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Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2

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In other news, 14% of Americans are complete assclowns.

There's a great quote in the comments: "prejudice does not cease being prejudice because it is widely held."
 
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Yeah, stop getting your history from right wing morons and start listening to left wing morons instead.

Kepler's the kind of individual who gets all of his news from NPR and then congratulates himself on how enlightened he is. Truth is, if you're only listening to NPR and shutting out Fox, you're a dope. If you're only listening to Fox and shutting out NPR, you're also a dope. Dopes of a different color, whee.
 
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If you're watching Fox at all, and it isn't between noon and 3pm, you're a dope.

It's not about teh ideology. It's about teh dumbness.
 
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Ridiculous. So tolerant of other ideas and concepts, we are.
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Ideas are only worthy of toleration when they are embedded logically in arguments.

I'd love to see an intelligent conservative news show. What you get on Fox are broadcasts aimed at folks who've been lobotomized, shutter island-style.

MSNBC has Ed Schultz, and CNN still sends paychecks to Rick Sanchez, so it's not like they don't have company. But, as with almost everything else, Fox takes it to another level.
 
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Ideas are only worthy of toleration when they are embedded logically in arguments.

I'd love to see an intelligent conservative news show. What you get on Fox are broadcasts aimed at folks who've been lobotomized, shutter island-style.

MSNBC has Ed Schultz, and CNN still sends paychecks to Rick Sanchez, so it's not like they don't have company. But, as with almost everything else, Fox takes it to another level.
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I watch Schultz occasionally, and I don't have a problem with him other than that I disagree with him far more frequently than I agree with him. I keep an open mind about the beliefs and feelings of people who are not like me. You should try it sometime. I've read "The Audacity of Hope" and I'm about halfway through "Going Rogue." Sadly, I don't know anyone else personally who would be willing to read both.

That's why I don't really have too much of a problem with FR's interpretation of "Cordoba," but I believe the other interpretation is just as relevant and needs to be taken into account.
 
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I've seen Schultz's show. He's more a party hack than a principled liberal. On MSNBC, at least the nighttime folks are consistently liberal, whether that means defending the prez, or poking fun at him. Schultz is more like Hannity, but with much poorer media skills.
 
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Red Cloud said:
I watch Schultz occasionally, and I don't have a problem with him other than that I disagree with him far more frequently than I agree with him. I keep an open mind about the beliefs and feelings of people who are not like me. You should try it sometime. I've read "The Audacity of Hope" and I'm about halfway through "Going Rogue." Sadly, I don't know anyone else personally who would be willing to read both.

That's why I don't really have too much of a problem with FR's interpretation of "Cordoba," but I believe the other interpretation is just as relevant and needs to be taken into account.
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I read The Audacity of Hope, Going Rogue's been sitting on my counter for around 6 months now. Don't think I'll ever get around to it.
 
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amherstblackbear said:
If you're watching Fox at all, and it isn't between noon and 3pm, you're a dope.

It's not about teh ideology. It's about teh dumbness.
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If you're watching Fox during the day you are most likely unemployed or an old retired guy, which really sums up the vast majority of conservative posters out here (exception made for Lynah since he's overseas).:D
 
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amherstblackbear said:
No, it's common sense

"Joe, the purple cat, likes the number 4" is an idea.
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If it weren't for my horse...

I have a feeling your casually tossed-out idea is going to haunt me to my grave. :eek: ;)

The idea of ideas has a special place in philosophical history, all the way from medieval fights over universals (that tree is real (that thing with branches), and "that tree" is real (a pointer to one particular thing with branches), but in what way is "tree" real?) to Russell's paradox (is "the set of all sets that are not members of themselves" a member of itself?).
 
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Of course MSNBC is rarely mentioned, in comparison to Fox News. Because MSNBC is an example of liberal excess, while Fox is an example of conservative excess. But liberals on the board (at least most) aren't going to moan about their sides excesses. But, take what they say about Fox and insert the appropriate liberal references, and it's the same thing basically. Or do it with CNN to a somewhat lesser extent.
 
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