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NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

shelfit said:
I stand corrected...but not by much. Those numbers are still awful for any goalie and I still can't understand why any coach would leave a goalie in the whole game like that unless this was house league and the team only had one goalie.
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I think ne7minder was talking about a team that was really young, like a bunch of little kids. When one of the good teams plays one of the bad teams things can get pretty extreme. Lots of times they do only have one goalie and it didn't really sound from the description that if they only would have had a good goalie they could have made a game of it!
 
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

shelfit said:
We've all seen games like that where one team spends almost the entire game in its own zone chasing the opponents around but I honestly have never seen one of those games end up with 20 goals against
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I read/heard about one in the late '60's or early '70's when the Red Army Team, as it was called at the time, from Russia played a team in Newfoundland and won 28-0! I wouldn't imagine any of the hosts boasting afterwards "I's the b'y!"
 
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

shelfit said:
20 goals against on 49 shots isn't good, if that's accurate. We've all seen games like that where one team spends almost the entire game in its own zone chasing the opponents around but I honestly have never seen one of those games end up with 20 goals against, and wouldn't the coach switch goalies at some point when it was still under 10-0? Why would any coach leave a goalie in net for 20 goals against?! Was this house league? In this case it seems goaltending was almost 0% between the pipes and maybe 40% between the ears.
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The D gave up early in the first period. Imagine facing 69 SHOTs in 3 17 minute periods. Nobody was clearing a thing, most of the goals were on rebounds that the D couldn't be bothered to clear, anything that was not gloved was coming back at him, often from someone who was uncovered. Yes, the save percentage is not good but did you miss the part about the team NEVER getting the puck out of the zone except on icing? I was not exaggerating there. I never asked the coach why he did not swap goalies, he may have thought it didn't matter. I know, despite my parent goggles, that he had the best goalie in there. He may have decided to just let him take the beating. Mentally it did make him a better goalie & - minus that one game - his season was .987 so this was an interesting case overall.

BTW had he made 68 save they still would have lost, they had zero SOG for the game so my point still stands
 
ne7minder said:
March 24, 2006 #16 Holy Cow 4 - #1 MN 3 in one of the most famous half-fast effort the boys are famous for but the girls have mostly avoided. These are things no Gopher fan should forget. If I were the men's coach the inside of the locker room door would be blue & white:
3-24-06
4 - 3

OTOH, I have never seen the women sleepwalk through whole periods unless they had at least a 6 goal lead and I expect Saturday is sticking in their craw. It could be ugly for RIT if they decide to "get even" for that experience. Interesting note, two-thirds of all the losses MN suffered this year were at the hands of BSU
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ftr it was a 15 vs. 2 but the memory doesn't sting any less. ;) :(
 
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

RIT does NOT deserve to be in the national tournament. They average more goals against than goals scored per game. How does this make the tournament more fair? The top 6 WCHA teams would be in the tournament before RIT. What a joke! How many players, teams, and coaches deserve to be fighting for a national championsip and now they get to watch Minny dominate this not so long ago d3 team. The WCHA needs to do something with their schedule
 
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undhockey said:
RIT does NOT deserve to be in the national tournament. ....... The WCHA needs to do something with their schedule
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RIT won their conference autobid hence they DESERVE to be in the national tournament.

The WCHA needs to do something about their schedule??? Maybe North Dakota should leave the WCHA and join the CHA! ;)
 
undhockey said:
RIT does NOT deserve to be in the national tournament. They average more goals against than goals scored per game. How does this make the tournament more fair? The top 6 WCHA teams would be in the tournament before RIT. What a joke! How many players, teams, and coaches deserve to be fighting for a national championsip and now they get to watch Minny dominate this not so long ago d3 team. The WCHA needs to do something with their schedule
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Don't just come here to rant your complaint. Try to propose a solution. If you feel you've identified their schedule as the problem, what is your solution?

I think you're way off the mark on this one. While I think they might get beaten badly tomorrow, they have earned their way to the dance fair and square. They got hot at the right time and won their conference crown. Sure it's the weakest conference in D1 women's hockey but they still won their championship. I'd question their opponents in their conference tournament particularly Mercyhurst and ask them if they just weren't focused when they played the last place team or if they took them for granted, etc. Then I'd ask Syracuse the same thing. The problem isn't with RIT being in the NCAA tournament. The problem is that the other teams in the CHA just didn't get the job done. What a great story RIT is writing for themselves after a poor regular season. Give them some credit for peaking at the right time of year. Isn't that what you're supposed to do in competitive sports?!?!
 
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

undhockey said:
RIT does NOT deserve to be in the national tournament. They average more goals against than goals scored per game. How does this make the tournament more fair? The top 6 WCHA teams would be in the tournament before RIT. What a joke! How many players, teams, and coaches deserve to be fighting for a national championsip and now they get to watch Minny dominate this not so long ago d3 team. The WCHA needs to do something with their schedule
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In the years North Dakota was in last place, was it allowed to be in the WCHA conference tournament?
 
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EastFan1 said:
In the years North Dakota was in last place, was it allowed to be in the WCHA conference tournament?
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:confused:

Can someone help me out with the relevance of this question as related to the opinion regarding RIT and the national tournament?

I must have missed 60 minutes.
 
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

brookyone said:
:confused:

Can someone help me out with the relevance of this question as related to the opinion regarding RIT and the national tournament?

I must have missed 60 minutes.
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I'm not sure of the relevance or when we went from final five to all 8 teams in our tournament, but I know they would have had to go through the eventual national champion every year.
 
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

EastFan1 said:
In the years North Dakota was in last place, was it allowed to be in the WCHA conference tournament?
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Yes. The WCHA opens with all 8 teams seeded 8 at 1, 7 at 2, 6 at 3 and 5 at 4 in a best of 3 weekend. Had NoDak beaten #1 twice it would have advanced to the semi-finals.
 
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

undhockey said:
RIT does NOT deserve to be in the national tournament. They average more goals against than goals scored per game. How does this make the tournament more fair? The top 6 WCHA teams would be in the tournament before RIT. What a joke! How many players, teams, and coaches deserve to be fighting for a national championsip and now they get to watch Minny dominate this not so long ago d3 team. The WCHA needs to do something with their schedule
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The rules are the rules and good for RIT. All you can ask for is to be in control of your own destiny at the end of the year and the sue were. They just didn't get it done. It also did not help losing to weak teams early in the year, despite of that, they still could have made it. Just win baby, just win.
 
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RIT has the blueprint on how to beat Minnesota. Bemidji was the best at executing it this year. Clog the middle, block a lot of shots and have your goalie be a rock in net. Pounce on a mistake or two by Minnesota and convert on it. Hang on for dear life and hope that Minnesota is not playing their best.
 
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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Pounce on a mistake or two by Minnesota and convert on it.
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And get a bounce. In the first BSU win over UM, the only goal hit a defenseman's leg and deflected by Leveille. In the second, whether Anderson was naturally spinning as she fell or she swung her leg, the puck found the five hole after it came off her shin pad. The problem when you are the underdog team that is getting outshot and spends more time in your end is that the odds favor the bounce goal going against you rather than for you.

That's going to be the bigger challenge for RIT -- how to score. Defensively, it can survive the opening minutes, clog the middle, pick up sticks, and do all the things that underdogs do on the road. But offensively? The Tigers played Syracuse three times in the last month and only scored once in regulation each time. Minnesota allows on average a goal and a half less per game than did Syracuse. The RIT power play struggles. So if the Tigers don't get the bounce or gift-wrapped mistakes from Minnesota, scoring will be a challenge.

On the other hand, there are some associative outcomes that predict success for RIT: it beat Syracuse, who beat UND, who beat Minnesota. Also, it beat Mercyhurst, who beat Ohio State, who beat Bemidji, who beat Minnesota. So, there's a chance. The Tigers just have to add a more direct link.
 
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

Timothy A said:
The rules are the rules and good for RIT. All you can ask for is to be in control of your own destiny at the end of the year and the sue were. They just didn't get it done. It also did not help losing to weak teams early in the year, despite of that, they still could have made it. Just win baby, just win.
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true. but RIT has one of the worst SOS in the country and still their record isnt even .500
UND has played 23 games this year against teams that finished the season with a Pairwise better than RIT.
 
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undhockey said:
true. but RIT has one of the worst SOS in the country and still their record isnt even .500
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Sure, which is why they're stuck playing the top seed in the tournament. But that's what the autobids are there for, you know?


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