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Obama 9 -- Its Been a Whole Year Now

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I don't really care one way or the other since I'm against the current health care bill and won't mind seeing it be defeated. However, consider that Norm Coleman didn't win the MN senate seat because MN voters were in love with him nor disgusted with what came before him, he won because when Wellstone died the Dems replaced him with a joke of a candidate.

He wasn't trailing by 30pts one month prior to the election.
 
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I thought 52% was a landslide and a mandate from the people? Maybe that only applies to Obama?

Pretty much the only folks that proclaimed that Obama was a god or a rockstar were conservatives. Which is odd because based on how long this senate race thing is getting dragged out, they seem to feel the same way about Brown.
 
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Pretty much the only folks that proclaimed that Obama was a god or a rockstar were conservatives. Which is odd because based on how long this senate race thing is getting dragged out, they seem to feel the same way about Brown.

Never said anything about god or rockstar just that folks on here were talking a mandate from the people with 52 or 53% of the vote. In fact I'd say Rufus still believes that?
 
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Never said anything about god or rockstar just that folks on here were talking a mandate from the people with 52 or 53% of the vote. In fact I'd say Rufus still believes that?

Well, the Republicans think they have a mandate now just based on one Senate Special Election so................what difference does it make?
 
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Never said anything about god or rockstar just that folks on here were talking a mandate from the people with 52 or 53% of the vote. In fact I'd say Rufus still believes that?

Well, there's a difference in claiming a national mandate from a 52-53% victory in a national election, compared to claiming a national mandate from a 52-53% victory in Massachusetts.
 
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Never said anything about god or rockstar just that folks on here were talking a mandate from the people with 52 or 53% of the vote. In fact I'd say Rufus still believes that?

Never believed it here. Only people I recall talking about mandates were Repubs after their hero George Bush got 50.x or whatever percent of the general vote.
 
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Yet the money keeps flowing to Iraq and Afghanistan. Like a waterfall.

Remember when we were going to get out of those countries...arent we sending another 30k soldiers to Afghanistan? Peace Prize indeed!
 
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Remember when we were going to get out of those countries...arent we sending another 30k soldiers to Afghanistan? Peace Prize indeed!

They lied to us about that like they lie about everything else. You can't believe the President of the United States. Pretty sad.
 
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They lied to us about that like they lie about everything else. You can't believe the President of the United States. Pretty sad.

Yeah...is it really that hard? I mean there are large areas of New Orleans that are still in utter ruin and yet we are going to waste resources on two wars that we can't win?

I said it the other day...this country needs a Truman right now...sure Truman made mistakes (everyone does) but when he made a decision he took a step forward and did it. Half his party didn't want to desegregate the military (especially the Dixiecrats) and Truman himself said he had "Southern Leanings" when it came to blacks but yet he still made the executive order to do it. When General Marshall opposed recognizing Israel Truman not only still did it but he also made sure not to alienate Marshall and kept him around and always defending him. He may have been brash, he may said a lot of stupid stuff but for him "The Buck Stops Here" actually meant something. That is what this country needs right now, someone who will act and has respect for the country and his office...not another two-faced blowhard.
 
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It'll be interesting to see what he says about Guantanomo (sp?) and Iraq tonight, if anything. Cause he lied about both of them.

Afghanistan is comical because the Russians already tried that one and failed and we tried to do it on the cheap and failed and now we're trying to infuse (surge) more into it and fail again. That place is a cesspool.
 
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It'll be interesting to see what he says about Guantanomo (sp?) and Iraq tonight, if anything. Cause he lied about both of them.

Afghanistan is comical because the Russians already tried that one and failed and we tried to do it on the cheap and failed and now we're trying to infuse (surge) more into it and fail again. That place is a cesspool.

Yeah, you would think we would learn from history...apparently the previous war in Afghanistan, Vietnam and Korea weren't enough to convince us that sometimes it is better not to get bogged down into this crap...oh wait I forgot no politician cares about that anymore the Warhawks have taken control!

I am sure his speech will be filled with lots of bs rhetoric...lots of crap about how the divisiveness is killing us and how the failure of the Health Care Reform needs to act as some sort of proof that now is the time to work together and blah blah blah. He will make mention of how he is still working on the promises he has yet to fulfill and then we wont hear about them again until next year around this time.

The Obama of the Primaries would give a vastly different speech. Too bad that guy was assassinated after a few months. He saw all the bs commentators complain about Cash For Clunkers even though it completely worked and instead of doing what he did before and calling them out on the BS, he turtled Matt Cooke style and gave up. That wasn't the man I voted for, and if the election was this November that isnt the man I will vote for again.
 
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EMAIL OF THE DAY!!!!



Are you a Democrat, a Republican, or a Redneck?


Here is a little test that will help you decide.
The answer can be found by posing the following question:
You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you.
You are carrying a Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP, and you are an expert shot.
You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
What do you do?
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THINK CAREFULLY AND THEN SCROLL DOWN:
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Democrat's Answer:
Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the pistol have appropriate safety built into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? Should I call 9-1-1? Why is this street so deserted? We need to raise taxes, have paint and weed day and make this happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior. This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for few days and try to come to a consensus.


.....................................................
Republican's Answer:
BANG!


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Redneck's Answer:
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG ! Click . . . (Sounds of reloading) BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click
Daughter: “Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hydrashocks?”
Son: “Can I shoot the next one?”
Wife: “You ain't taking that to the taxidermist!”
 
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Well, there's a difference in claiming a national mandate from a 52-53% victory in a national election, compared to claiming a national mandate from a 52-53% victory in Massachusetts.

tru'dat!

an R victory by 52-53 to 48-47 in MA = 74-75 to 25-26 nationally.;)
 
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Nuclear energy and offshore drilling? Is this like a Terminator version of Obama...The OBAMANATOR? :eek:

Half hour in and no mention of Health Care...maybe he isnt a moron for one day!
 
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Wait...did he just say he is going to pull out our combat troops from Iraq by the end of August or did I hear him wrong?
 
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It'll be interesting to see what he says about Guantanomo (sp?) and Iraq tonight, if anything. Cause he lied about both of them.

Afghanistan is comical because the Russians already tried that one and failed and we tried to do it on the cheap and failed and now we're trying to infuse (surge) more into it and fail again. That place is a cesspool.

Please, Scooby, tell us more about how much you know nothing about Afghanistan. I'm so intrigued and want to probe ever deeper into the ignorance.
 
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First off, let me say I fell asleep 20 minutes into the clown's State of the Union. Not because I didn't want to hear what he had to say, but because I was exhausted. I did hear at one point he was in favor of a new generation of nuclear power plants - kudos to him if he's serious, but I think he is lying.

And what about Pelosi lol? Did she have a spring under her butt? She was like a jack-in-the-box, jumping up high and proud every time Obama cranked the wheel... it was very funny/disturbing seeing one of our national "leaders" turned into such a puppet....

Anyway....

You're a little flawed in your logic. The country is split in half on whether they want Obama's agenda or not. That's never enough to get anything done. Many of Bush's successes were done through reconcillation. Example:

– The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01]
– The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03]
– Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06]
– The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05]

Scoobs, everyone knows you are uneducated and stupid. Let me tell you why this is so in this particular case. The "reconciliation" process is meant ONLY as a budgetary tool. If it has happened in the past, that is why it has happened. This will be the first time in history the "nuclear option" will be used for something other than it was intended for. I won't contest all your citations, even though I should, knowing you they're probably all wrong. But it's irrelevant. Reconciliation has never been used the way the libs are threatening to do so in the history of the Union.

Funny, cause polls in Massachusetts say exactly the opposite, that they don't think Obama's been forceful enough, nor gone far enough in his policy goals.

But keep on believing what you want to believe, if it makes you feel all superior at the end of the day.

Someone's a wounded moron, lol.

Some of Obama's recent steps may be questionable in different ways...but the whole Brown episode is waay over done.

All Mass's politicians are liberal...and the 'conservatives' who aren't moderates are shown the door very quickly. Even one's like Romney who are a serious candidate for president.

Its very common for voters to look for balance...even in 2008 after the Bush era, many new Republicans were voted in as a balance to what would be an upcoming heavy Dem majority in the govt. In the Bush aftermath, I was ready to punish Republicans...but voted for new Republicans for this overall reason.

And he won with what 52%? That equates to a relatively small swing of voters.

So Brown's election was not a surprise...in fact piling on with more Dems at this point would have been. And a huge number of Mass voters were trying to do just that.

Don't be stupid. Brown was 30 points behind a month left before the elections - it the bluest of blue states. And all those voters in Coakley's camp bailed on her when Brown got his message out - again, in the bluest of blue states. And he won with 52%, correct, a solid victory nearing a landslide. 7 more days and he would have had 60% of the vote.

The only thing it proves is that a huge number of Mass voters rejected liberalism.

"combat troops" now we'll have 50,000 "advisors" there. :rolleyes:

No. Everyone we have there are all combatants, not advisors. :)
 
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Scoobs, everyone knows you are uneducated and stupid. Let me tell you why this is so in this particular case. The "reconciliation" process is meant ONLY as a budgetary tool. If it has happened in the past, that is why it has happened. This will be the first time in history the "nuclear option" will be used for something other than it was intended for. I won't contest all your citations, even though I should, knowing you they're probably all wrong. But it's irrelevant. Reconciliation has never been used the way the libs are threatening to do so in the history of the Union.

And the filibuster has never been used more than it has been used now. That being said my point wasn't that the Dems should use it for this anyway. I was pointing out that Bush didn't get anything passed through Congress either even though he had a Republican majority. Oh, and I copied those directly from the record so they're accurate.

Thanks for the personal attack. I enjoyed it.
 
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