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Ohio State 22-23 Are we Better Than You Think?

OSU fans, curious for anyone who may have been at the game last night, was OSU as dominant as the shot totals would indicate? I caught the last bit on the radio but it was just before the tying goal so I missed most of the game. Given how strong Michigan has been of late offensively it appeared statistically like OSU should be really proud of that effort.

They did have the better of the play for a lot of the night. They missed 3 open nets in the 3rd period or they get the full 3 points. Michigan took advantage of the chances they did have and had 3 goals on their first 12 shots i think.
 
2 seed is pretty much a (crack) pipe dream at this point, and psu is lined up really well to get the 3. Boys need to fight hard for that 3 and avoid Minny until the final.

Get 3 points today and they are no worse than tied for 3rd but I agree that getting that 2 seed is going to be a real stretch going to Minnesota next weekend. Also win today and a penn state loss means Penn State can only get to 36 points. Need points today regardless of the amount if they want a chance at home ice. 2 points would make ND have to sweep Michigan to pass them and Penn state having to get 6 in the next 3 games to pass them. Would be nice if Wisconsin could take any points from Michigan State tonight. Getting swept at Michigan State in November might be the difference in hosting or not.
 
Get 3 points today and they are no worse than tied for 3rd but I agree that getting that 2 seed is going to be a real stretch going to Minnesota next weekend. Also win today and a penn state loss means Penn State can only get to 36 points. Need points today regardless of the amount if they want a chance at home ice. 2 points would make ND have to sweep Michigan to pass them and Penn state having to get 6 in the next 3 games to pass them. Would be nice if Wisconsin could take any points from Michigan State tonight. Getting swept at Michigan State in November might be the difference in hosting or not.

Win tonight and a PSU loss, and we should have the tiebreakers against Michigan (head-to-head) and PSU (conference winning %). Let's hope Minny comes out with the same fire they showed last night and then decides to rest some players next weekend. First things first is that the Buckeyes need to take care of business this afternoon. A 2 would be great, but at least getting the 3 is huge in avoiding Minny until the final. Lotta strands in ol' Duder's head this weekend. Thankfully, I'm keeping my mind limber with a strict gin & vermouth regimen.
 
Well they took care of business getting 3 points and then got help from Wisconsin. Now only needing 2 points of their own or a ND loss to earn home ice. Still a shot at 2nd place too. Just need to match Michigan next weekend.
 
Well they took care of business getting 3 points and then got help from Wisconsin. Now only needing 2 points of their own or a ND loss to earn home ice. Still a shot at 2nd place too. Just need to match Michigan next weekend.

I think you end up with the 3, but the real question is...who do you prefer to see in the first round series (assuming it's not Wisco)?
 
Crazy final weekend where four different teams could all end up anywhere from 2nd to 5th.

EDIT: After thinking about it, rechecking my cypherin' and making sure that I didn't forget to carry my aught, I don't think it's possible for us to drop below 4th since we have the tiebreaker with Michigan. We hold the tiebreaker against Michigan and PSU, but the domers have it against us. Of course, the simplest route is to come back from Minneapolis with some points. I won't be greedy and happily settle for three along with a domer-tsun split.
 
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Crazy final weekend where four different teams could all end up anywhere from 2nd to 5th.

EDIT: After thinking about it, rechecking my cypherin' and making sure that I didn't forget to carry my aught, I don't think it's possible for us to drop below 4th since we have the tiebreaker with Michigan. We hold the tiebreaker against Michigan and PSU, but the domers have it against us. Of course, the simplest route is to come back from Minneapolis with some points. I won't be greedy and happily settle for three along with a domer-tsun split.

They can finish 5th if they get swept and Penn State gets 6 points from Wisconsin. They could also finish behind ND if they get swept and ND sweeps Michigan
 
They can finish 5th if they get swept and Penn State gets 6 points from Wisconsin. They could also finish behind ND if they get swept and ND sweeps Michigan

If they get swept and PSU sweeps that puts them at 36 and 37 respectively. Depending on what happens with ND-UM then:
UM sweeps, and the final standings would be Minny-UM-PSU-OSU.
ND sweeps, and final standings are 1. Minny, 2/3 ND and PSU (not sure how their tiebreaker stands), 4/5 Ohio State-UM (we have the tiebreaker)
Notre Dame gets 3 or 4 points and they finish behind us.
Notre Dame gets 5 points, and they tie us for 4/5 and have the tiebreaker. So you are correct. There is a scenario where we could drop to 5th.
 
If they get swept and PSU sweeps that puts them at 36 and 37 respectively. Depending on what happens with ND-UM then:
UM sweeps, and the final standings would be Minny-UM-PSU-OSU.
ND sweeps, and final standings are 1. Minny, 2/3 ND and PSU (not sure how their tiebreaker stands), 4/5 Ohio State-UM (we have the tiebreaker)
Notre Dame gets 3 or 4 points and they finish behind us.
Notre Dame gets 5 points, and they tie us for 4/5 and have the tiebreaker. So you are correct. There is a scenario where we could drop to 5th.

Just get 2 points and no one can pass them and finish 3rd.
 
It could be a great series if you guys can win the special teams battle.

Looking Forward to this weekend. They found a way to beat them in Columbus before Minnesota got rolling so I want to see how they match up on the big ice. Cant take penalties this weekend or they wont win. That 90% PK is going to be tested for sure.
 
Looking Forward to this weekend. They found a way to beat them in Columbus before Minnesota got rolling so I want to see how they match up on the big ice. Cant take penalties this weekend or they wont win. That 90% PK is going to be tested for sure.

I don't have any doubt if both teams are at their best it would be a tight series. It's been a meat grinder in the B1G this year and we're in for an exciting finish. Getting 5 of 6 last weekend gave me a whole new level of respect for OSU.
 
I wonder if the Duke brothers talk smack across the table at Thanksgiving? LOL!
Seriously though, rivalries should be reasonably civil, there's never an excuse to be disrespectful to someone for being a fan of their team. I don't tolerate fans at Ohio State who are old enough to know better to not act like a drunken frat boy!
 
Saw something posted on another site that its confirmed that the new arena will only seat 1500-3000 that is absurd. The men will never leave the schott now. They need a place of their own to play and practice. They hardly ever get to practice on the ice they play on.
 
Saw something posted on another site that its confirmed that the new arena will only seat 1500-3000 that is absurd. The men will never leave the schott now. They need a place of their own to play and practice. They hardly ever get to practice on the ice they play on.

I thought that the design study was going to be the final confirmation, and there's no way that's been completed. In any event, it's pretty unsurprising to me. There was no right size for both the men and women, and it was pretty clear that the women were first in line. Hell, I think that if it wasn't for the NC and Muzz speaking up about it, Gene would have let them rot in the ice rink. He's never been a friend to the hockey programs. Rohlik seems content with the max 7700 lower tier at the Schott and having sellouts over extra seats. It will probably take him winning a NC and putting the screws to Gene to get a men's arena.

I would only hope that the design from both an architectural and land standpoint comes up with something where a 7500 seat men's arena can seamlessly be added in the future.
 
The way they stepped up against Michigan, I'd favor them over all three of the possible matchups at home. On the road, I would not want to deal with Jeff Jackson (but that's pretty unlikely to happen).

Penn State sweeps, Ohio State gets swept and ND takes 5 points from Michigan, and it's ND #4/OSU #5.
 
Saw something posted on another site that its confirmed that the new arena will only seat 1500-3000 that is absurd.
It's only absurd if we're building a facility for both teams to compete in. If the new building is for Women's games only, that's the perfect size. IMHO.

The men will never leave the schott now.
Based on the tea leaves I've been reading for years, you've got the order of events backwards. My perception is that it was first decided that the Men were staying in the Schott. If true, then it makes perfect sense that the new facility should be optimally sized for the Women's program. However it now appears that the decision to stay in the Schott may be under further review.

They need a place of their own to play and practice. They hardly ever get to practice on the ice they play on.
Well, yeah. Can't disagree.

So maybe the Men's Program is now saying: "Hey, wait a minute. We're not going to make the Art Modell mistake. We want new digs too."

Eddie Schorr said:
I thought that the design study was going to be the final confirmation, and there's no way that's been completed.
That's certainly my reading of the recent trustees' action. It now seems that issues we thought were settled are to be revisited. If yes, that's going to take time.

In any event, it's pretty unsurprising to me. There was no right size for both the men and women, and it was pretty clear that the women were first in line...
Which is why I had thought the "Pegula Model" at Penn State had been deemed unsuitable for Ohio State. (one rink for both teams) Instead, Minnesota's Mariucci/Ridder Model or Wisconsin's Kohl/LaBahn Model -- meaning one rink for each team -- were the more relevant examples.

And yes, Women's Hockey should be "first in line." The Men's Hockey set-up at the Schott isn't ideal, but it is satisfactory. The Women's Team needs a new facility on ASAP basis. In fact it's long overdue. Don't get me wrong, I also want the Men's Team to get upgrades and be well taken care of.

I would only hope that the design from both an architectural and land standpoint comes up with something where a 7500 seat men's arena can seamlessly be added in the future.
The site that's been proposed is North of Covelli. In other words, not physically connected to, or even adjacent to, the Schott. If that's a guiding principle, then a future arena designed specifically for Men's Hockey could be built anywhere there's a suitable piece of land. But maybe this is also under further review.

FWIW, the two rinks are connected by tunnels at both MN & WI. Among other things, this is quite helpful if you're hosting a tournament. Example: Availability of additional locker rooms. But if the new building is equipped with plenty of locker rooms, a spacious press box and so on, then the tunnel connection is less of a priority.
 
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