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Obama 9 -- Its Been a Whole Year Now

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If anyone follows Pamela Geller, who has a right wing blog called Atlas Shrugs...dear God. What a meltdown on Joy Behar's show. Telling Ron Reagan that he didn't know his father and that he hadn't met him.

Too funny.
 
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Foxton said:
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Sarah Palin is a ****ing retard. ~4:40

Please, please, please, please get the GOP nomination for 2012, oh please.
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she is a waste of oxygen. charisma with a teleprompter? to me that defines her entire 15 minutes of fame since the RNC speech.

apparently if she wins president she wont ever be using one to give a speech? she is going to need a lot of hands to write on.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Sure, Moon-Bats are great. But, it's not the Moon-Bats who have everyone in the country convinced that America elected the second coming of Chairman Mao. Or, that America is converting to socialism. Sure, the Moon-Bats are crazy about clean air, clean water, and whacking as many unborn kids as they can but they failed at making the country scared of GW Bush.
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You might be correct, Scooby, but just answer the question: what party are you?

Why are you afraid to say your party affiliation?

FWIW, I am registered indy. :)
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
He's said plenty of times he's not in either party to the best of my knowledge.
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No one here is a Republican; almost everyone is an Independent (or, more correctly: Unenrolled). Me? I'm one of the few people who admit to belonging to a political party. Once upon a time I was the leader of the local Democratic Party. What's amazing is that with all the people who are apparently unenrolled, 3rd party candidates never seem to get anywhere. :confused:
 
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Priceless said:
No one here is a Republican; almost everyone is an Independent (or, more correctly: Unenrolled). Me? I'm one of the few people who admit to belonging to a political party. Once upon a time I was the leader of the local Democratic Party. What's amazing is that with all the people who are apparently unenrolled, 3rd party candidates never seem to get anywhere. :confused:
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Correct. I am not a registered independent either. Unenrolled it is.
 
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I am a registered Democrat so I can vote in primaries.

But its as if I am picking to be stabbed in the front or the back. I trust the Democrats to be untrustworthy in ways I'll expect. I have infinite respect for the Republicans to come up with nefarious schemes that even I don't see coming.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Correct. I am not a registered independent either. Unenrolled it is.
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It was interesting to learn during the recent Massachusetts election that being unenrolled there requires some proactive action on the part of the voter. The states I'm familiar with require some indication of a preference, and that's it.

As long as we're hanging out our laundry here, I'm a Repubican, although I have voted for Democrats along the line. One such vote was cast for J. Bennett Johnston, a conservative Louisiana senator. My vote was based on his answer to a question I posed: will you vote to extend consideration of the Equal Rights Amendment? He looked me in the eye and answered unequivocally "no." Naturally, when the matter came up in the senate, he voted "yes." I subsequently told him I'd been lied to on TV, in print and on the radio, but never face to face!
 
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Old Pio said:
It a free county and you (and Major) can continue to insist that CBS hasn't and doesn't exhibit bias in its reporting--notwithstanding ample evidence to the contrary.
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Hey Pavlov, I never came to the defense of CBS. For all I know they're just as you say, but I never go to CBS for my news (I'm surprised you would given what you say about them) and I am not in a position to argue either way. I simply presented a logical point that one probably shouldn't bow down to your claim given the sampling size you provided, especially given the time frame involved. And my point still stands - for all I know there may in fact be examples of right-leaning reporting during the same timeline and more than likely their archives are dominated by a neutral viewpoint. Maybe, maybe not but simply playing devil's advocate doesn't make me a CBS toadie.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Hey Pavlov, I never said what I think about CBS. For all I know they're just as you say, but I never go to CBS for my news (I'm surprised you would given what you say about them) and I am not in a position to argue either way. I simply presented a logical point that one probably shouldn't bow down to your claim given the sampling size you provided, especially given the time frame involved. And my point still stands - for all I know the analyst carries an extreme bias of his own, there may in fact be examples of right-leaning reporting during the same timeline and more than likely their archives are dominated by a neutral viewpoint. Maybe, maybe not but simply playing devil's advocate doesn't make me a CBS toadie.
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Pavlov? Sample size? I watch CBS news? Where do you get this stuff? The examples of CBS bias I provided were extensively reported IN MEDIA OTHER THAN CBS--get it, genius. Your position seems to argue that ignorance of the examples I cited means they can't be true. And this silly insistence that there "must" be some unbiased reporting, and that lets them off the hook for the bias is nonsense. Bias isn't a factor in some stories: earthquakes, fires, Super Bowls, weather, space exploration, White House easter egg rolls etc. So, sure, their bias isn't on display in a majority of stories. What of it? But they are and have historically been biased and no amount of wishful thinking on your part can change that.

Let me give you one example. After the Hunger in America "documentary" I referred to aired, powerful Texas congressman Henry B. Gonzales went ape, accusing CBS of anti-Latino bias for putting a dead Latino baby on the air and suggesting the baby died of malnutritiion. He held hearings, and the various groups MALDEF, LULAC, etc went on a Jihad against CBS accusing them of deliberately making Latinos look bad, etc. What emerged from the kerfuffle was CBS' lame defense that "well yes, THAT baby didn't die of malnutrition, but there babies that do." Fine, film one of those babies and put those pictures on the air.

You can apply whatever standards you wish, but what you can't do is explain away their amply demonstrated bias over many years. For someone who claims not to have a dog in this hunt, you continue to argue by implication rather strenuously that they aren't biased.

Perhaps you should take a moment or two to read up on the examples I provided rather than categorically dismissing them as a product of my bias. If you did and if you knew as much about what constitutes journalism as you evidently think, you would likely conclude that CBS has a lot to answer for.
 
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Pavlov? Sample size? I watch CBS news? Where do you get this stuff? The examples of CBS bias I provided were extensively reported IN MEDIA OTHER THAN CBS--get it, genius. Your position seems to argue that ignorance of the examples I cited means they can't be true.
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Yes, Pavlov. Because if someone doesn't genuflect in your direction you assume they have some hidden liberal agenda and instinctively begin spouting nonsense. Try reading what I actually write next time because I never said your examples were made up.

For the 3rd time my point is given your sampling size relative to the time frame involved (30-40 years?) it would be presumptuous for anyone with half their wits to: 1) Assume this type of reporting is "amply demonstrated" over and over again 2) Assume the other side has never made its way onto their airwaves and finally 3) Dismiss the possibility that CBS is more often neutral than not.

And I'll repeat the following - your analysis of their total history may in fact be spot on - but I aint buying it just because you say so or because you named a handful of examples without context or relativity. If that's not good enough for you, fine save another tantrum and I'll self-label myself a no-good liberal. :rolleyes:
 
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Slap Shot said:
Yes, Pavlov. Because if someone doesn't genuflect in your direction you assume they have some hidden liberal agenda and instinctively begin spouting nonsense. Try reading what I actually write next time because I never said your examples were made up.

For the 3rd time my point is given your sampling size relative to the time frame involved (30-40 years?) it would be presumptuous for anyone with half their wits to: 1) Assume this type of reporting is "amply demonstrated" over and over again 2) Assume the other side has never made its way onto their airwaves and finally 3) Dismiss the possibility that CBS is more often neutral than not.

And I'll repeat the following - your analysis of their total history may in fact be spot on - but I aint buying it just because you say so or because you named a handful of examples without context or relativity. If that's not good enough for you, fine save another tantrum and I'll self-label myself a no-good liberal. :rolleyes:
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Why don't you just stick your fingers in your ears and say: nyah nyah nyah, I can't HEAR you. You've made a couple of references to bowing and genuflecting. You must have me confused with the president. Frankly I don't care anything about what your posture is and what you do when you're in that posture. No, of course you didn't suggest the examples I provided were made up, you just ignored them and changed the subject. Much easier than actually thinking about what I presented and responding to it.

You've given your "points" three times and each time they've been less relevant than the times before. Believe what you want to believe. Just don't claim that I haven't given evidence of CBS bias, because I have. It may not be sufficient to convince you (my guess is that none would be) that's your privelege. Just don't insult my intelligence with your pettifogging about an insufficient number of examples or lack of context or whatever other changes of subject you care to throw into the mix. As I said at the time, the examples I provided were off the top of my head not the result of research. They also were true, but you can't be troubled with finding that out for yourself. You're too busy being a defense lawyer for CBS.

How long an essay would meet your requirements of amply proving the point? 10K words, 20, 50, 100? Why not tell me so I can get to work producing it? I'm not asking you to "buy" anything, I guess I am asking you to have even a speck of knowledge on a subject before you begin braying at the top of your lungs. I suggest respectfully, again, that you inform yourself on these matters before continuing to reveal yourself as ignorant, and proud of it.
 
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I find it amusing that you both seem to think that if you word things just right the other person will suddenly see the light and admit they're wrong.
 
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Priceless said:
I find it amusing that you both seem to think that if you word things just right the other person will suddenly see the light and admit they're wrong.
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LOL. Yeah, just enough nuance and he'll collapse in a puddle of agreement.
You're suggesting that's not true? :D
 
You're so programmed to scream, "dirty liberal!" that you can't even recognize when someone isn't taking a liberal stance. I don't watch CBS news so why would I give a rip if you're criticizing them? I simply said 5 examples (again of which I've never doubted are real) of liberal bias over the course of 40 years isn't sufficient to make your point, that context and relativity do matter, and there's nothing ignorant nor uninformed about such a logical and practical devil's advocate approach to the subject matter. Stop pounding your chest, stomping your feet, take a deep breath, and then get over it buddy.

[edit] Priceless, I don't care if he admits to anything - I've not taken that type of viewpoint simply providing food for thought.
 
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