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gregg729 said:
Boy, when you put it in that perspective.... The rise of Liberal predominance has sure made this country a better place, no? *giggle*

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Yea, when it's put that way, with an obvious bias to the old Leave it to Beaver days, it seems so awesome. Back to that simpler time, when **** like this was acceptable.


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Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
 
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Foxton said:
Yea, when it's put that way, with an obvious bias to the old Leave it to Beaver days, it seems so awesome. Back to that simpler time, when **** like this was acceptable.


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Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
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This seems to be a pretty stupid post you made. Do you have a point other than you don't like Leave it to Beaver because it's not edgy enough?

Because it doesn't have really anything to do with my observation.
 
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gregg729 said:
This seems to be a pretty stupid post you made. Do you have a point other than you don't like Leave it to Beaver because it's not edgy enough?

Because it doesn't have really anything to do with my observation.
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:rolleyes: Sexism is a hard concept to understand. Also get back to a time when racial segregation was still legal in parts of the country, but that wasn't part of the post.
 
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Foxton said:
:rolleyes: Sexism is a hard concept to understand. Also get back to a time when racial segregation was still legal in parts of the country, but that wasn't part of the post.
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Well I guess the liberals can take credit for the Civil Rights Act of 64. Not so much gender equality though, women got the ball rolling on that. In fact these days, it's liberals who voice questions on whether a woman can successfully balance a job (VPOTUS) and motherhood.

The now and then comparison doesn't appear to be politically motivated at all. Casey Research *seems* to be a nonpolitical organization and in the same daily article there's a left-leaning political cartoon right above the comparison.

I was the one who attached liberalism to the comparison, and rightly so IMO -you can't really accuse me of being biased without being hypocritical about it - you must admit every one of those close-to-the mark observations of a loss of common sense and overreacting fall squarely in the liberal camp.

If you can somehow concoct a rationale for disagreement, do us all a favor - start a new thread, let's not hijack the "The One, Verse 8" thread. ;) I - and many others I'm sure will gladly debate liberalism and conservatism in big picture terms. Very gladly.
 
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gregg729 said:
Well I guess the liberals can take credit for the Civil Rights Act of 64. Not so much gender equality though, women got the ball rolling on that. In fact these days, it's liberals who voice questions on whether a woman can successfully balance a job (VPOTUS) and motherhood.
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Women can't be liberals? Wow, no need to even look at the rest of your post.
 
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gregg729 said:
Hows that MBA coming at Crackerjack U, Rover? Found that diploma at the bottom of the box yet? ;)

Honestly though, you haven't lost your touch - you're as clueless as ever. I can't speak for Wyoming, but you can't speak for Wyoming, New Hampshire, or probably New York for that matter.

Let me clue you in on something buddy because you really don't know what you're talking about. NH is kicking the snot out of Maine, Mass, and VT along the border. On one side of the Connecticut you have quaint little New England towns with a town hall and a McD's and a convenience store. On the NH side you have all the shopping districts.

Likewise on the Maine border, you have a stark and very in-your-face difference between economic development in areas of higher tax vs. areas of lower tax. The one exception is the businesses of the Kittery outlet which who were practically given a years' worth of free intercourse to all their employees by the state of Maine if they didn't set up shop in NH. Then, as you go north of Kittery, nothing but the mom and pop coffee shop. Maine's gas is 15 to 20 cents higher, where do you think most people are patronizing.

Mass is a little better. But their are more small cities closer to the border on the Mass side than NH. However, Mass residents have been relocating into NH in droves over the past decade to escape the stifling taxes. This is plainly obvious from the changes in voting patterns over this time. (Sadly, now liberals have the power to elect moonbats like Carol Shea-Porter to federal and state positions, and now we are looking down the double barrels of higher taxes and reduced services. We don't have an income tax yet, but....)

Your argument that people would uproot and relocate across the globe for a lighter tax burden is absolutely foolish. Would businesses, however, relocate or change new development locations by 10 or 20 miles to avoid higher taxes? Would families relocate half hour or 45 minutes away when the time was right to take advantage of lower taxes? Of course they would.

A good rule of thumb is that whatever you say is dead wrong, Rover - you're that bad at comprehending how society and business work. :rolleyes:
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Never seen so much stupidity packed into one post. :eek: On Thansgiving no less - what happened - the turkey they served at your homeless shelter wasn't cooked right?:D

Not sure what the MBA I received 10 years ago from a university far superior to any one in New Hampshire not named "Dartmouth" has to do with anything, but suffice to say if you were making my money you'd be a lot less grumpy, and really wouldn't care about a half point change in your income taxes here and there.

Moving on, New Hampshire is a backwater state who's only positive is it happens to be located near the economic powerhouse of New England, the Boston metro area. Take that away and you'd be Mississippi, another state that refused to fund its education system. Think about it, how many graduates stay up there? Few, because there's no real jobs, just working in these many retail stores your so proud of (look mom - my UNH degree got me a job at Best Buy in Nashua!) Check out how many people are coming into Mass to work instead of commuting the other way some time, and get back to me.

The bottom line is, New Hampshire, like Mississippi or Wyoming, has had lower taxes for long enough that they should have overtaken the higher tax state in jobs and population. There should be more people and more jobs in these states than almost anywhere else. There isn't because taxes is not the dominant issue in locating a business somewhere, my point all along with has proven unassailable by you lightweights.

But, forget about arguing with me. Since your top tourist attraction (a rock formation) killed itself a few years back becuase it didn't want to spend another year in your state, get to work on rebuilding it so you can capture all those tourists who are spending time at Red Sox games, or visiting the Freedom Trail, or the MFA, or all of the other historic and cultural things going in in Mass that New Hampshire can only dream of. But hey, at least you have all those Wal-Marts....:rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:
 
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Rover said:
Yup, that's right people and I'm not making this up. Palin is within 3% points of being elected President were the election to be held today. :eek: Anytime anybody brings up this pollster again, even if they are currently engaged in a personal relationship with the man, this poll result is going up in response, and really, nothing else needs to be said. ;)
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You seriously need to lay off the sauce, commie.
 
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Rover said:
But, forget about arguing with me. Since your top tourist attraction (a rock formation) killed itself a few years back becuase it didn't want to spend another year in your state.....
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Nice. Rover: While I disagree with you on many levels, this observation is full of win.:D
 
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gregg729 said:
Boy, when you put it in that perspective.... The rise of Liberal predominance has sure made this country a better place, no? *giggle*

:D
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So after 20 years of nearly uninterrupted conservative governance, how come things haven't gotten better?

I mean, if you wanted to fix all that stuff, why didn't you? If you wanted healthcare to be better and more affordable, why didn't you introduce the legislation to do so? I mean, 20 years af practically uninterrupted governance, a chance to enact the conservative wet dream, and what have you done?

Nothing.
 
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rufus said:
So after 20 years of nearly uninterrupted conservative governance, how come things haven't gotten better?

I mean, if you wanted to fix all that stuff, why didn't you? If you wanted healthcare to be better and more affordable, why didn't you introduce the legislation to do so? I mean, 20 years af practically uninterrupted governance, a chance to enact the conservative wet dream, and what have you done?

Nothing.
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Why would you think that conservatives would have wanted healthcare to be better or more affordable? And even if a conservative wanted those things, he would try to achieve them by working at a health care provider or insurance company, not by turning to the government to solve the problem. :)
 
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LynahFan said:
Why would you think that conservatives would have wanted healthcare to be better or more affordable? And even if a conservative wanted those things, he would try to achieve them by working at a health care provider or insurance company, not by turning to the government to solve the problem. :)
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Well, they keep saying they have a plan, and wait for a minute, they'll show us their plan, and you don't need to spend a trillion dollars to fix it, we'll show you how, and yet, we never end up seeing anything.

I mean, anything that insures more people at less cost, or anything that isn't the status quo.
 
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walrus said:
How is this possible?, If they can cut costs, why not do it now?, not 4 years from now.
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Because in 4 years Obama will be re-elected already on the backs of this bill. whatever crap hits the fan because of it wont much matter because he doesnt have to win another election.

Come on walrus, basic political strategy. ;)
 
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Handyman said:
Because in 4 years Obama will be re-elected already on the backs of this bill. whatever crap hits the fan because of it wont much matter because he doesnt have to win another election.

Come on walrus, basic political strategy. ;)
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I don't want to believe that but when you look at the delay in implementing the plan is sure seems that way
 
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walrus said:
How is this possible?, If they can cut costs, why not do it now?, not 4 years from now.
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This also allows them to match up 10 years of savings and tax revenues with 6 years of costs to make it "look" like there might be deficit decreases with the health care bill when we all know better.
 
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rufus said:
Well, they keep saying they have a plan, and wait for a minute, they'll show us their plan, and you don't need to spend a trillion dollars to fix it, we'll show you how, and yet, we never end up seeing anything.

I mean, anything that insures more people at less cost, or anything that isn't the status quo.
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Well, whatever it takes to prevent an unjustified government intrusion into health care! :D
 
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walrus said:
I don't want to believe that but when you look at the delay in implementing the plan is sure seems that way
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I was talking to my father, a huge democrat (although not an Obama guy in any way) and he was all for the the bill UNTIL he heard that it wouldn't start right away but would be delayed to start...even he smelled the BS behind it and changed his mind.
 
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walrus said:
I don't want to believe that but when you look at the delay in implementing the plan is sure seems that way
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Not unlike the majority of the stimulus funds being unleashed several years down the road.....it'll be a campaign full of "if you re-elect me, you'll get your money".

And for some reason I think that the majority of American people will probably fall for it.
 
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