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Penn State scandal and its effect on the rising hockey program

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J.D. said:
Only a couple years? That's certainly where we disagree, which is fine. I just think more information is gonna come out and this is gonna drag on. I think it's gonna be in the minds of parents/people all over for more than a couple years.

Doesn't it sound like the NCAA is staying out of this all together and letting the authorities handle it? I'm not gonna begin to pretend to know what the NCAAs jurisdiction is on matters like this, but it seems to fit the "lack of institutional control" label even though it doesn't involve recruiting.
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I would guess that the NCAA would wait until the dust settles, see what happens legally, then decide what kind of actions, if any, they want to make. With criminal investigations going on and everything else that is going on in this case, and what is rumored, I'm guessing the NCAA doesn't want to jump in at this point.
 
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How exactly does this scandal effect a Division 1 varsity hockey program that doesn't even exist yet? They have no where to go but up on the other hand the football program......
 
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4four4 said:
How exactly does this scandal effect a Division 1 varsity hockey program that doesn't even exist yet? They have no where to go but up on the other hand the football program......
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I'm guessing you're throwing this question out there having not read any of the posts?
 
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Hammy said:
Mike McQueary was a coward. He was a 28 year old man that had a chance to stop a child rapist in his tracks. You do something to stop it and then you call the cops. It wasn't like he had to guess what was going on... he testified to what he saw. Disgusting. What a gutless PoS.
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Absolutely!! He deserved a beatdown on the spot to begin with...
 
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4four4 said:
How exactly does this scandal effect a Division 1 varsity hockey program that doesn't even exist yet? They have no where to go but up on the other hand the football program......
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Other University's faced with dramatic institutional failures like this (and none have been "like" this) have made equally dramatic changes to their athletic programs. The national discussion happening today often includes the argument that our higher education system is there to serve learning and schools making tens of millions of dollars per year from sports have their priorities skewed.

For the entertainment value I'd like to see Penn State eliminate all intercollegiate sports (except club teams). I don't think it's likely but the consternation that would induce would be a lovely thing to behold.
 
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mariucci said:
Absolutely!! He deserved a beatdown on the spot to begin with...
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Agreed.

You'd think a high school wrestling coach could administer a "beatdown," yet he too, did nothing. Is he a coward also? Seems like we're going to hear about lots and lots of people who saw something, did nothing and are all "cowards" according to the experts on USCHO.

Now if there is a silver lining to come out of all of this, maybe people who have witnessed other "odd" behavior will come forward and report it to the police. Because it sure seems to me that a lot of people have witnessed stuff like this and buried their heads in the sand.

"The grand jury statement says Sandusky often had unmonitored meetings with the boy, and that a school wrestling coach witnessed inappropriate touching between the two in a weight room."

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...rry-no-sandusky-child-sex-abuse#ixzz1dPxVgo38
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Hammy said:
Mike McQueary was a coward. He was a 28 year old man that had a chance to stop a child rapist in his tracks. You do something to stop it and then you call the cops. It wasn't like he had to guess what was going on... he testified to what he saw. Disgusting. What a gutless PoS.
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This. There is no excuse for walking away. None.
 
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dggoddard said:
Agreed.

You'd think a high school wrestling coach could administer a "beatdown," yet he too, did nothing. Is he a coward also? Seems like we're going to hear about lots and lots of people who saw something, did nothing and are all "cowards" according to the experts on USCHO.

Now if there is a silver lining to come out of all of this, maybe people who have witnessed other "odd" behavior will come forward and report it to the police. Because it sure seems to me that a lot of people have witnessed stuff like this and buried their heads in the sand.
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I am absolutely astonished that you continue to defend this guy.
 
4four4 said:
How exactly does this scandal effect a Division 1 varsity hockey program that doesn't even exist yet? They have no where to go but up on the other hand the football program......
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A lot of it sounds like wishful thinking to me
 
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The assurance within athletic programs that rules and ethics are for ordinary beings is the product of widespread celebrity, success which tramples probability of equality, and a huge revenue stream. So far the Penn State DI hockey program displays none of these qualities. No worries - yet.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
I am absolutely astonished that you continue to defend this guy.
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I'm saying wait to hear his side of the story. I also stated that Penn State may have "whistleblower issues" to contend with and that may explain why he hasn't and may not be fired.

I'm pretty certain he will never coach again at Penn State or anywhere again.

No doubt his life is going to be drastically affected by this scandal.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
It will by hysterical if all the Big 10 schools have to scramble to find a conference to play in.
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Hysterical, yes. But it might be a nail in OSU's hockey coffin if they wind up in the new WCHA. The biggest draw would be Bowling Green, who can't even draw a crowd in their own arena. OSU already plays to sparse crowds and if they wind up in a conference with no Notre Dame, No Miami, and no B1G teams.......
 
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Bossk said:
Hysterical, yes. But it might be a nail in OSU's hockey coffin if they wind up in the new WCHA. The biggest draw would be Bowling Green, who can't even draw a crowd in their own arena. OSU already plays to sparse crowds and if they wind up in a conference with no Notre Dame, No Miami, and no B1G teams.......
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Why would you assume that MSU and UM would not be in whatever conference OSU ends up in? (hypothetically speaking, as I would wager a bet that the BTN would scramble to pick up enough pieces to make a new B1G program.
 
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alfablue said:
Why would you assume that MSU and UM would not be in whatever conference OSU ends up in? (hypothetically speaking, as I would wager a bet that the BTN would scramble to pick up enough pieces to make a new B1G program.
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I gotta think that the scramble would be teams trying to get into whatever conference the remaining 5 would form.

That's neither here nor there though as PSU's hockey program is not in any jeopardy.
 
dggoddard said:
I'm saying wait to hear his side of the story. I also stated that Penn State may have "whistleblower issues" to contend with and that may explain why he hasn't and may not be fired.

I'm pretty certain he will never coach again at Penn State or anywhere again.

No doubt his life is going to be drastically affected by this scandal.
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I am. But the only thing that will satisfy me that he isn't a coward is if he did try and stop it from happening and was beaten unconscious, etc..

In my book, there is absolutely no excuse for not trying to do everything and anything in your power to stop what he saw.
 
Bossk said:
Hysterical, yes. But it might be a nail in OSU's hockey coffin if they wind up in the new WCHA. The biggest draw would be Bowling Green, who can't even draw a crowd in their own arena. OSU already plays to sparse crowds and if they wind up in a conference with no Notre Dame, No Miami, and no B1G teams.......
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IF Penn State doesn't join the Big Ten (and that's a long shot at this point IMO), the Big Ten will just extend an invite to another team.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
IF Penn State doesn't join the Big Ten (and that's a long shot at this point IMO), the Big Ten will just extend an invite to another team.
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Would that team get revenue sharing from the B1G?
 
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