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Norwich university cadets 2014-2015

".....My point is that CONFIDENCE is everything when everything else is more or less equal. Now, will that work again next weekend vs. Platty? Only time will tell but just getting there for this young team is enormous. Congrats to the NU Women's hockey team!"

I haven't read a more self indulgent post in ages. I only copied part of it because the rest of it almost made me puke. While you seem to think you have zeroed in on the key to this victory, try to remember the oldest truism in hockey, which is that goaltending is critical to any team's success in the playoffs. A little puck luck goes a long way to helping a team win games, too. At the end of the day in any sport, the better team doesn't always win. I'd say most people that know the game would agree that is the case in this instance. I have no ties to Middlebury or Norwich. I just recognize the better team when I see it. You don't outshoot a team 32-17 if you haven't dominated play. The same thing happened last night north of the border with Western upsetting McGill 5-0 in their women's hockey national championship. Hot goaltending at one end and opportunistic scoring at the other end with the "better" team losing the game. Shots were 38-15 for McGill.
 
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I agree with Tjames(not shelfit). Middlebury certainly controlled that game and I felt they beat Norwich to the puck 75% of the time. Norwich was just as physical but unfortunately were called for the penalties. Middlebury lucked out and didn't have as many penalty calls. On a couple of occasions, Norwich had trouble getting the puck out of their zone to have a line change. Tired girls out there. Middlebury caught on quickly that Norwich was going to clear the puck out of the zone using the boards. The points just kept it in. The crowd was deafening and it was intense.
Kudo's to Norwich who took full advantage of any mistakes Middlebury made and were able to score on them. (Just to quote the Middlebury coach-two goals are good but have to get more than that to win).
Good Luck in New York! I know these women have been through many, many tournaments including National's and they will be pumped for this. Rematch of finals last year! GO CADETS!!!!!!!
 
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shelfit said:
".....My point is that CONFIDENCE is everything when everything else is more or less equal. Now, will that work again next weekend vs. Platty? Only time will tell but just getting there for this young team is enormous. Congrats to the NU Women's hockey team!"

I haven't read a more self indulgent post in ages. I only copied part of it because the rest of it almost made me puke. While you seem to think you have zeroed in on the key to this victory, try to remember the oldest truism in hockey, which is that goaltending is critical to any team's success in the playoffs. A little puck luck goes a long way to helping a team win games, too. At the end of the day in any sport, the better team doesn't always win. I'd say most people that know the game would agree that is the case in this instance. I have no ties to Middlebury or Norwich. I just recognize the better team when I see it. You don't outshoot a team 32-17 if you haven't dominated play. The same thing happened last night north of the border with Western upsetting McGill 5-0 in their women's hockey national championship. Hot goaltending at one end and opportunistic scoring at the other end with the "better" team losing the game. Shots were 38-15 for McGill.
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Goodness Shelfit..tell us how you really feel!
We should just give the championships to the team with the best record on paper...The hell with the rest of the game, Confidence, Coaching, Teamwork, Chemistry, Luck, Location, Experience...etc. The team that has the most shots on net should win or the best goaltender on paper should win.....Don't think so.
That is why these women should be commended. For shear drive, commitment and for THE LOVE OF THE GAME AND MAKING FRIENDS & EXPERIENCES THEY WILL HAVE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. Norwich won regardless if you don't think they are the "better team". Women Hockey Players Rock!!!!!
 
womanplayhockey said:
Goodness Shelfit..tell us how you really feel!
We should just give the championships to the team with the best record on paper...The hell with the rest of the game, Confidence, Coaching, Teamwork, Chemistry, Luck, Location, Experience...etc. The team that has the most shots on net should win or the best goaltender on paper should win.....Don't think so.
That is why these women should be commended. For shear drive, commitment and for THE LOVE OF THE GAME AND MAKING FRIENDS & EXPERIENCES THEY WILL HAVE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. Norwich won regardless if you don't think they are the "better team". Women Hockey Players Rock!!!!!
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That was my point, that the best team on paper didn't win even though they outplayed Norwich and that's the beauty of sports! Thanks for catching up. I never said Middlebury should have won. The team with more goals than the other team wins (being sarcastic, not condescending) regardless of the shots. The shots only show which team had more of the play but you've got to have both timely scoring and timely goaltending to win. Then I gave a similar example from the Canadian university championship to prove my point. I was saying confidence had less to do with the outcome than that other poster was stating. What you didn't realize is that you and I are more on the same page than you understood. Get it now?
 
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Well, I guess I won't be getting any respect from selfit anytime soon!

Look, this is a forum where one can express his/her thoughts as they see fit. There is an excess of opinion in most of the threads and this one is no exception. Why, there is even a little crowing here and there (all in good fun) but last I checked, free speech is still ok, even yours, so please continue to visit our humble thread selfit and give us your 2 cents.

Ok, so moving on to the big story which of course is the frozen four. Plattsburgh State will not be an easy opponent, but at least they won't be diving like Middlebury, which is why the penalties were so lopsided btw. Another fact is that Platty has several players that can really shoot the puck, and being on home ice, home town, home everything, it will be a tough battle, but not impossible. With any luck, a hot goaltender, and another superstar performance by Champagne or someone else, one never knows. Platty may even let their cockyness get to them too, like in the 2010 NCAA quarterfinals, when NU scored 2 goals in the final two minutes for the upset win, so it will be important to keep the score close.

NU has never played for 3rd in all of their frozen four appearances.

The wife is watching DWTS as I write so given all the distraction, thats it for tonight. :)
 
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NU FAN said:
Well, I guess I won't be getting any respect from selfit anytime soon!

Look, this is a forum where one can express his/her thoughts as they see fit. There is an excess of opinion in most of the threads and this one is no exception. Why, there is even a little crowing here and there (all in good fun) but last I checked, free speech is still ok, even yours, so please continue to visit our humble thread selfit and give us your 2 cents.

Ok, so moving on to the big story which of course is the frozen four. Plattsburgh State will not be an easy opponent, but at least they won't be diving like Middlebury, which is why the penalties were so lopsided btw. Another fact is that Platty has several players that can really shoot the puck, and being on home ice, home town, home everything, it will be a tough battle, but not impossible. With any luck, a hot goaltender, and another superstar performance by Champagne or someone else, one never knows. Platty may even let their cockyness get to them too, like in the 2010 NCAA quarterfinals, when NU scored 2 goals in the final two minutes for the upset win, so it will be important to keep the score close.

NU has never played for 3rd in all of their frozen four appearances.

The wife is watching DWTS as I write so given all the distraction, thats it for tonight. :)
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I respect everyone's opinion no matter which team they support. Frankly, I've always loved the underdog (who doesn't love a good underdog story) and I love it when there are upsets. It's really quite boring to see the same teams in the NCAA D3 playoffs every single year, so I'd love to see more upsets along the way. It's actually not good for the D3 game to have the same teams always in the playoffs, so having a new winner would be better for the game than to have a repeat winner (How do you like them apples?! Bet you didn't see that coming!). So can you guess which team I'm going to root for?

P.S. name is shelfit (as in shelf it), not selfit......go high or go home!
 
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shelfit said:
That was my point, that the best team on paper didn't win even though they outplayed Norwich and that's the beauty of sports! Thanks for catching up. I never said Middlebury should have won. The team with more goals than the other team wins (being sarcastic, not condescending) regardless of the shots. The shots only show which team had more of the play but you've got to have both timely scoring and timely goaltending to win. Then I gave a similar example from the Canadian university championship to prove my point. I was saying confidence had less to do with the outcome than that other poster was stating. What you didn't realize is that you and I are more on the same page than you understood. Get it now?
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Wow, that's all I am going to say.
NU Fan, I have to agree with your take on the lopsided penalties vs Middlebury. Plattsburgh is going to be tough game. Re-match of finals last year. I believe!!! Go Norwich. Home crowd and home ice will be an advantage for Plattsburgh. I would love another game with Norwich scoring 5 or 6 goals, all from different players. They can do this. I truly believe!
These women can do it!
 
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womanplayhockey said:
Wow, that's all I am going to say.
NU Fan, I have to agree with your take on the lopsided penalties vs Middlebury. Plattsburgh is going to be tough game. Re-match of finals last year. I believe!!! Go Norwich. Home crowd and home ice will be an advantage for Plattsburgh. I would love another game with Norwich scoring 5 or 6 goals, all from different players. They can do this. I truly believe!
These women can do it!
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Wow is right. You're pretty new to the game and it shows but I like your enthusiasm. Keep it up. It's very refreshing.

I think Plattsburgh will prevail in their semi-final by doubling up on Norwich in shots and on the scoreboard 4-2, and I think Elmira is going to suffer what some might call an upset at the hands of River Falls in the other semi-final. Goals have not come easy to the Soaring Eagles in their last two playoff games (I can't really include the Utica "playoff" game because after Platty and Elmira that whole conference is really weak). They've only averaged 1.5 goals per game against Trinity and Platty so if I'm UW-RF I'm thinking Elmira is primed for a loss. I'll guess 3-2 for the Falcons. It should be very interesting to see what happens!
 
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NU FAN said:
Ok, so moving on to the big story which of course is the frozen four. Plattsburgh State will not be an easy opponent, but at least they won't be diving like Middlebury, which is why the penalties were so lopsided btw. Another fact is that Platty has several players that can really shoot the puck, and being on home ice, home town, home everything, it will be a tough battle, but not impossible. With any luck, a hot goaltender, and another superstar performance by Champagne or someone else, one never knows. Platty may even let their cockyness get to them too, like in the 2010 NCAA quarterfinals, when NU scored 2 goals in the final two minutes for the upset win, so it will be important to keep the score close.

NU has never played for 3rd in all of their frozen four appearances.
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Plattsburgh's cockiness? I've been following this team a long time and cocky has never been a term I would use to describe them. And I'm sure the Norwich team in 2010 takes exception that they didn't beat Plattsburgh - Plattsburgh's cockiness was the reason they won.

OK, got that out of the way. My prediction is that Plattsburgh wins 5-2. It's been quite awhile since I saw Norwich goaltender play a good game at Stafford. That said, these teams are in the final four for a reason. There are no upsets anymore!
 
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spwood said:
Plattsburgh's cockiness? I've been following this team a long time and cocky has never been a term I would use to describe them. And I'm sure the Norwich team in 2010 takes exception that they didn't beat Plattsburgh - Plattsburgh's cockiness was the reason they won.

OK, got that out of the way. My prediction is that Plattsburgh wins 5-2. It's been quite awhile since I saw Norwich goaltender play a good game at Stafford. That said, these teams are in the final four for a reason. There are no upsets anymore!
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The last good one was in 2011, Cindy Fortin stood on her head in a 3-1 Norwich win.
 
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How beyond Robert does Norwich win this game? Team defenses are a wash, Norwich #1 and Platty is #3. Team offense Platty is #1 and then Norwich drops out of the sky. Didn't really know what to expect from this team at the start of the season for obvious reasons (freshmen). You have to give the coaching staff alot of credit. They have gotten the most of these girls by not allowing them to take a shift off. It's the first time this staff has not had a Fortier, Leclerc or a Charon to just consistently go out and rack up points. The season is over and they still don't move the puck well in the offensive zone. There are no snipers to speak of. So how do they win this game Friday beyond Robert standing on her head? Hopefully by not changing a thing. Dump and chase, get pucks out in front and stand in front of as many Platty shots as they can. In other words win ugly like they have all year. GO WICK!!!!!!!!!
 
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Tjames said:
How beyond Robert does Norwich win this game? Team defenses are a wash, Norwich #1 and Platty is #3. Team offense Platty is #1 and then Norwich drops out of the sky. Didn't really know what to expect from this team at the start of the season for obvious reasons (freshmen). You have to give the coaching staff alot of credit. They have gotten the most of these girls by not allowing them to take a shift off. It's the first time this staff has not had a Fortier, Leclerc or a Charon to just consistently go out and rack up points.
GO WICK!!!!!!!!!
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Some good points Tj, but it's the playoffs and one just never knows. Either way, the FF experience will go along way toward helping the team going forward.
Say they do lose Friday, and end up playing the west team in the early game on Saturday, thats great. We rarely get to size ourselves up against them, if at all.

But what would make an awesome final would be NU vs River Falls on Saturday!
 
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I'd like to see a "best of the east vs best of the west" final, Platty vs River Falls. I just looked it up and the only time there's been an east-west final was in 2004 when Middlebury beat Stevens Point 2-1. Was Point the real best of the west that year? I think River Falls is considered by almost everyone (except maybe for Adrian fans) as the true best of the west this year so I think it would be great if they make it to the finals this year.
 
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NU FAN said:
Some good points Tj, but it's the playoffs and one just never knows. Either way, the FF experience will go along way toward helping the team going forward.
Say they do lose Friday, and end up playing the west team in the early game on Saturday, thats great. We rarely get to size ourselves up against them, if at all.

But what would make an awesome final would be NU vs River Falls on Saturday!
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Going into the Middlebury game I thought Norwich was dead even with them. Midway through the 3rd period I didn't feel that way anymore and I still don't even though Norwich won. On paper Norwich is not as good as Plattsburg. The most important thing for both of these teams is Platty can't be over confident and Norwich doubt themselves one bit. In no sport other than hockey does Norwich have a chance in this game. It's also why I can't wait to get on that ferry.

I don't think Elmira loses Friday but I would love to see it happen. I agree you want to see an East/West clash for the final.
 
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