferences so I hope their hockey program fails miserably.
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This doesn't need to turn into a referendum on Paterno, but he's hardly the only one "being thrown under the bus". The President, VP of Finance and AD are all gone with him. The Board of Trustees did what the public (outside of State College) called for. I don't know how you can simply ignore what Joe Paterno DIDN'T do to help prevent a monster like Sandusky run loose.

owslachief said:
Any negative impact on the ability to recruit HOCKEY players and STUDENT athletes to the new program has just been headed off by the trustee board's decision tonight. In fact, those who would have been on that fence between nodding interest in spending money on football tickets for the "legend" factor and spending a lot less money on an exciting new venture will now solidly get behind the hockey program.
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Disagree. Yes, PSU is going for a fresh start, but that still doesn't mean it's not in the minds of parents everywhere. This will not soon be forgotten.
 
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J.D. said:
This doesn't need to turn into a referendum on Paterno, but he's hardly the only one "being thrown under the bus". The President, VP of Finance and AD are all gone with him. The Board of Trustees did what the public (outside of State College) called for. I don't know how you can simply ignore what Joe Paterno DIDN'T do to help prevent a monster like Sandusky run loose.


Disagree. Yes, PSU is going for a fresh start, but that still doesn't mean it's not in the minds of parents everywhere. This will not soon be forgotten.
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Exactly..... More of this will come out and Paterno will likely (imo) when this is all said and done spend some time in jail. If not he'll spend his retirement in court rooms, with many others..
 
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There will also undoubtedly be lots of "pressure" on their athletic department revenues, in everything from merchandise sales to tickets to alumni donations. Fortunately for them, they still have lots of BTN cash rolling in, so they won't be poor by any stretch of the imagination - but they won't be able to provide nearly as nice of an environment for their athletes (facilities, travel arrangements, etc) or elevate their coach's salaries as much as they would have been able to without this scandal.
 
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The scandal won't have one iota of effect on the emerging program, IMO... Relative to big-time NCAA football, college hockey is on another planet.
 
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I think we are all asking ourselves the same question today. .... why did this have to be at Penn State? Why not DU instead?
 
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Wouldn't it just be easy to call them Pedo State University? Why worry about complex chants when you can get straight to the point.
uaafanblog said:
I think we are all asking ourselves the same question today. .... why did this have to be at Penn State? Why not DU instead?
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This.
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
Personally I think they threw Paterno under the buss and totally ignored all the good he's done which is where the real crime is. He followed procedure over an ALLEGATION, he was never a witness to a crime. I have no respect for Penn State's trustees and will never speak well of Penn State again. They're entry into the Big Ten destroyed two conferences so I hope their hockey program fails miserably.
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So are you joining up with the clueless, obtuse minority that decided to march on campus last night?

Paterno made his own bed, IMO. Whether he ignored, enabled or knowingly allowed Sandusky to rape young boys has to be determined, but at a minimum he even admitted that he should have done more to look into that alleged activity.

Yes, he was a great icon, but even icons are not infallible. This isn't a minor mistake, but a grave one. He should be lauded for his contributions, but equally subject to criticism and scorn for his ignorance of this situation. With great power comes great responsibility and as far as I am concerned, he dropped the ball. What is truly sad is his self absorbed, stubborn actions only inflamed some of the students to carry on like clueless robots last night. I understand that Paterno defined what many believe Penn State is... but as another icon, Bo Schembechler once said, no man is bigger than the team, the program, the university. All will carry on. He should have retired many years ago with honor and dignity and would have avoided this sad ending to his career.
 
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uaafanblog said:
I think we are all asking ourselves the same question today. .... why did this have to be at Penn State? Why not DU instead?
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DU doesn't have a football team, but I hear all the pansies on the ski team do shower together.
 
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mariucci said:
Exactly..... More of this will come out and Paterno will likely (imo) when this is all said and done spend some time in jail. If not he'll spend his retirement in court rooms, with many others..
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It's unlikely Paterno will spend any time in jail. We probably all would agree that morally, he fell far short of what he should have done. Legally he followed the letter of the law exactly. He reported what he had been told. All educators in all states, and that is what his position as a coach would be classified as, are legally required to report allegations of abuse, physical or otherwise. Failure to do so is a misdemeanor, usually accompanied by a fine and the potential for incarceration on a local level. In 30 years of working in the child welfare field, I saw people fined for failure to report, I never saw anyone do jail time. As for court, no doubt you are correct, he will see a lot of that, but even that might not be what you expect. He was only told something, and depending on the framing of the questions in court, his responses could come perilously close to hearsay, which in this case, will likely not rise to meet the exceptions to the hearsay rules. So, while good taste and sensibility occasionally take a hike on this board, can we wind this thread up. Tasteless can sometimes be funny. In this case, it is not.
 
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It will have ZERO affect on the hockey program.

Penn State chose a proven WINNER in Guy G.

He will build a contender.
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
Personally I think they threw Paterno under the buss and totally ignored all the good he's done which is where the real crime is. He followed procedure over an ALLEGATION, he was never a witness to a crime. I have no respect for Penn State's trustees and will never speak well of Penn State again. They're entry into the Big Ten destroyed two conferences so I hope their hockey program fails miserably.
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what good has he done that is so much greater than allegations of a crime?

He won some game of a sport/entertainment? He helped get a very small percentage of a student body through school? He's just a football coach. Why does that get him elevated to the point that if he does not follow up on a crime that it's ok? How is being a football coach that great? Big picture here- football, just like hockey, is just entertainement. It should not be given a pass when crimes are comitted.

That ignores the image that PSU and Paterno has put together over the decades. Add that in, and the whole lack of action from a crime becomes worse. More worse when the degree of crime is then factored in.

It's just a game. Fun, sure. Very entertaining, absolutely. but at the end of the day, it's <1% of the students, and they are playing a game that is just entertainment to the viewers.
 
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Big Papa said:
It will have ZERO affect on the hockey program.

Penn State chose a proven WINNER in Guy G.

He will build a contender.
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I disagree. This university is tainted for a long time to come. Sad, but true.
 
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Third Family Member said:
So, while good taste and sensibility occasionally take a hike on this board, can we wind this thread up. Tasteless can sometimes be funny. In this case, it is not.
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Seriously? Why would we "wind this thread up"? Given what has happened at PSU, disucussing whether or not the fallout will have an effect on the hockey program is definitely a valid discussion.
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
Personally I think they threw Paterno under the buss and totally ignored all the good he's done which is where the real crime is. He followed procedure over an ALLEGATION, he was never a witness to a crime. I have no respect for Penn State's trustees and will never speak well of Penn State again. They're entry into the Big Ten destroyed two conferences so I hope their hockey program fails miserably.
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I hope you're kidding. This situation has been going on for YEARS,and it's not like it was an isolated incident. It's also not like it was a petty crime,either. Jopa just DOESN'T GET IT. If he did,he should have resigned immediately. We're talking about a game here,a game versus the lives of God knows how many boys. Children. I don't know about you,but if I were Jopa,and one of my coaches was alleged to be a pedophile,I would have set that coach down for a long Q&A,and I would have let that coach know he was suspected of a serious,serious crime.

It's not just Paterno. It's apparent that local law enforcement,other school officials,etc. have turned a blind eye to this since at least 2002,and probably long before that,but that is no excuse. If Paterno did in fact ignore this,he SHOULD be thrown under the bus.Literally.

Excuse my rant,but for a time I had opened my home to homeless kids who fell through the cracks of the foster care system,and many of these unfortunates had a long history of sexual abuse. Until you can see the devastation that this can cause to a child first hand,you have no idea how heinous an act pedophilia is,and how it is ALL our responsability to address the issue as soon as possible,as thoroughly as possible.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
I disagree. This university is tainted for a long time to come. Sad, but true.
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Yep. This will make it difficult for this school to recruit and get donations. They are being federally in Investigated by the Department of Education... This will get more ugly for the school.
 
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