Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

[Patman]

I know! You know how she could have competed in the AA? Score better than her teammates. Too freakin' bad for her. The rules are the rules and when they don't work in our favor, this is what happens. As the current all around world champion, she should have scored better in her events. But she didn't, and that's what happened. Boo hoo. Cry me a river. I know the women won the team gold but I just saw her uneven bar routine and it was kinda awful.

Also - I actually have no problem with Ryan Seacrest outside of the Olympics but he really has no business being in London working for NBC.

The rules are in place because they feel it's unfair for certain countries to have so much depth and they think by doing so they include more athletes. It has nothing to do with the athletes themselves.

Swimming also has this problem... American podium sweeps are not liked

 

[Old Pio]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

Man, I just watched the lady gymnasts. They are such, I don't know, STUDS. Wow. Most of my life, it's been the USA athletes who unspool, not the Russians.
Not this time.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

My rant from GPL on NBC's coverage this year:

NBC has done an absolutely terrible job all around this year. From spoiling results, to not posting scores after routines or dives, to having some of the worst interviews I've ever seen. Bob Costas is the only one who should have a job after this debacle.

There has been at least a dozen times where I've had to search back through the DVR recording trying to find a score that was never posted on the screen. Just pathetic. Not to mention the fact that the announcers assume everyone is an expert at each of the respective sports.

I also mentioned it in an earlier post, but the coverage is about 80% commercials. I can fill up my DVR with 20 hours of coverage and watch all of it within four hours. Unacceptable.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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The rules are in place because they feel it's unfair for certain countries to have so much depth and they think by doing so they include more athletes. It has nothing to do with the athletes themselves.

Swimming also has this problem... American podium sweeps are not liked

So, instead of awarding the best athletes in the world, we award participation ribbons. Also known as bronze medals. Hoooray, everyone wins!!!

 

[Twitch Boy]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

Larisa Latynina wanted to present Michael Phelps with the medal that broke her record, but the IOC wouldn't allow it.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

On another note of IOC stupidity/stodginess, Doug Collins is working for NBC on basketball. Yeah, that's not awkward at all.

I just can't see why Latynina couldn't present the medal. Would've been a nice moment.

 

[bronconick]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

The rules are in place because they feel it's unfair for certain countries to have so much depth and they think by doing so they include more athletes. It has nothing to do with the athletes themselves.

Swimming also has this problem... American podium sweeps are not liked

Swimming solves the problem by only letting two people from any one country in said event.

If you're going to let 3-5 people per country compete, you need to realize that podium sweeps are quite possible, not let some schmuck who finished 28th ahead of someone who finished 4th in the actual Olympic qualifying because their country sucks at said sport.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Larisa Latynina wanted to present Michael Phelps with the medal that broke her record, but the IOC wouldn't allow it.

Ridiculous. The IOC really deserves little of our respect. Hard to think of a more corrupt NGO and they just don't seem to get it...

 

[bronconick]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

Ridiculous. The IOC really deserves little of our respect. Hard to think of a more corrupt NGO and they just don't seem to get it...

FIFA waves at you from the sands of Qatar.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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The Olympics are supposed to be about rewarding the best athletes. This rule is simply pathetic. For the 4th best gymnast in prelims to not even get a chance to compete for a medal while the 25 best does is nothing less than a travesty.

 

[alfablue]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

The Olympics are supposed to be about rewarding the best athletes. This rule is simply pathetic. For the 4th best gymnast in prelims to not even get a chance to compete for a medal while the 25 best does is nothing less than a travesty.

So you want a job with NBC, it seems.

The horse died yesterday morning on this subject, the buzzards has been picking at the bones since the afternoon. There's nothing left to beat on.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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So you want a job with NBC, it seems.

The horse died yesterday morning on this subject, the buzzards has been picking at the bones since the afternoon. There's nothing left to beat on.

And your point is?

People are still commenting on it here this morning. Deal with it.

 

[bronconick]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

So you want a job with NBC, it seems.

The horse died yesterday morning on this subject, the buzzards has been picking at the bones since the afternoon. There's nothing left to beat on.

This is the non-spoiler thread. Discussing things that happened hours or days before is the point.

 

[LynahFan]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

The Olympics are supposed to be about rewarding the best athletes. This rule is simply pathetic. For the 4th best gymnast in prelims to not even get a chance to compete for a medal while the 25 best does is nothing less than a travesty.

Sure, but there have to be limits. What if the 6th best US gymnast is #10 in the world? She doesn't even get to go to the games at all (okay, I'm sure they take an alternate). I'm sure that the US has benefited at times from rules limiting the number of competitors from other countries - we just happened to have the short end of the stick on this occasion. Pretty much every sport tweaks the playoffs in some way rather than doing straight seeding of the best competitors - autobids in NCAA hockey, max of 2 teams per conference in the BCS, division winners seeded ahead of wild cards with better records in baseball, etc. This is just the Olympic version.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

Sure, but there have to be limits. What if the 6th best US gymnast is #10 in the world? She doesn't even get to go to the games at all (okay, I'm sure they take an alternate). I'm sure that the US has benefited at times from rules limiting the number of competitors from other countries - we just happened to have the short end of the stick on this occasion. Pretty much every sport tweaks the playoffs in some way rather than doing straight seeding of the best competitors - autobids in NCAA hockey, max of 2 teams per conference in the BCS, division winners seeded ahead of wild cards with better records in baseball, etc. This is just the Olympic version.

And this Olympic version is akin to the BCS.

 

[alfablue]

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And your point is?

People are still commenting on it here this morning. Deal with it.

And you can't deal with the results, somehow? How about YOU deal with it?

I seriously doubt that more volume of discussion is going to change anything.

This is the non-spoiler thread. Discussing things that happened hours or days before is the point.

We don't need more drama that the athletes have already moved on for. NBC reminded us of this injustice enough last night with their coverage.

Unless we feel that with the total volume of posts and reminders on NBC that somehow Jordan will get into the overall final....

 

[bronconick]

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Sure, but there have to be limits. What if the 6th best US gymnast is #10 in the world? She doesn't even get to go to the games at all (okay, I'm sure they take an alternate). I'm sure that the US has benefited at times from rules limiting the number of competitors from other countries - we just happened to have the short end of the stick on this occasion. Pretty much every sport tweaks the playoffs in some way rather than doing straight seeding of the best competitors - autobids in NCAA hockey, max of 2 teams per conference in the BCS, division winners seeded ahead of wild cards with better records in baseball, etc. This is just the Olympic version.

Then do what swimming does and say only two competitors per country. This concern is incredibly misplaced from the IOC when they've got Badminton and Table Tennis haven given out 118 medals to China and South Korea out of a possible 152 since 1988 coming into these games.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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And you can't deal with the results, somehow? How about YOU deal with it?

I seriously doubt that more volume of discussion is going to change anything.



We don't need more drama that the athletes have already moved on for. NBC reminded us of this injustice enough last night with their coverage.

Unless we feel that with the total volume of posts and reminders on NBC that somehow Jordan will get into the overall final....

So, you're suggesting that on a message board, in a thread about the Olympics, we don't discuss one the of the bigger controversies of the Olympics? You do realize that this IS THE EXACT REASON THIS THREAD EXISTS!

 

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Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

Larisa Latynina wanted to present Michael Phelps with the medal that broke her record, but the IOC wouldn't allow it.

I’m getting kind of annoyed by the amount of hype around the “most medals ever”.

No surprise that the two sports involved are swimming and gymnastics. Swimming has a lot of events; four different strokes (that are not for differerent folks ), medley events, and relays, in a relatively compressed range of distances, none (except maybe the 1500 meters) that is so taxing that you can’t enter several medal events.

In gymnastics, there are four apparatus events, the team event, and the all around. You’re pretty much automatically entered in two, and probably in three or more.

In other disciplines it’s much harder, the extreme being decathlon. They have to train for ten events as disparate as 100 meter dash, shot put, and pole vault, and at the end of the day (actually two days) the winner get one lousy medal, even if he won more than one of the individual events.

Nothing against Phelps or Latynina. They’re the most medaled swimmer and gymnast, respectively. But to use medal count to compare them to athletes in other sports is unfair to the athletes in the other sports.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: Official XXX Summer Olympiad: London 2012- Take II

Then do what swimming does and say only two competitors per country. This concern is incredibly misplaced from the IOC when they've got Badminton and Table Tennis haven given out 118 medals to China and South Korea out of a possible 152 since 1988 coming into these games.

As far as I'm concerned those don't count. If they're giving out medals for ping pong, then they may as well let billiards, darts and competitive eating into the games.