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Old Pio said:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,567700,00.html

So this putz superintendent is deeply into bunker mode and evidently won't even talk to the kid or his parents. Also add to this kid's CV the fact that he was awarded a hero medal for performing CPR on his aunt!

Years ago Harvey Kurtzman of Mad Magazine (he's the guy who created Annie Fannie) coined the term "creeping meatballism," which applies to this case in spades . If I were this kid's parents I'd be hunting around for the most rapacious lawyer I could find--John Edwards isn't doing anything--and let this superintendent know that they were going to sue him personally.
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Incidentally, they posted the guy's e-mail and phone number at the end of that story. Fire away.
 
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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2009-10-19-marathon-train_N.htm

Train stops Des Moines Marathon in its tracks
By Lance Bergeson, Des Moines Register
Nothing, not even a train, could stop Kenyan Simon Sawe from winning the Des Moines Marathon for the second time.

Sawe was leading countryman David Tuwei by 10 seconds when, after a left turn onto the final stretch on Southwest Fourth, he stared right at a train passing on the road.

"Nobody is prepared for that scenario," said Sawe, the inaugural champion in 2002. "I couldn't believe it. It was a long train."

Tuwei caught the 40-year-old Sawe and the two waited ... and waited ... and waited for the train to pass. Third-place Geoffrey Birgen had nearly caught the two leaders when the train finally crossed the street about 40 to 50 seconds later.

A 26.2-mile race came down to a 400-meter sprint, and Sawe used his speed as a former 1,500-meter runner to pull away and win the $3,000 top prize in 2 hours, 24 minutes, 50 seconds. Tuwei finished 5 seconds back.

"When you have to wait, you think about crazy things," said Sawe, who indicated for a fleeting moment he thought about jumping onto the train. "Usually you don't get me at the end when you give me a chance."

The train apparently was operated by Iowa Interstate Railroad. Tom Bernau, the president of the company that puts on the marathon, produced an e-mail thread from Sept. 15 that showed race director Chris Burch had detailed the course map and marathon dates to the railroad.

Mick Burkart, vice president of the Iowa Interstate Railroad, responded to Burch that "this should not be a problem."

Burkart responded in an e-mail late Sunday night that his company was at fault.

"I sincerely apologize for this happening," Burkart wrote. "We were well aware of the race and our agreement to refrain from operating through this area during the race. Due to some miscommunication a train was allowed into the race area before it was supposed to. There is no excuse for this happening."

Creigh Kelly, the Des Moines marathon announcer who travels to road races across the country, said trains impact races more than people realize. He said marathons in Portland and Akron have been interrupted by trains. The Midnight Madness race in Ames also has been stopped by a train.

Calls to the Iowa Department of Transportation's Office of Rail Transportation were not returned.

Sawe, who is from Santa Fe, N.M., wanted to challenge his record time of 2:22:57 set in 2002 and equaled by David Chepkwony in 2007. He said a chilly 45-degree morning and 15 mph winds helped stop the charge.

"You hit this headwind and you were just jogging," Sawe said.

Sawe, Tuwei, Birgen and a fourth Kenyan, Silah Misoi, were not far off the record pace of 5:27 through 20 miles. Then Sawe decided to pick up the pace.

"I wanted to see at (mile) 20 how everyone was doing," Sawe said. "We started playing a tug-of-war. I figured it was now or never."

Sawe said he separated from the group at mile 24 and his lead stayed at 10 seconds until he was stopped by the train.

"When I tried to kick, there was no energy," Tuwei said of the restart. "I got tired."
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*facepalm*
 
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Foxton said:
Schools get attendance money by having students listed on their roster for the full year. The kids would have to pull themselves out of the school in order to screw the school over.
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That could be in some districts. I know my hometown's school, the money was based on the number of days the kids were in school, which is why it literally had to be -50 degrees and blizzard conditions before they would cancel school.
 
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Old Pio said:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568524,00.html?test=latestnews


The religion of peace!
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:rolleyes: Religions generally inspire fanaticism. BTW Christianity still holds the all time record for killing in the name of their religion.
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Foxton said:
:rolleyes: Religions generally inspire fanaticism. BTW Christianity still holds the all time record for killing in the name of their religion.
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Your moral equivalency arguments must win all sorts of points at the Niles East High School forensics tournament, but we're talking about the real world here. As repulsive as Phelps is (I started a thread calling for retroactively aborting him) to my knowledge his group isn't involved in any summary punishments of other citizens. And I'm not aware that his "church" has advocates in just about every country in the world. Advocates who are busily working to establish 8th century theocracies on nations that have long since rejected that approach.

As far as I know, the only advocates of any religion anywhere in the world calling for death to people who disagree with them (and regularly carrying out those threats) are Muslims and your snarky "both sides have done bad things" act doesn't change that. Especially when most of the bad things done in the name of Christianity were done centuries ago while jihadist Islamo fascists are working hard to kill you and me even as we speak.
 
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Old Pio said:
Your moral equivalency arguments must win all sorts of points at the Niles East High School forensics tournament, but we're talking about the real world here. As repulsive as Phelps is (I started a thread calling for retroactively aborting him) to my knowledge his group isn't involved in any summary punishments of other citizens.
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Cause there are laws against it, and they're smart enough to realize that fighting the police is going to end in failure. While in fundamentalist countries they don't have that restriction. You're also using a few extremist groups to label an entire religion, similar to what I did by pointing out some psychos in America. There's greater than 1.3 billion people who are Islamic in the world, and surprise surprise, the example of over the top fundamentalist comes from an area known to be religiously extreme for thousands of years.
As far as I know, the only advocates of any religion anywhere in the world calling for death to people who disagree with them (and regularly carrying out those threats) are Muslims and your snarky "both sides have done bad things" act doesn't change that. Especially when most of the bad things done in the name of Christianity were done centuries ago while jihadist Islamo facists are working hard to kill you and me even as we speak.
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And Christian facists are still listening to the voices in their heads.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did.
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Cause there are laws against it, and they're smart enough to realize that fighting the police is going to end in failure. While in fundamentalist countries they don't have that restriction. You're also using a few extremist groups to label an entire religion, similar to what I did by pointing out some psychos in America. There's greater than 1.3 billion people who are Islamic in the world, and surprise surprise, the example of over the top fundamentalist comes from an area known to be religiously extreme for thousands of years.

And Christian facists are still listening to the voices in their heads.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
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Fine. Have it your way: there's no difference whatsoever between Islamofascists and Christian fundamentalists. BTW, remind me when the last terror attack by Christians against Muslims was, I've forgotten. Maybe it was that bombing of the church in Saudi Arabia, oh wait, there aren't any churches in Saudi Arabia.

Frankly, Scarlett, I don't give a damme about Muslims and their delicate sensitivities. You talk about "a few groups," I talk about a world wide jihadist effort that takes different forms in different lands, but always, always involves murders of people who get in their way. And always involves defense of the indefensible by what Lenin referred to as "useful idiots" who claim that objecting to or opposing this jihadist dogma amounts to being disrespectful to "the religion of peace."

Without a shred of evidence, you suggest that Phelps and Co. would engage in violence and killings except there are "laws against it." Well, we can certainlly agree about the laws, although it doesn't take your apparant prescience about Phelps to know what jihadists have on their minds. That, of course, is the nub of the matter with Islam. The model is a theocracy and the civilized nations of the world have come to conclude that that's just not the optimum way to organize governments.

Why is it so hard for you to agree that summary beatings of women in the street, with no due process, is NOT something that should horrify all civilized people? Why? Because you're still suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome? Is that it? IMHO that makes you blind to a very serious reality. We are in a struggle here, perhaps not as well defined as the cold war and other struggles. But a struggle. And all we have to do to see our future is the morally equivalent cesspool that western Europe has become, unwilling as it apparantly is to look evil in the face and say "enough."
 
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Old Pio said:
Why is it so hard for you to agree that summary beatings of women in the street, with no due process, is NOT something that should horrify all civilized people? Why? Because you're still suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome? Is that it? IMHO that makes you blind to a very serious reality. We are in a struggle here, perhaps not as well defined as the cold war and other struggles. But a struggle. And all we have to do to see our future is the morally equivalent cesspool that western Europe has become, unwilling as it apparantly is to look evil in the face and say "enough."
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Where was there disagreement on how that was horrible? I complained about your sarcastic comment on how Islam is the religion of peace.:rolleyes:
 
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Foxton said:
Where was there disagreement on how that was horrible? I complained about your sarcastic comment on how Islam is the religion of peace.:rolleyes:
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You could have fooled me. Saw right through the sarcasm, did you?
 
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Fine. Have it your way: there's no difference whatsoever between Islamofascists and Christian fundamentalists. BTW, remind me when the last terror attack by Christians against Muslims was, I've forgotten.
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To you and I there is a difference and fundamentally I agree with much of what you’re saying. There are no present day crusades and the Pope hasn’t declared war on Islam. Yet you realize perception often becomes reality. And in the eyes of many of the billions of Muslims on the planet, they do not see a difference between terrorists citing the Koran to attack Americans and George Bush saying he’s going into Iraq because, ‘God told him to’. The west doesn’t exist within a vacuum and the imams whipping up a furor in those looking for an excuse to join the cause cite our actions as a means to generate members. Legitimately or not.

So we do one of two things – we generate as many good feelings as possible within the region (no, I’m not talking about pulling out of Afghanistan) to reduce (but not eliminate completely) the threat diplomatically, or we actually declare WWIII on terrorist regimes once and for all. Not war on Islam, war on specific governments. And by that I mean we go in there and eliminate everyone that’s not with us. I mean beating the living crap out if Iran, Syria and any other nation that continues to appease terrorists, as well as telling the Pakistani government to blow themselves, we are taking over the regions housing Al Qaeda. The problem with that imho is until Europe, China or Russia sustain their own 9/11, I we will neer receive sufficient backing from the rest of the world to win this version of WWIII. And until we have such a war (of which I firmly believe in) there are going to be viable pockets of Islamofascists posing very real threats to the lives of Westerners.

Call me crazy.....
 
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Doesn't seem to take much, where did I say that it was okay what they did?
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Actually you said nothing, either way, but did reflexively launch into the boiler plate rhetoric about 1.3 billion Muslims, and we're no better than they are, and dredging up Phelps family video albums, and George W. Bush quotes (yeah, he's just like Bin Laden) and appearing to excuse jihadist violence with Crusades references and generally offering the same guilt laden moral equivalency arguments we hear every day.
 
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Slap Shot said:
To you and I there is a difference and fundamentally I agree with much of what you’re saying. There are no present day crusades and the Pope hasn’t declared war on Islam. Yet you realize perception often becomes reality. And in the eyes of many of the billions of Muslims on the planet, they do not see a difference between terrorists citing the Koran to attack Americans and George Bush saying he’s going into Iraq because, ‘God told him to’. The west doesn’t exist within a vacuum and the imams whipping up a furor in those looking for an excuse to join the cause cite our actions as a means to generate members. Legitimately or not.

So we do one of two things – we generate as many good feelings as possible within the region (no, I’m not talking about pulling out of Afghanistan) to reduce (but not eliminate completely) the threat diplomatically, or we actually declare WWIII on terrorist regimes once and for all. Not war on Islam, war on specific governments. And by that I mean we go in there and eliminate everyone that’s not with us. I mean beating the living crap out if Iran, Syria and any other nation that continues to appease terrorists, as well as telling the Pakistani government to blow themselves, we are taking over the regions housing Al Qaeda. The problem with that imho is until Europe, China or Russia sustain their own 9/11, I we will neer receive sufficient backing from the rest of the world to win this version of WWIII. And until we have such a war (of which I firmly believe in) there are going to be viable pockets of Islamofascists posing very real threats to the lives of Westerners.

Call me crazy.....
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Works for me. Bin Laden talks about weak horse, strong horse. We must be the former.
 
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Meanwhile, this clown is still selling the customary delusional paranoid racism.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/10/19/Farrakhan-suspicious-of-H1N1-vaccine/UPI-63931256011008/

During the height of the AIDS epidemic, Calypso Louis claimed the virus was created by "whitey" kill off black folks. And the Nation offered its own worthless, grotesquely overpriced "treatment" for the illness. Needless to say, no patients survived. Think of the number of beautiful black children put at risk if significant numbers of parents believe this latest bilge and don't get their kids vaccinated. It's enough to make you weep.
 
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