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Norwich 14-15
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Re: Norwich 14-15
Don't want to give too much credit to just one person, but it seems like that ever since NU Prof left for Colorado, this board became way too quiet. Maybe we miss his conversation stimulating abilities, or we have become complacent with our teams ability to win, I am not sure. However, the Cadets need our support this year more than ever as we start out the year with a very young team. The lack of activity on this board might reflect the low attendance at the games and again, I don't have an answer for either problem other than encouraging some of the younger fans (no, not the 10-16 year old ones, but they too are welcome) to get to the games and contribute to this forum. I have heard the jokes and comments about how old the average Norwich fan is, and we all know we are not getting younger. But as long as I am still breathing, I will be a proud Norwich supporter interested in watching the quality hockey the Cadets play. There are times that I will miss a game, but I always watch or listen and turn to this board to get more info about the team. Maybe USCHO and Norwich need to advertise to the younger (again, I am talking about the 20-30 year old group) folks, maybe hold some contests/events to get the interest going. Sound like a job for Prez as SID to push for a promotions crew. Lord knows he does a fantastic job and probably has little time to coordinate promotions. Maybe the Blue Line Club could do more in this department. I am just thinking out loud and don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, but we really need to get the younger crowd invested in the hockey Cadets. I am looking forward to the game tomorrow night vs St. Mike's squad. Hope there is a good turn out. There, enough said. Good night and GO NORWICH!
Don't want to give too much credit to just one person, but it seems like that ever since NU Prof left for Colorado, this board became way too quiet. Maybe we miss his conversation stimulating abilities, or we have become complacent with our teams ability to win, I am not sure. However, the Cadets need our support this year more than ever as we start out the year with a very young team. The lack of activity on this board might reflect the low attendance at the games and again, I don't have an answer for either problem other than encouraging some of the younger fans (no, not the 10-16 year old ones, but they too are welcome) to get to the games and contribute to this forum. I have heard the jokes and comments about how old the average Norwich fan is, and we all know we are not getting younger. But as long as I am still breathing, I will be a proud Norwich supporter interested in watching the quality hockey the Cadets play. There are times that I will miss a game, but I always watch or listen and turn to this board to get more info about the team. Maybe USCHO and Norwich need to advertise to the younger (again, I am talking about the 20-30 year old group) folks, maybe hold some contests/events to get the interest going. Sound like a job for Prez as SID to push for a promotions crew. Lord knows he does a fantastic job and probably has little time to coordinate promotions. Maybe the Blue Line Club could do more in this department. I am just thinking out loud and don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, but we really need to get the younger crowd invested in the hockey Cadets. I am looking forward to the game tomorrow night vs St. Mike's squad. Hope there is a good turn out. There, enough said. Good night and GO NORWICH!
bakdraft21
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Re: Norwich 14-15
I think all thread are down,Platty has a HUGE game sat night vs Genny in Genny and zero on that thread....Oswego plays its first home game this sat night, besides the U-18 game and zero on that thread as well.....nothing much on the other threads either except the prediction threads...Maybe people are busy getting their Turkeyday lists together,otherwise I have no idea??
I think all thread are down,Platty has a HUGE game sat night vs Genny in Genny and zero on that thread....Oswego plays its first home game this sat night, besides the U-18 game and zero on that thread as well.....nothing much on the other threads either except the prediction threads...Maybe people are busy getting their Turkeyday lists together,otherwise I have no idea??
Former NUSuntan
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Re: Norwich 14-15
I wasn't able to watch the Norwich-Plymouth State game
and therefore couldn't pick up any of the nuances of the various players so that I could comment on them. So, Let's talk about attendance. How many season ticket holders are there? Do they double sell these tickets for those that don't go to the game? How many students attended the Plymouth game? Are their seats paid for through activities fees? What is the actual seating capacity for games, not counting standing room? Does streaming the football games have a negative effect on attendance at football games?. How much does it cost to webcast each game? Has anyone done a study to see how many locals actually watch the streamed games, as opposed to those more than 50 miles from the Berg... I live 1200 miles away, and jet fuel has gotten too expensive for me to fly up for the games. There, fodder for the thread, will anyone step up and continue the conversation?
I wasn't able to watch the Norwich-Plymouth State game
and therefore couldn't pick up any of the nuances of the various players so that I could comment on them. So, Let's talk about attendance. How many season ticket holders are there? Do they double sell these tickets for those that don't go to the game? How many students attended the Plymouth game? Are their seats paid for through activities fees? What is the actual seating capacity for games, not counting standing room? Does streaming the football games have a negative effect on attendance at football games?. How much does it cost to webcast each game? Has anyone done a study to see how many locals actually watch the streamed games, as opposed to those more than 50 miles from the Berg... I live 1200 miles away, and jet fuel has gotten too expensive for me to fly up for the games. There, fodder for the thread, will anyone step up and continue the conversation?
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Good conversation starters guys ... Getting more traffic on these boards is a priority ... putting more fannys in the seats needs to be a bigger one. Actually thought the crowd for Plymouth was better than I expected ... great to see the students ... especially a good representation from the corps. Hopefully it will continue for St. Mike's. They are going to be tough. Also if you can, come early. The women faceoff against UNE at 4. Both Games on NSN AND WDEV! But that is no excuse not to be there!
I wasn't able to watch the Norwich-Plymouth State game
Fans 1,200 miles away earn a mulligan. As to fans closer to home I think on rare occasions (bad weather nights) they might stay home and watch, but generally I don't think that is the case. Our videocasts are pretty good but don't hold a candle to being there!
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Reported attendance was around 1250 for the Plymouth state game. There might have been a tad more there but not too much.
We had a great student turnout with probably 500-600 students there and LOUD.
I will say that this year's team, especially the captains have done a great job rebuilding the grassroots in the community and on campus making connections and showing their faces trying to get people excited to come to the games.
That's a great start. We've got some exciting promotions coming up this season that will hopefully help increase attendance and interest starting with the annual WhiteOut next Friday!
I'm looking forward to tomorrow's game to see how the young team does their second time out against an improved St. mikes team that could play spoiler this year in the ECAC east if people overlook them.
Re: Norwich 14-15
OK, that's more like it!
I said good night earlier in my post, but had to sign back on just to see if anyone else had thoughts to share. Glad to see the responses and good points made by everyone. There is hope for us yet.
The St. Mikes game could be a lot closer in score than in previous years due to the increased skill of St. Mike's players. That combined with nerves, excitement and inexperience on the part of the Norwich Cadets may make the first period end in a tied score. However, I predict that starting with the second period, we will see the Cadets settle down, connect on the passes, storm the net and out skate St. Mikes for a final score of 5-1. Anyone else want to make a prediction?
Any news on the injured players from last week? Would love to see Trevor Stewart, Dean Niezgoda and Dmitry Ermakov back on the ice. I would also like to see the other new goalie, Reichenbach play. I understand he has some good experience and numbers. Ostepchuk had a good game last week, couldnt find much at fault with him, I would just like to get a look at the new blood. Plus, if Matic Marinsek plays like he did last year... we could have 3 solid goalies ready to go and competing for the starting rights. Nothing wrong with that in my book. Competition between them will keep them sharp even if they don't get game time each week. McShane is very good at figuring out which players seem the readiest to perform on any given night, whether it's a goalie, forward or defenseman. There appears to be a lot of talent on this team and seeing how they fit on the lines is one of my favorite aspects of a new season. Seems like each week, McShane has a surprise out on the ice, and so far, the Lawler, McEleney and Whitell line has been a fun and productive surprise. I never imagined that combination, which is probably why I am not a coach of the sport
.
Hope to see you at the game and good luck Cadets.
OK, that's more like it!
I said good night earlier in my post, but had to sign back on just to see if anyone else had thoughts to share. Glad to see the responses and good points made by everyone. There is hope for us yet.The St. Mikes game could be a lot closer in score than in previous years due to the increased skill of St. Mike's players. That combined with nerves, excitement and inexperience on the part of the Norwich Cadets may make the first period end in a tied score. However, I predict that starting with the second period, we will see the Cadets settle down, connect on the passes, storm the net and out skate St. Mikes for a final score of 5-1. Anyone else want to make a prediction?
Any news on the injured players from last week? Would love to see Trevor Stewart, Dean Niezgoda and Dmitry Ermakov back on the ice. I would also like to see the other new goalie, Reichenbach play. I understand he has some good experience and numbers. Ostepchuk had a good game last week, couldnt find much at fault with him, I would just like to get a look at the new blood. Plus, if Matic Marinsek plays like he did last year... we could have 3 solid goalies ready to go and competing for the starting rights. Nothing wrong with that in my book. Competition between them will keep them sharp even if they don't get game time each week. McShane is very good at figuring out which players seem the readiest to perform on any given night, whether it's a goalie, forward or defenseman. There appears to be a lot of talent on this team and seeing how they fit on the lines is one of my favorite aspects of a new season. Seems like each week, McShane has a surprise out on the ice, and so far, the Lawler, McEleney and Whitell line has been a fun and productive surprise. I never imagined that combination, which is probably why I am not a coach of the sport
. Hope to see you at the game and good luck Cadets.
Re: Norwich 14-15
I'm back ... I had serious health issues and it wasn't as active as I'd like to be. But don't give me too much credit. Now as far as this season goes, I was disappointed not to get to see the Plymouth game.
Being back, I've got plenty of questions:
1. I'm curious about the goalie situation. Is the new guy going to be the go to guy this year, or was he given the start against Plymouth because of the calibre (or lack thereof) of the opponent and the fact that it was an NC game? Since McShane started at NU, it seems like the go to goalie seems to be an underclassman who supplants established players. This goes back a long way. Don't know if the seniors burn out, or what but going way back to Nate Eusko, it seems like senior goalies often fall off the radar in their senior year. Is Matic going to be the next one to be victim to that syndrome?
2. Now that exhibition games are allowed again is there any change that the NU/Dartmouth exhibition series can be renewed? The way the Ivy schedule worked and the the old DIII schedule rules work made it a natural. I always liked the idea of my alma mater playing a game against my adopted school (and the source of my paycheck and retirement income). Those games were fun. The last NU game that I saw in person was against DC, when I came back for a fall visit to the area.
3. Is there a forward who is going to step up and lead the team? Seems as though the last couple of years Norwich has lacked that standout player who could attract attention to himself and free up the other guys who were good as well, but not regarded as superstars. That presence helped the team, made everybody else better and then in a pinch he could do it all by himself. Just having players like Aucoin, MacLean, Kashirsky, Thomas, etc. created a different dynamic. Anybody like that on the horizon? Last years team (from what I remember) had a lot of good players, but not a big gun that drew everybody's attention.
4. Will the power play be better this year? Last years power play scheme was the weakest I have ever seen at NU. Too much passing that didn't get the other team to move their feet. In the past the success of the power play was built on moving the play from down low out to the points and creating chaos in the defense. Last year there was too many point to point passes and very few attempts to penetrate the defense.
Lots of questions
I'm back ... I had serious health issues and it wasn't as active as I'd like to be. But don't give me too much credit. Now as far as this season goes, I was disappointed not to get to see the Plymouth game.
Being back, I've got plenty of questions:
1. I'm curious about the goalie situation. Is the new guy going to be the go to guy this year, or was he given the start against Plymouth because of the calibre (or lack thereof) of the opponent and the fact that it was an NC game? Since McShane started at NU, it seems like the go to goalie seems to be an underclassman who supplants established players. This goes back a long way. Don't know if the seniors burn out, or what but going way back to Nate Eusko, it seems like senior goalies often fall off the radar in their senior year. Is Matic going to be the next one to be victim to that syndrome?
2. Now that exhibition games are allowed again is there any change that the NU/Dartmouth exhibition series can be renewed? The way the Ivy schedule worked and the the old DIII schedule rules work made it a natural. I always liked the idea of my alma mater playing a game against my adopted school (and the source of my paycheck and retirement income). Those games were fun. The last NU game that I saw in person was against DC, when I came back for a fall visit to the area.
3. Is there a forward who is going to step up and lead the team? Seems as though the last couple of years Norwich has lacked that standout player who could attract attention to himself and free up the other guys who were good as well, but not regarded as superstars. That presence helped the team, made everybody else better and then in a pinch he could do it all by himself. Just having players like Aucoin, MacLean, Kashirsky, Thomas, etc. created a different dynamic. Anybody like that on the horizon? Last years team (from what I remember) had a lot of good players, but not a big gun that drew everybody's attention.
4. Will the power play be better this year? Last years power play scheme was the weakest I have ever seen at NU. Too much passing that didn't get the other team to move their feet. In the past the success of the power play was built on moving the play from down low out to the points and creating chaos in the defense. Last year there was too many point to point passes and very few attempts to penetrate the defense.
Lots of questions
Re: Norwich 14-15
Comparing a game with extensive student promotion to attendance for an game with little promotion isn't a fair comparison as far as determining the effect of TV vs. no TV on attendance. When I was there, the few games I missed never had anything to do with whether or not there was video. I'd show up with my earphones in my end-zone seat and that experience was a whole lot better than the few times I couldn't get there and settled for watching part of the game on my computer (or way back when when trans-video would show the game on Channel 7). The Kreitzberg experience is just too much fun. Getting the community behind the team is a very important thing to do. It is good both for hockey and for the reputation of the school. Some Northfielders resent NU, and having a hockey program reach out to the community and show the good things about the school is so important. (I'm waxing very philosophical this morning, and looking forward to my first glimpse of the the team [but wishing I could see it from Section 22, Row 3])
Comparing a game with extensive student promotion to attendance for an game with little promotion isn't a fair comparison as far as determining the effect of TV vs. no TV on attendance. When I was there, the few games I missed never had anything to do with whether or not there was video. I'd show up with my earphones in my end-zone seat and that experience was a whole lot better than the few times I couldn't get there and settled for watching part of the game on my computer (or way back when when trans-video would show the game on Channel 7). The Kreitzberg experience is just too much fun. Getting the community behind the team is a very important thing to do. It is good both for hockey and for the reputation of the school. Some Northfielders resent NU, and having a hockey program reach out to the community and show the good things about the school is so important. (I'm waxing very philosophical this morning, and looking forward to my first glimpse of the the team [but wishing I could see it from Section 22, Row 3])
Re: Norwich 14-15
Hope you are feeling better Prof. Maybe a good dose of Norwich hockey will help your health!
Hope you are feeling better Prof. Maybe a good dose of Norwich hockey will help your health!
Re: Norwich 14-15
Prof glad you are back and hope your recovery is going well. I got to see the Plymouth game and the new goalie, Braeden Ostepchuk looked very good against an average Plymouth team. But his hockey resume was outstanding so wasn't a suprise. Think the D1 transfer will give it a go tonight.
Speaking of attendance Norwich has a lot of outstanding players but a superstar hasn't appeared yet. I don't think anything is wrong with this formula because the best D3 team in the country, St. Norbert, has done very well with outstanding goaltending with a few scoring forwards coupled with an outstanding defense. Norwich has some of these ingredients and could surprise a few people this year.
Prof glad you are back and hope your recovery is going well. I got to see the Plymouth game and the new goalie, Braeden Ostepchuk looked very good against an average Plymouth team. But his hockey resume was outstanding so wasn't a suprise. Think the D1 transfer will give it a go tonight.
Speaking of attendance Norwich has a lot of outstanding players but a superstar hasn't appeared yet. I don't think anything is wrong with this formula because the best D3 team in the country, St. Norbert, has done very well with outstanding goaltending with a few scoring forwards coupled with an outstanding defense. Norwich has some of these ingredients and could surprise a few people this year.
Re: Norwich 14-15
Thanks, I'm looking forward to it. Lets get ECAC East season underway
Thanks, I'm looking forward to it. Lets get ECAC East season underway
Former NUSuntan
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Re: Norwich 14-15
I get more and more disgusted with NSN, been trying to upload the Women's game only to get cutesy remarks about them not able to find the feed, then having it internally loop is driving me crazy!!! I almost long for the good old days when I lived in the Caribbean and used to call WDEV on the phone to get the radio feed on the phone.
I get more and more disgusted with NSN, been trying to upload the Women's game only to get cutesy remarks about them not able to find the feed, then having it internally loop is driving me crazy!!! I almost long for the good old days when I lived in the Caribbean and used to call WDEV on the phone to get the radio feed on the phone.
Former NUSuntan
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Re: Norwich 14-15
Was able to switch to google chrome browser instead of my normal MSN and got the game. Was a little disappointed in the many poor passes, missed opportunities, and a powerplay that looks like a perimeter passing clinic. Norwich has a lot of talent and they need to start making that powerplay work and stop making the little mental miscues. They let St. Mike's stay in the game much too long. All in all they show a lot of hustle and the goal tending looks pretty solid. looking forward to another good year.
Was able to switch to google chrome browser instead of my normal MSN and got the game. Was a little disappointed in the many poor passes, missed opportunities, and a powerplay that looks like a perimeter passing clinic. Norwich has a lot of talent and they need to start making that powerplay work and stop making the little mental miscues. They let St. Mike's stay in the game much too long. All in all they show a lot of hustle and the goal tending looks pretty solid. looking forward to another good year.
Re: Norwich 14-15
I did not have any problems with the NSN feed for either game, I use Safari because I have a Mac, and the only thing that was annoying was all the ads during the intermissions. I muted it and put on the DEV feed after the third time I heard that "you can't be a St. J. Subaru deal." That was annoying. Maybe there is a faster internet that runs to Colorado
As for the game, I was disappointed (again) in the power play - I know they got one late of a point shot, but the set up once again relied way too much of passing the puck back and forth without making the other team move at all. This has been a recurring theme. Lots of good things, but my goodness I don't understand the power play issues. Is it a question of personnel? I don't want to sound like a negative nelly like some posters for other teams, but I think the power play needs to be addressed. There is more productive puck movement when they are playing 5 on 5. Maybe they should just pretend they are even strength when they have a power play.
I did not have any problems with the NSN feed for either game, I use Safari because I have a Mac, and the only thing that was annoying was all the ads during the intermissions. I muted it and put on the DEV feed after the third time I heard that "you can't be a St. J. Subaru deal." That was annoying. Maybe there is a faster internet that runs to Colorado
As for the game, I was disappointed (again) in the power play - I know they got one late of a point shot, but the set up once again relied way too much of passing the puck back and forth without making the other team move at all. This has been a recurring theme. Lots of good things, but my goodness I don't understand the power play issues. Is it a question of personnel? I don't want to sound like a negative nelly like some posters for other teams, but I think the power play needs to be addressed. There is more productive puck movement when they are playing 5 on 5. Maybe they should just pretend they are even strength when they have a power play.
Birdwatcher
Registered User
Re: Norwich 14-15
I usually watch NSN on the iPad because of the clarity. If I do use the PC I use Chrome.I did not have any problems with the NSN feed for either game, I use Safari because I have a Mac, and the only thing that was annoying was all the ads during the intermissions. I muted it and put on the DEV feed after the third time I heard that "you can't be a St. J. Subaru deal." That was annoying. Maybe there is a faster internet that runs to Colorado
As for the game, I was disappointed (again) in the power play - I know they got one late of a point shot, but the set up once again relied way too much of passing the puck back and forth without making the other team move at all. This has been a recurring theme. Lots of good things, but my goodness I don't understand the power play issues. Is it a question of personnel? I don't want to sound like a negative nelly like some posters for other teams, but I think the power play needs to be addressed. There is more productive puck movement when they are playing 5 on 5. Maybe they should just pretend they are even strength when they have a power play.
Re: Norwich 14-15
You guys are a little hard on the Cadets with there number of key injuries coupled with the start of the season. I see a lot of positives from the goaltending and some of the new guys like Justin Charbonneau, Kevin Salvucci, and Alex Brandrup. It will be interesting to see who the coach selects to play in the Primelink against Plattsburgh. Charbonneau especially seemed like a player with a ton of potential.
You guys are a little hard on the Cadets with there number of key injuries coupled with the start of the season. I see a lot of positives from the goaltending and some of the new guys like Justin Charbonneau, Kevin Salvucci, and Alex Brandrup. It will be interesting to see who the coach selects to play in the Primelink against Plattsburgh. Charbonneau especially seemed like a player with a ton of potential.
AldenPartridge1819
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Re: Norwich 14-15
1. McShane gets sick of the older goalies. Plain and simple. There often isn't any other reason. Klingensmith is the only senior goalie who was really given the reigns. Might have to do with the fact that he wasn't considered a top guy from the beginning, and so he was always overachieving. I think NU's recent problem with getting goalies has to do with the fact that goalie recruits know that they will potentially be abandoned by the coach.
3. Pelletier is the only one I've seen with this kind of potential. Too bad he's injured to start the season.
4. Not so far. I think Corey Hale is an amazing defenseman. One of the best in the country. But he is not a PP quarterback. Maybe Brandrup can be the answer.
1. McShane gets sick of the older goalies. Plain and simple. There often isn't any other reason. Klingensmith is the only senior goalie who was really given the reigns. Might have to do with the fact that he wasn't considered a top guy from the beginning, and so he was always overachieving. I think NU's recent problem with getting goalies has to do with the fact that goalie recruits know that they will potentially be abandoned by the coach.
3. Pelletier is the only one I've seen with this kind of potential. Too bad he's injured to start the season.
4. Not so far. I think Corey Hale is an amazing defenseman. One of the best in the country. But he is not a PP quarterback. Maybe Brandrup can be the answer.