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They sure mattered back in February when they showed that Obama was more popular than the Beatles...
Back when Spin wasn't posting them?
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Back when Spin wasn't posting them?
UMDBulldogHockeyIsKing
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They didn't matter then either.
They sure mattered back in February when they showed that Obama was more popular than the Beatles...
They didn't matter then either.
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Did Scott Rasmussen break up with mookie and start dating Spin Control?
That guy sure gets around. 
Anyway, make sure you aren't drinking anything right now because this poll didn't seem to get posted by our conservative friends, but when you see it you're going to spit liquid all over your computer screen....
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Obviously, it’s way too early to evaluate the political environment for the 2012 election, and it’s important to remember that four years ago Obama would not have been considered a serious national challenger for 2008. For Dobbs, the data shows how improbable such an independent bid could be.
With Dobbs out of the equation, Obama and Romney are tied at 44%, Obama leads Huckabee 45% to 41%, and the president leads Palin 46% to 43%.
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Yup, that's right people and I'm not making this up. Palin is within 3% points of being elected President were the election to be held today.
Anytime anybody brings up this pollster again, even if they are currently engaged in a personal relationship with the man, this poll result is going up in response, and really, nothing else needs to be said. 
Did Scott Rasmussen break up with mookie and start dating Spin Control?
That guy sure gets around. Anyway, make sure you aren't drinking anything right now because this poll didn't seem to get posted by our conservative friends, but when you see it you're going to spit liquid all over your computer screen....-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously, it’s way too early to evaluate the political environment for the 2012 election, and it’s important to remember that four years ago Obama would not have been considered a serious national challenger for 2008. For Dobbs, the data shows how improbable such an independent bid could be.
With Dobbs out of the equation, Obama and Romney are tied at 44%, Obama leads Huckabee 45% to 41%, and the president leads Palin 46% to 43%.
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Yup, that's right people and I'm not making this up. Palin is within 3% points of being elected President were the election to be held today.
Anytime anybody brings up this pollster again, even if they are currently engaged in a personal relationship with the man, this poll result is going up in response, and really, nothing else needs to be said. Re: ObamaRama 8
I really couldn't care less about head-to-head numbers right now, but remind me who was the most accurate pollster last election?
Yup, that's right people and I'm not making this up. Palin is within 3% points of being elected President were the election to be held today.
I really couldn't care less about head-to-head numbers right now, but remind me who was the most accurate pollster last election?
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Not sure, but remember my brilliant analysis of how in every swing state that he polled in the weekend before the election, he had a constant bias towards McCain from 2-8 points, and not once towards Obama? What are the odds of that happening?
PS - Do YOU believe Palin is within the margin of error of the Presidency? Time to see who puts their money where their mouth is so to speak.
I really could care less about head-to-head numbers right now, but remind me who was the most accurate pollster last election?
Not sure, but remember my brilliant analysis of how in every swing state that he polled in the weekend before the election, he had a constant bias towards McCain from 2-8 points, and not once towards Obama? What are the odds of that happening?
PS - Do YOU believe Palin is within the margin of error of the Presidency? Time to see who puts their money where their mouth is so to speak.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
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Actually I wouldn't doubt it but heaven help us if it happens.
PS - Do YOU believe Palin is within the margin of error of the Presidency? Time to see who puts their money where their mouth is so to speak.
Actually I wouldn't doubt it but heaven help us if it happens.
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But if the Beatles were more popular than God, what does that make Obama??They sure mattered back in February when they showed that Obama was more popular than the Beatles...
ScottM
**** it feels good to be a bankster
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Godbama?
But if the Beatles were more popular than God, what does that make Obama??
Godbama?
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I can see how she would poll that close right now. Her book just came out so she is in the public eye. Add on top of that the growing dissatisfication with Obama (hence the other names that are close) and I can see that number being accurate. There are a lot of people that will simply vote against Obama right now regardless of who you put on the other side.
Keep in mind, just because you can't stand her it doesn't mean that other people don't like her.
PS - like you would ever be willing to put your money where your mouth is.
Not sure, but remember my brilliant analysis of how in every swing state that he polled in the weekend before the election, he had a constant bias towards McCain from 2-8 points, and not once towards Obama? What are the odds of that happening?
PS - Do YOU believe Palin is within the margin of error of the Presidency? Time to see who puts their money where their mouth is so to speak.
I can see how she would poll that close right now. Her book just came out so she is in the public eye. Add on top of that the growing dissatisfication with Obama (hence the other names that are close) and I can see that number being accurate. There are a lot of people that will simply vote against Obama right now regardless of who you put on the other side.
Keep in mind, just because you can't stand her it doesn't mean that other people don't like her.
PS - like you would ever be willing to put your money where your mouth is.
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To follow up on your first question, funny but it seems multiple posters are claiming the "most accurate of 2008" mantle....
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IBD/TIPP Takes Top Honors Again
Written by Investor's Business Daily
Tuesday, 16 December 2008 00:00
Election: Now that the '08 tally is official, we note that for the second election in a row, the IBD/TIPP Poll not only came closest to the final margin, but was right on the money — tantamount to hitting a bullet with a bullet.
Results certified over the weekend show Barack Obama got 52.9% of the popular vote vs. 45.7% for John McCain. The difference — 7.2 percentage points — is exactly what IBD/TIPP predicted just hours before polls opened Nov. 4.
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BTW - For all of you who do really think Palin is close to even money to being President you'd better get your accomodations straighted out for the Inauguration next time around. With those 2M teabaggers in town for the event again like there were a few months ago, it might be tough to find a place to stay....
Sometimes, this is just too easy....
To follow up on your first question, funny but it seems multiple posters are claiming the "most accurate of 2008" mantle....
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IBD/TIPP Takes Top Honors Again
Written by Investor's Business Daily
Tuesday, 16 December 2008 00:00
Election: Now that the '08 tally is official, we note that for the second election in a row, the IBD/TIPP Poll not only came closest to the final margin, but was right on the money — tantamount to hitting a bullet with a bullet.
Results certified over the weekend show Barack Obama got 52.9% of the popular vote vs. 45.7% for John McCain. The difference — 7.2 percentage points — is exactly what IBD/TIPP predicted just hours before polls opened Nov. 4.
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BTW - For all of you who do really think Palin is close to even money to being President
you'd better get your accomodations straighted out for the Inauguration next time around. With those 2M teabaggers in town for the event again like there were a few months ago, it might be tough to find a place to stay....Sometimes, this is just too easy....
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I agree with Rover (did I just say that?): it's way too soon to get serious about '12. Four years ago Barack Obama was that charming young guy who gave a great speech, but we all KNEW Hillary was going to be the nominee.
In '68 Nixon was elected president. Four years before that, he was as finished as anyone could be. The comback began in the '66 off year elections, where he stumped (I love using that word) for a lot of successful republican candidates. Admittedly, discussing Nixon in the context of potential GOP nominees for '12 is rather like comparing Spanky and Darla putting on a show in the back yard with the Metropolitan Opera, but you get the point.
I agree with Rover (did I just say that?): it's way too soon to get serious about '12. Four years ago Barack Obama was that charming young guy who gave a great speech, but we all KNEW Hillary was going to be the nominee.
In '68 Nixon was elected president. Four years before that, he was as finished as anyone could be. The comback began in the '66 off year elections, where he stumped (I love using that word) for a lot of successful republican candidates. Admittedly, discussing Nixon in the context of potential GOP nominees for '12 is rather like comparing Spanky and Darla putting on a show in the back yard with the Metropolitan Opera, but you get the point.
Hammer
We'll be back.
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The spring of 2011 is likely too soon to be thinking about 2012. A couple of us have said this before, but in the spring of 1991 George H. W. Bush was rolling with an approval rating in the 80's. We all know how that turned out a year and a half later.
From an election standpoint, right now the approval ratings are just background noise. And I'd stand behind that comment whether Obama's approval rating was 17% or 87%, or anywhere in between.
The spring of 2011 is likely too soon to be thinking about 2012. A couple of us have said this before, but in the spring of 1991 George H. W. Bush was rolling with an approval rating in the 80's. We all know how that turned out a year and a half later.
From an election standpoint, right now the approval ratings are just background noise. And I'd stand behind that comment whether Obama's approval rating was 17% or 87%, or anywhere in between.
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Off topic I know, but I found this interesting little item today about the way times have changed. (Source: Casey's Daily Dispatch; not sure where they got it from.)
SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2009
Scenario :
Jack goes rabbit shooting before school, pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.
1957 - Vice principal comes over, looks at Jack's rifle, goes to his car and gets his rifle and chats with Jack about guns.
2009 - School goes into lockdown, Star Force called, Jack hauled off to jail, and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario:
Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2009 - Police called, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it. Both children go to anger management programs for 3 months. School board holds meeting to implement bullying prevention programs.
Scenario:
Robbie won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Robbie sent to office and given 6 of the best by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still, and does not disrupt class again.
2009 - Robbie given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. Robbie's parents get fortnightly disability payments and school gets extra funding from state because Robbie has a disability.
Scenario:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car, and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2009 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself, and their dad goes to prison.
Scenario:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark gets glass of water from principal to take aspirin with.
2009 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, and goes to college.
2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. AFRE files class-action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway, but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from Guy Fawkes, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up an ant nest.
1957 - Ants die.
2009 - State Police, Star Force, Federal Police, and Anti-terrorism Squad called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, feds investigate parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated. Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
Off topic I know, but I found this interesting little item today about the way times have changed. (Source: Casey's Daily Dispatch; not sure where they got it from.)
SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2009
Scenario :
Jack goes rabbit shooting before school, pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.
1957 - Vice principal comes over, looks at Jack's rifle, goes to his car and gets his rifle and chats with Jack about guns.
2009 - School goes into lockdown, Star Force called, Jack hauled off to jail, and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario:
Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2009 - Police called, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it. Both children go to anger management programs for 3 months. School board holds meeting to implement bullying prevention programs.
Scenario:
Robbie won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Robbie sent to office and given 6 of the best by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still, and does not disrupt class again.
2009 - Robbie given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. Robbie's parents get fortnightly disability payments and school gets extra funding from state because Robbie has a disability.
Scenario:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car, and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2009 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself, and their dad goes to prison.
Scenario:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark gets glass of water from principal to take aspirin with.
2009 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, and goes to college.
2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. AFRE files class-action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway, but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from Guy Fawkes, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up an ant nest.
1957 - Ants die.
2009 - State Police, Star Force, Federal Police, and Anti-terrorism Squad called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, feds investigate parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated. Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
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The economy is nowhere near where it will be...with anything possible from the economy being on fire or the wheels coming off.
But I will put one bet out there...and that being no way Palin gets anywhere near the white house. She probably won't run...but if she does, she's out early or out big.
The economy is nowhere near where it will be...with anything possible from the economy being on fire or the wheels coming off.
But I will put one bet out there...and that being no way Palin gets anywhere near the white house. She probably won't run...but if she does, she's out early or out big.
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I'd only add that in the Johnny and Mark scenario, one or both of the boys would be tazered.
I'd only add that in the Johnny and Mark scenario, one or both of the boys would be tazered.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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do you think if, knowing what we know now after the last 12 months, the election was held today that BHO would still win? do you think it would be closer? do you think that if there was an actual candidate on the R ticket outside of those three BHO would still be leading?!?
and just because katie couric made fun of sarah reading ALL the newspapers, doesn't mean many people wouldn't vote for her.
eek: )
Did .......and really, nothing else needs to be said.
do you think if, knowing what we know now after the last 12 months, the election was held today that BHO would still win? do you think it would be closer? do you think that if there was an actual candidate on the R ticket outside of those three BHO would still be leading?!?
and just because katie couric made fun of sarah reading ALL the newspapers, doesn't mean many people wouldn't vote for her.
eek: )
huskyfan
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communist!
Happy Thanksgiving to all my allies and sparing partners out here.
communist!
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Hows that MBA coming at Crackerjack U, Rover? Found that diploma at the bottom of the box yet?
Honestly though, you haven't lost your touch - you're as clueless as ever. I can't speak for Wyoming, but you can't speak for Wyoming, New Hampshire, or probably New York for that matter.
Let me clue you in on something buddy because you really don't know what you're talking about. NH is kicking the snot out of Maine, Mass, and VT along the border. On one side of the Connecticut you have quaint little New England towns with a town hall and a McD's and a convenience store. On the NH side you have all the shopping districts.
Likewise on the Maine border, you have a stark and very in-your-face difference between economic development in areas of higher tax vs. areas of lower tax. The one exception is the businesses of the Kittery outlet which who were practically given a years' worth of free intercourse to all their employees by the state of Maine if they didn't set up shop in NH. Then, as you go north of Kittery, nothing but the mom and pop coffee shop. Maine's gas is 15 to 20 cents higher, where do you think most people are patronizing.
Mass is a little better. But their are more small cities closer to the border on the Mass side than NH. However, Mass residents have been relocating into NH in droves over the past decade to escape the stifling taxes. This is plainly obvious from the changes in voting patterns over this time. (Sadly, now liberals have the power to elect moonbats like Carol Shea-Porter to federal and state positions, and now we are looking down the double barrels of higher taxes and reduced services. We don't have an income tax yet, but....)
Your argument that people would uproot and relocate across the globe for a lighter tax burden is absolutely foolish. Would businesses, however, relocate or change new development locations by 10 or 20 miles to avoid higher taxes? Would families relocate half hour or 45 minutes away when the time was right to take advantage of lower taxes? Of course they would.
A good rule of thumb is that whatever you say is dead wrong, Rover - you're that bad at comprehending how society and business work.
Boy, when you put it in that perspective.... The rise of Liberal predominance has sure made this country a better place, no? *giggle*
Hows that MBA coming at Crackerjack U, Rover? Found that diploma at the bottom of the box yet?
Honestly though, you haven't lost your touch - you're as clueless as ever. I can't speak for Wyoming, but you can't speak for Wyoming, New Hampshire, or probably New York for that matter.
Let me clue you in on something buddy because you really don't know what you're talking about. NH is kicking the snot out of Maine, Mass, and VT along the border. On one side of the Connecticut you have quaint little New England towns with a town hall and a McD's and a convenience store. On the NH side you have all the shopping districts.
Likewise on the Maine border, you have a stark and very in-your-face difference between economic development in areas of higher tax vs. areas of lower tax. The one exception is the businesses of the Kittery outlet which who were practically given a years' worth of free intercourse to all their employees by the state of Maine if they didn't set up shop in NH. Then, as you go north of Kittery, nothing but the mom and pop coffee shop. Maine's gas is 15 to 20 cents higher, where do you think most people are patronizing.
Mass is a little better. But their are more small cities closer to the border on the Mass side than NH. However, Mass residents have been relocating into NH in droves over the past decade to escape the stifling taxes. This is plainly obvious from the changes in voting patterns over this time. (Sadly, now liberals have the power to elect moonbats like Carol Shea-Porter to federal and state positions, and now we are looking down the double barrels of higher taxes and reduced services. We don't have an income tax yet, but....)
Your argument that people would uproot and relocate across the globe for a lighter tax burden is absolutely foolish. Would businesses, however, relocate or change new development locations by 10 or 20 miles to avoid higher taxes? Would families relocate half hour or 45 minutes away when the time was right to take advantage of lower taxes? Of course they would.
A good rule of thumb is that whatever you say is dead wrong, Rover - you're that bad at comprehending how society and business work.
Boy, when you put it in that perspective.... The rise of Liberal predominance has sure made this country a better place, no? *giggle*
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