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Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
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Hey now!! ( bow chicka wow wow)
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
A busy 3 hours on the south side of Chicago. Nary a peep from His Wonderfulness or the "reverands." I wonder why.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...north-side-west-side-20120407,0,3246953.story
A busy 3 hours on the south side of Chicago. Nary a peep from His Wonderfulness or the "reverands." I wonder why.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...north-side-west-side-20120407,0,3246953.story
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
Sorry, no conspiracy, just incompetence
They say it was a mistake that somehow got through 2-3 levels of oversight and since it didn't involve Lindsay Lohan or Charlie Sheen, I tend to believe them. Just a little shocked that our local USCHO Cafe media watchdog failed to jump on this one. Oh wait, it wasn't from Faux.
Sorry, no conspiracy, just incompetence
They say it was a mistake that somehow got through 2-3 levels of oversight and since it didn't involve Lindsay Lohan or Charlie Sheen, I tend to believe them. Just a little shocked that our local USCHO Cafe media watchdog failed to jump on this one. Oh wait, it wasn't from Faux.
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
Long story short: I don't believe them. Yes, their explanation is possible, but not probable. This is the outfit which continues to inflict Al Sharpton on the American people in the guise of a "talk show." As long as he is dominating this sad episode, he should be benched. How ludicrous is it for him to open a show by saying (in effect): "The Trayvon Martin story continues to dominate the news. As usual, I was in the middle of it, stirring up as much racial hatred as possible. With a report on my day, here's NBC's Joe Doaks." Any "news" organization that would permit this nonsense does not deserve the benefit of the doubt on "editgate." And I'm further disinclined to give NBC the benefit of the doubt given their behavior years ago with a report on the alleged dangers of GM side saddle pickup gas tanks. Remember? They were trying to show that the gas tanks were prone to exploding in collisions and when no explosions happened in their tests, they put explosives in the tanks. They exploded then, of course. NBC then ran the footage without bothering to mention they caused the explosins, not short comings in the design of the gas tanks.
We have seen a significant effort by the MSM to support the narrative that Zimmerman is an out of control racist who shot Trayvon Martin because of racial animous. That's possible, of course, and a big part of what the grand jury and special prosecutor will be exploring. Meanwhile, we're left with eyeball examination of surveillance tape in which lay people (like Chris Mathews, another NBC employee) say: "His nose doesn't look broken to me." Eventually the networks played enhanced versions of the tape and son of a gun, Zimmerman appears to have lacerations on the back of his head. Or audio "experts" using techniques not generally approved for use in trials, proclaiming the voice calling for help on the 911 tape is "probably" not Zimmerman. And you know what the implications are if it isn't. That the voice is Trayvon Martin's and Zimmerman gunned him down in cold blood. Other audio "experts" contest the conclusion that the voice isn't Zimmerman's and question the techniques used to draw that conclusion. Please recall the audio "experts" who announced with "90% certainty" that there was a fourth shot fired in Dealey Plaza. Ultimately, a musician in an Ohio band discovered the tape these "experts" were analyzing wasn't from Dealey Plaza and couldn't have had any "impulses" from rifle shots on it.
I think it's clear the MSM have not been balanced in their coverage here. It's bad enough a young man lost his life, they seem to want to make it worse by playing up anything that furthers the racial animus narrative. Again, that may be the sad truth here. But it's too early to tell. And Zimmerman's history seems to argue against it. In a situation like this, media need to exercise their very best judgement so as not to inflame feelings on either side. So far, they haven't done it.
Long story short: I don't believe them. Yes, their explanation is possible, but not probable. This is the outfit which continues to inflict Al Sharpton on the American people in the guise of a "talk show." As long as he is dominating this sad episode, he should be benched. How ludicrous is it for him to open a show by saying (in effect): "The Trayvon Martin story continues to dominate the news. As usual, I was in the middle of it, stirring up as much racial hatred as possible. With a report on my day, here's NBC's Joe Doaks." Any "news" organization that would permit this nonsense does not deserve the benefit of the doubt on "editgate." And I'm further disinclined to give NBC the benefit of the doubt given their behavior years ago with a report on the alleged dangers of GM side saddle pickup gas tanks. Remember? They were trying to show that the gas tanks were prone to exploding in collisions and when no explosions happened in their tests, they put explosives in the tanks. They exploded then, of course. NBC then ran the footage without bothering to mention they caused the explosins, not short comings in the design of the gas tanks.
We have seen a significant effort by the MSM to support the narrative that Zimmerman is an out of control racist who shot Trayvon Martin because of racial animous. That's possible, of course, and a big part of what the grand jury and special prosecutor will be exploring. Meanwhile, we're left with eyeball examination of surveillance tape in which lay people (like Chris Mathews, another NBC employee) say: "His nose doesn't look broken to me." Eventually the networks played enhanced versions of the tape and son of a gun, Zimmerman appears to have lacerations on the back of his head. Or audio "experts" using techniques not generally approved for use in trials, proclaiming the voice calling for help on the 911 tape is "probably" not Zimmerman. And you know what the implications are if it isn't. That the voice is Trayvon Martin's and Zimmerman gunned him down in cold blood. Other audio "experts" contest the conclusion that the voice isn't Zimmerman's and question the techniques used to draw that conclusion. Please recall the audio "experts" who announced with "90% certainty" that there was a fourth shot fired in Dealey Plaza. Ultimately, a musician in an Ohio band discovered the tape these "experts" were analyzing wasn't from Dealey Plaza and couldn't have had any "impulses" from rifle shots on it.
I think it's clear the MSM have not been balanced in their coverage here. It's bad enough a young man lost his life, they seem to want to make it worse by playing up anything that furthers the racial animus narrative. Again, that may be the sad truth here. But it's too early to tell. And Zimmerman's history seems to argue against it. In a situation like this, media need to exercise their very best judgement so as not to inflame feelings on either side. So far, they haven't done it.
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Here's a crime about as depraved as it gets, yet the odds are you haven't seen or read anything about it. I wonder why. Certainly no soothing words from His Teleprompterness. Nor any acknowledgement from "The Reverands." What could explain the silence?
http://townhall.com/columnists/doug...tes_and_it_wont_make_national_news/page/full/
Here's a crime about as depraved as it gets, yet the odds are you haven't seen or read anything about it. I wonder why. Certainly no soothing words from His Teleprompterness. Nor any acknowledgement from "The Reverands." What could explain the silence?
http://townhall.com/columnists/doug...tes_and_it_wont_make_national_news/page/full/
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Foxton
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Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
I do find it impressive that you were able to ride in on a dead horse.
And yet False news hasn't had much if anything on it either.
I do find it impressive that you were able to ride in on a dead horse.
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
It happens every day - it's not news, its a statistic.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
Just like how women can get away with domestic violence. At work they show some of those training videos, and they pretty much said in the video (paraphrasing) although it does happen that women abuse men, because of statistics, we're going to be sexist.
Just like how women can get away with domestic violence. At work they show some of those training videos, and they pretty much said in the video (paraphrasing) although it does happen that women abuse men, because of statistics, we're going to be sexist.
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
Now that Jerry Lewis has been fired by MDA, perhaps we can organize a telethon for monomania and get him to host it.
Now that Jerry Lewis has been fired by MDA, perhaps we can organize a telethon for monomania and get him to host it.
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
Meanwhile, nothing to see here. Move along.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/0...killed-in-spat-over-sneakers/?test=latestnews
Meanwhile, nothing to see here. Move along.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/0...killed-in-spat-over-sneakers/?test=latestnews
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
Sort of like the Nobama Justice Department: Intimidation of white voters by black thugs is NOT a violation of the Voting Rights Act and won't be investigated, let alone prosecuted.
Sort of like the Nobama Justice Department: Intimidation of white voters by black thugs is NOT a violation of the Voting Rights Act and won't be investigated, let alone prosecuted.
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
I don't tend to believe them.
More than one person listened to the whole tape and, given their profession, knew that omitting the question completely changed the context.
Do I believe it was incompetence that led to the issues with Murdoch's UK papers? No. Do I believe it was incompetence that led this to occur. No.
Anybody that says "Only Fox News would twist/change facts to emphasize their viewpoint" is terribly naive.
I don't tend to believe them.
More than one person listened to the whole tape and, given their profession, knew that omitting the question completely changed the context.
Do I believe it was incompetence that led to the issues with Murdoch's UK papers? No. Do I believe it was incompetence that led this to occur. No.
Anybody that says "Only Fox News would twist/change facts to emphasize their viewpoint" is terribly naive.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
Jerry Lewis has actually done something since the Dean Martin break-up?
Jerry Lewis has actually done something since the Dean Martin break-up?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
I have no idea about the case at hand, but the thing that makes Fox unique among the major networks is exactly that: not only their history of twisting and even changing facts to support their viewpoint, but the whole idea of having a major "news" organization formally chartered to purvey only one side. It's entirely possible that CBS etc. have an editorial bias, and that it's reflected in their coverage. I'll grant that. But CBS wasn't founded expressly as the propaganda arm for a major party as Fox News was. To say so isn't naive, it's just an understanding of who created Fox News, when, and for what purpose.
The journalism world is chock full of minor and niche organizations that were founded as purely partisan outlets. Nobody reading Salon or Kos or watching MSNBC or RT should have any illusions about that. Arguably, the thing that makes Fox News unique is that it has been so successful. They do the same things that the minnows have always done, but they do them so well that they've gained such an enormous audience that they are mistaken to be an actual news site rather than a party house organ.
Nor is that unprecedented. In the early history of the Republic all newspapers were like that. This is just the first time a TV network was like that. And judging by copycats like MSNBC, it won't be the last.
I have no idea about the case at hand, but the thing that makes Fox unique among the major networks is exactly that: not only their history of twisting and even changing facts to support their viewpoint, but the whole idea of having a major "news" organization formally chartered to purvey only one side. It's entirely possible that CBS etc. have an editorial bias, and that it's reflected in their coverage. I'll grant that. But CBS wasn't founded expressly as the propaganda arm for a major party as Fox News was. To say so isn't naive, it's just an understanding of who created Fox News, when, and for what purpose.
The journalism world is chock full of minor and niche organizations that were founded as purely partisan outlets. Nobody reading Salon or Kos or watching MSNBC or RT should have any illusions about that. Arguably, the thing that makes Fox News unique is that it has been so successful. They do the same things that the minnows have always done, but they do them so well that they've gained such an enormous audience that they are mistaken to be an actual news site rather than a party house organ.
Nor is that unprecedented. In the early history of the Republic all newspapers were like that. This is just the first time a TV network was like that. And judging by copycats like MSNBC, it won't be the last.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
He was great in "King of Comedy."
FlagDUDE08
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Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!
Granted FOX News sponsors many of the talk radio stations (ABC does one of the alternative ones here). Rush Limbaugh was also the highest rated talk show host on radio (not sure if he still is after recent happenings, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has since gained popularity), so maybe people want conservative alternatives. They're probably sick of liberal bias, whether editorial or in actual reporting. FOX Snooze was the only source of that at the time, so people watched it, and it became very popular.
Granted FOX News sponsors many of the talk radio stations (ABC does one of the alternative ones here). Rush Limbaugh was also the highest rated talk show host on radio (not sure if he still is after recent happenings, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has since gained popularity), so maybe people want conservative alternatives. They're probably sick of liberal bias, whether editorial or in actual reporting. FOX Snooze was the only source of that at the time, so people watched it, and it became very popular.
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People get too wrapped up over Faux News. Look, they exist to make money. Its easier to play into a persecution complex for conservatives than it is for liberals. Naturally paranoid and angry people are going to buy into that. If Murdoch's corporate people (the ones not under arrest right now) showed him an analysis that flaming liberalism would bring in more revenue, he'd switch programming overnight. Think about it, if you started a "McCain wasn't born in the US, he was born in Panama outside of the Canal Zone" or "The Canal Zone is not US territory anymore so he's disqualified" few lefties would bite on this one. Far easier to cover stories about that newly discovered Kenyan birth certificate.
Where Fox did have an impact was when they (and right wing talk radio) were the only game in town to get a rumor into the mainstream news media. That was helpful in setting a narrative, but with the advent of the internet and social media those advantages have been eliminated. Consider this: IIRC Fox cable came about in the early 90's (I realize the network is from 1986 I think). Since that time, the Dems have won 3 out of 5 Presidential elections and outvoted the GOP in 4 out of 5. Before Fox came along, they'd lost 5 out of 6.
People get too wrapped up over Faux News. Look, they exist to make money. Its easier to play into a persecution complex for conservatives than it is for liberals. Naturally paranoid and angry people are going to buy into that. If Murdoch's corporate people (the ones not under arrest right now) showed him an analysis that flaming liberalism would bring in more revenue, he'd switch programming overnight. Think about it, if you started a "McCain wasn't born in the US, he was born in Panama outside of the Canal Zone" or "The Canal Zone is not US territory anymore so he's disqualified" few lefties would bite on this one. Far easier to cover stories about that newly discovered Kenyan birth certificate.
Where Fox did have an impact was when they (and right wing talk radio) were the only game in town to get a rumor into the mainstream news media. That was helpful in setting a narrative, but with the advent of the internet and social media those advantages have been eliminated. Consider this: IIRC Fox cable came about in the early 90's (I realize the network is from 1986 I think). Since that time, the Dems have won 3 out of 5 Presidential elections and outvoted the GOP in 4 out of 5. Before Fox came along, they'd lost 5 out of 6.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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That makes sense, though. What Rush and Coulter and Drudge and Fox do is bend the head of the loony right down to pleasure itself. But that also means the right has become completely inward-looking and incapable of self-criticism, compromise, and growth. Their inevitable cycle is Purge Apostates --> Withdraw Inwards --> Lose Election --> Blame Everyone But Yourself --> Purge Apostates. That's how you wind up primarying Orrin Hatch for not being right wing enough!
That makes sense, though. What Rush and Coulter and Drudge and Fox do is bend the head of the loony right down to pleasure itself. But that also means the right has become completely inward-looking and incapable of self-criticism, compromise, and growth. Their inevitable cycle is Purge Apostates --> Withdraw Inwards --> Lose Election --> Blame Everyone But Yourself --> Purge Apostates. That's how you wind up primarying Orrin Hatch for not being right wing enough!
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A: What is written on the doors of all the bathroom stalls in Washington?
did I get it right??
A: What is written on the doors of all the bathroom stalls in Washington?
did I get it right??
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