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Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

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Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Though of course the narrative of "those darned career politicians" is itself just another product, packaged, distributed, and bought.

I make a distinction between "long-term representative" and "career" politician. I don't mind having the same person represent a district for decades if the people keep voting her in.

I do think that our representatives overall have been way way way too generous in using our money to make a comfortable lifestyle for themselves. I do not think any legislator should have a defined benefit pension, for example; and I don't think service in any legislature should be a full-time job either. I would much prefer to see it like another form of jury duty; a concerned citizen's obligation to the greater good.

I'd set legislative pay as a per diem and not a fixed salary. When a person is first elected, s/he produces W2, Schedule C, whatever the source of their earned income, and that becomes their baseline (which they can then update if they get a promotion or new non-governmental job), then they get pro rata pay for each day the legislature is in session. Our "best" minds don't have to take a pay cut, our "passionate" advocates wouldn't be so easily distracted by the prospect of personal material gain. You merely are paid whatever you would have been paid anyway, it's completely neutral (and out of their hands...no more f^cking us over while voting themselves another pay raise in the process). No reason they couldn't have a 403b like any other employee, even allow a reasonable and customary employer match....just not such a fine guaranteed pension after just a few years of so-called "service."

We already have so many inconsistent if not outright contradictory laws on the books; rather than pass new laws, editing and consolidating existing laws should be a much higher priority. Using clear direct plain English also is extremely desirable!!
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Amusingly I don't blame Rove for the GOP's debacle. I think he did the best he could with the not very good hand he was dealt. As a political strategist, it wasn't his decision to go to war in Iraq nor squander the surplus. His ability to bring an unpopular President across the finish line in 2004 was top notch. Demographics more than anything else is screwing the GOP. Having said all that, I still think he could have engineered a hold of the House in 2006 were it not for John Murtha coming out against the war which gave squirrely Dems cover to unify in opposing it too (his famous comment "I like it when people with 5 deferments question my patriotism" also destroyed the myth of nobody opposing Dick Cheney and living to tell about it). However, that only would have lasted 2 more years...
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

I make a distinction between "long-term representative" and "career" politician. I don't mind having the same person represent a district for decades if the people keep voting her in.
Translation: A person with a "D" after their name is a "career" politician whereas a person with an "R" after their name is a "long-term representative." ;)

Or, as most people would say, "My district's senator/congressman is a long-term representative who does their best against the corruption of your district's career politician." :p
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Looks like the Kenyan is trying to come back out with "The Buffett Rule". Congratulations on killing just about every small business. Did you ever thinking about just writing a check to Parkersburg WV to contribute to the paying off of the public debt?
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Translation: A person with a "D" after their name is a "career" politician whereas a person with an "R" after their name is a "long-term representative."

That's silly. I was thinking of Sidney Yates, from Chicago's north shore. He was as far left a "D" as you could find, and he also was a pleasant genial caring fellow whom just about everyone liked and respected, no matter what their political orientation. The general feeling was "better to have a man of character and integrity you could trust than someone who says he is on your side whom you don't trust."

I believe Mr. Yates served something like 48 years for his district. His successor is not nearly so well-liked or respected, but since she is from Evanston, people think she must be okay and keep re-electing her as well. She's a bit too shrill for my taste. Yates was a pleasant fellow, Schakowsky is not. Yates never attacked anyone personally and never impugned anyone's character, Schakowsy's style is more attack dog. Nonetheless, she keeps getting re-elected too.

These folks consistently represent a point of view that is popular with their constituents. That's fine. I don't favor term limits.

I just don't like people like my representative, whose husband runs a polling company and who (until recently) received millions of dollars from the Democrat party in order to do polls for them. One has to wonder whether she is more a mouthpiece for the national party (to keep that polling business rolling along, until it became too much of an embarrassment, even for her!) and not a representative of the views of her district (which is gerrymandered so that the urban core is enough to keep her in office despite widespread dislike among all the suburban areas that detest her).
 
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(SNIP)...
I'd set legislative pay as a per diem and not a fixed salary. When a person is first elected, s/he produces W2, Schedule C, whatever the source of their earned income, and that becomes their baseline (which they can then update if they get a promotion or new non-governmental job), then they get pro rata pay for each day the legislature is in session. Our "best" minds don't have to take a pay cut, our "passionate" advocates wouldn't be so easily distracted by the prospect of personal material gain. You merely are paid whatever you would have been paid anyway, it's completely neutral (and out of their hands...no more f^cking us over while voting themselves another pay raise in the process). No reason they couldn't have a 403b like any other employee, even allow a reasonable and customary employer match....just not such a fine guaranteed pension after just a few years of so-called "service."
Unwittingly, you've solved the homeless and unemployment issues! If they have $0 to start, then I only have to pay them per diem + minimum wage!

Elect the tired, the poor
The huddled masses yearning to be free!
The wretched refuse of our teeming seashore.
Send me the homeless, wretched to DC!

:D
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Tell us something we didn't already know.
Well some believe in this:
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Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

That's silly. I was thinking of Sidney Yates, from Chicago's north shore. He was as far left a "D" as you could find, and he also was a pleasant genial caring fellow whom just about everyone liked and respected, no matter what their political orientation. The general feeling was "better to have a man of character and integrity you could trust than someone who says he is on your side whom you don't trust."

I believe Mr. Yates served something like 48 years for his district. His successor is not nearly so well-liked or respected, but since she is from Evanston, people think she must be okay and keep re-electing her as well. She's a bit too shrill for my taste. Yates was a pleasant fellow, Schakowsky is not. Yates never attacked anyone personally and never impugned anyone's character, Schakowsy's style is more attack dog. Nonetheless, she keeps getting re-elected too.

These folks consistently represent a point of view that is popular with their constituents. That's fine. I don't favor term limits.

I just don't like people like my representative, whose husband runs a polling company and who (until recently) received millions of dollars from the Democrat party in order to do polls for them. One has to wonder whether she is more a mouthpiece for the national party (to keep that polling business rolling along, until it became too much of an embarrassment, even for her!) and not a representative of the views of her district (which is gerrymandered so that the urban core is enough to keep her in office despite widespread dislike among all the suburban areas that detest her).

Plus, Ms. Shakowski (especially when compared to Sid Yates) is, uh, intellectually challenged. Barbara Jordan represented a district in Houston. She had achieved fame during the Nixon impeachment hearings. She died and was replaced by Mickey Leland, who lost his life bringing relief supplies to hurricane victims in south America. Mickey was replaced by Craig Washington, who, after the votes were counted, thanked the voters for sending him to Washington "for 20 years." There had been a rather significant "gravitas" drop off.

BTW, didn't Yates serve as a federal judge, too?
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Sadly many of us didn't already know this, and probably still won't.
I think everybody already knows this - some just don't care. When health care is a right, you're entitled to take it regardless of the negative externalities to everyone else.
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Of course not. They put their most senior anchorman out there with a fist full of forged documents in a well-planned totally false hit piece against the actual president in a deliberate, ham handed effort to influence the outcome of an election.






(oh comeon, you set that one up on a tee).

Come to think of it, though, who is Fox News' most senior anchorman? It's not O'Reilly, since he's most assuredly not a traditional anchor.

Care to explain what you're talking about, assuming you know? What, specifically, has Fox done that's even remotely comparable to Dan Rather's "forged but accurate" October surprise? You know, you guys really need to go cold turkey on these Tu Quoque arguments. "What NBC did with its fraudulent editing of the Zimmerman tape is okay, because of Fox." Nonsense. As to Fox's organizational chart, I'll leave that up to you ladies of the chorale, since you all evidently have your bloodshot eyeballs glued to the tube morning, noon and night.
 
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Care to explain what you're talking about, assuming you know? What, specifically, has Fox done that's even remotely comparable to Dan Rather's "forged but accurate" October surprise? As to Fox's organizational chart, I'll leave that up to you ladies of the chorale, since you all evidently watch morning, noon and night.

I don't watch, but if Brit Hume's still with the network, I'd say him.
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

I don't watch, but if Brit Hume's still with the network, I'd say him.

That answers the question about who's the most senior anchor, but doesn't address the question of what has Fox done that's comparable to what Rather did.
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Care to explain what you're talking about, assuming you know? What, specifically, has Fox done that's even remotely comparable to Dan Rather's "forged but accurate" October surprise? You know, you guys really need to go cold turkey on these Tu Quoque arguments. "What NBC did with its fraudulent editing of the Zimmerman tape is okay, because of Fox." Nonsense. As to Fox's organizational chart, I'll leave that up to you ladies of the chorale, since you all evidently have your bloodshot eyeballs glued to the tube morning, noon and night.

From what I've seen of Fox, they do a better job than most other networks in separating news from commentary. However, I see the local affiliate more often than the network, and my observations may be different from others if each local affiliate has wide latitude in this area. The old broadcast networks intersperse commentary and news, you even get editorial comments in the middle of a story. Fox commentators can be a strident bunch sometimes, the actual news is pretty much factual reporting. I also notice that if a right-wing person has done something wrong, Fox goes after that story nearly as hard as if a left-wing person had done it. I wish I could find an example that was pretty evident a few months back, it slips my mind at the moment.

I think what happens is people see the commentary on a network called Fox News and think that the commentary is the news, while the local news from Fox affiliates seems pretty straight while the affiliates then air the network-provided commentary.
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Plus, Ms. Shakowski (especially when compared to Sid Yates) is, uh, intellectually challenged. Barbara Jordan represented a district in Houston. She had achieved fame during the Nixon impeachment hearings. She died and was replaced by Mickey Leland, who lost his life bringing relief supplies to hurricane victims in south America. Mickey was replaced by Craig Washington, who, after the votes were counted, thanked the voters for sending him to Washington "for 20 years." There had been a rather significant "gravitas" drop off.

"Saxby Chambliss. White courtesy telephone, please."
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

From what I've seen of Fox, they do a better job than most other networks in separating news from commentary.
Either you haven't seen much, or you are crazy. Fox claims a distinction between news and commentary, but all aspects of its news coverage are suffused with commentary. There is no line -- editorial content *is* what FNC is for.

There is one thing Fox really is fantastic at, and that's throwing tons of resources at coverage. For one thing, they simply have a ton of money. But most importantly, the real news networks gutted their news teams precisely because hard news no longer sells, entertainment and vitriol sell. Because Fox News *is* merely entertainment and vitriol, with no actual hard news, they never had to cut a body.
 
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Looks like the Kenyan is trying to come back out with "The Buffett Rule". Congratulations on killing just about every small business. Did you ever thinking about just writing a check to Parkersburg WV to contribute to the paying off of the public debt?

So you know more about business and taxes than Warren Buffett? Interesting. Are you Bill Gates or Carlos Slim? :rolleyes:
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Looks like Obama care might not be deficit neutral, shocking I know
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...-study-finds/2012/04/09/gIQAti1o6S_story.html

Yes, shocking a Bush administration hack came up with his own study that mysteriously showed a deficit. Never could have seen that coming.

In other news, former admin officials also insist that we still might be greeted as liberators in Iraq if we give it time....
 
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