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Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

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Wyoming's state slogan should match their stupid signs: "high winds possible".

Every ****ing day I spent there featured winds of at least 25-35 mph, and often gusts over 50 mph.

I also saw a gigantic wind farm with at least sixty turbines. I think the whole state should be a ****ing wind farm; it could probably power ten other states easily.
 
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Priceless said:
Well, those guns are in the hunting section of various websites, including the NRA.


Mission?
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take a closer look and you'll see the text is about "military scenarios" etc. not hunting for animals.

These guns are for training (survival/apocalypse nuts), target shooting, and killing people. Let's be honest: nobody is going hunting for anything but people with these things.
 
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geezer said:
take a closer look and you'll see the text is about "military scenarios" etc. not hunting for animals.

These guns are for training (survival/apocalypse nuts), target shooting, and killing people. Let's be honest: nobody is going hunting for anything but people with these things.
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Then you'd better talk to those companies, because they are marketing those weapons to hunters...

Personally, I prefer to use a small nuke when I go hunting. Kill and cook the animal in one shot.
 
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Priceless said:
Then you'd better talk to those companies, because they are marketing those weapons to hunters...
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I believe they're marketed to hunters. I just don't think they're marketed for hunting. Most often, the apocolypse nuts/gun collectors are also hunters so it would make sense to put them all in one catalogue.

I realize how stupid that sounds, but my point is that machine guns are not marketed as (animal) hunting guns. It just isn't done, it would be idiotic.
 
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Look, I've posted about how far off the reservation the NRA is. How shrill and conspiratorial they've become. But whether Priceless and the rest of the libs like it or not, Americans have a right to own guns. it's in the constitution and the Supreme Court has affirmed it.
 
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Old Pio said:
Look, I've posted about how far off the reservation the NRA is. How shrill and conspiratorial they've become.
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this may be true, but it works. They were credited in some quarters with costing Albert Gore jr. the presidency by tilting a few Mason/Dixon area states, I forget the details but they have wielded a lot of power with their shrill conspiracies.
 
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Bakunin said:
Wyoming's state slogan should match their stupid signs: "high winds possible".

Every ****ing day I spent there featured winds of at least 25-35 mph, and often gusts over 50 mph.

I also saw a gigantic wind farm with at least sixty turbines. I think the whole state should be a ****ing wind farm; it could probably power ten other states easily.
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Well, you know why Wyoming is so windy?

Because Nebraska sucks and Utah blows!
 
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Old Pio said:
Look, I've posted about how far off the reservation the NRA is. How shrill and conspiratorial they've become. But whether Priceless and the rest of the libs like it or not, Americans have a right to own guns. it's in the constitution and the Supreme Court has affirmed it.
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I have a much harder position on this issue than many. And I totally agree with you.

Folks should absolutely allowed to own guns if for no other reason than its in the constitution. But even further the founding fathers were right in putting it in there as the rationale for its inclusion is valid as much as ever.

Having said that...the rub is that there are interpretations for most everything. Look at how the bible is often interpreted. So the goal should be to push for preserving the spirit of the constitution (the ability to defend the homeland) and what's most healthy for American society...rather than what's the most extreme personal freedom (and most danger for others) imaginable.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Folks should absolutely allowed to own guns if for no other reason than its in the constitution.
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Who hacked this account? I thought 5mn-major was the guy that was complaining about having to drive through a hail of gunfire down I-394 every day.;)
 
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5mn_Major said:
I have a much harder position on this issue than many. And I totally agree with you.

Folks should absolutely allowed to own guns if for no other reason than its in the constitution. But even further the founding fathers were right in putting it in there as the rationale for its inclusion is valid as much as ever.

Having said that...the rub is that there are interpretations for most everything. Look at how the bible is often interpreted. So the goal should be to push for preserving the spirit of the constitution (the ability to defend the homeland) and what's most healthy for American society...rather than what's the most extreme personal freedom (and most danger for others) imaginable.
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I'm not a gun guy, but from my perspective there are already hundreds (thousands?) of laws pertaining to guns. What kind can be owned, who can own them, where they can be taken, etc. And I'm not convinced new laws whould have made a difference in the Trayvon Martin case or at Columbine. And I'm just not convinced it's "extreme" to allow qualified individual Americans to exercise a right freely and unambiguously adduced in the Constitution.

I'm not suggesting you're suggesting guns should be "banned." To do that would require asking the same question about we'd have to ask about illegals. Okay, we've banned the sale of guns, what do we do about the 200 million or so that are already out there? In the case of illegals, suppose we absolutely stop them from coming in. What do we do about the 20 million or so who are already here?
 
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That said, outlawing guns would be about as effective as outlawing cars. As long as people get extensive training, go ahead and use them. Just keep them away from kids. To use the car metaphor again, we require extensive training in how to drive and we don't let kids behind the wheel.
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And still OP decides to attack me...whatever.
 
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geezer said:
this may be true, but it works. They were credited in some quarters with costing Albert Gore jr. the presidency by tilting a few Mason/Dixon area states, I forget the details but they have wielded a lot of power with their shrill conspiracies.
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I remember. In a close race, I'd imagine they can still affect the outcome. Still, when Wayne LaPierre refers to murdered ATF agents as "jackbooted government thugs," I say they're off the reservation. And probably an acute embarrassment to most members.
 
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geezer said:
Who hacked this account? I thought 5mn-major was the guy that was complaining about having to drive through a hail of gunfire down I-394 every day.;)
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No...comments like that are thrown out there by those who have a hard time with normal fact based discussion.

As long as you go through an appropriate security process...you're free to have a gun in your home. Frankly it would be less of a big deal to mandate that folks have a gun in their home. Then everyone has the choice to make as to whether they are to put themselves at risk based on homes they enter.

But the allowance of firearms in public spaces absolutely should be outlawed and automatic weapons banned. They do not further the constitutional purpose at all...yet do endanger American society.
 
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I find it interesting that we all seem to have come together in the middle on the issue of gun control, even while (or because?) the issue has been so quiet lately. It was very divisive a while back. Let's go ahead and do what 5mn suggests. I quit my NRA membership back when Big Bill Clinton was still president.
 
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geezer said:
I find it interesting that we all seem to have come together in the middle on the issue of gun control, even while (or because?) the issue has been so quiet lately. It was very divisive a while back. Let's go ahead and do what 5mn suggests. I quit my NRA membership back when Big Bill Clinton was still president.
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When the NRA said the ATF and FBI are jack-booted thugs?

Look, I'd rather people didn't have guns. I'd rather people didn't eat the processed crap for sale at McDonald's. I'd rather people didn't buy junk made in China. Unfortunately, just like Calvin, I do not possess the ultimate power in the Universe. All I ask is that if you do feel the need to own a gun, have the training so you know how to handle it and keep it away from kids. I'd also like it if you pointed it somewhere other than at me. If that makes me an anti-gun, terrorist-loving hippie, so be it.
 
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Priceless said:
All I ask is that if you do feel the need to own a gun, have the training so you know how to handle it and keep it away from kids. I'd also like it if you pointed it somewhere other than at me.
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Exactly. We all seem to agree on that.
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

This Monday thru Wednesday is the SCOTUS hearings on Obummercare.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
This Monday thru Wednesday is the SCOTUS hearings on Obummercare.
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With that in mind:

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