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NCAA Quarterfinal: RIT @ Minnesota

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I'm not watching the game, but can someone who is explain why it made sense for UM to take TWO game misconduct penalties in the first period??!!! I can't believe that these players will be dressing for the semi's after a hit from behind and butt end ejection. Same comment on Ammerman for UW by the way given a head contact ejection.... Shockingly bad judgement by good players....
 
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Been to a few coaches things & heard several coaches from out East say how much more physical WCHA teams are. The next time I hear that I think I may kick the speaker in the crotch. St. Lawrence complained about Mankato before they played MN but they dished it out with a skill and expertise that comes from practice. RIT was a physical as any team I have seen in womens hockey. Not really dirty but they hit people, always left a parting shot & seemed to enjoy a lot of extra curriculars after the whistle.

MN looked tight for the first 5 minutes of the game but as soon as they scored you could see them open it up. Pannik took a checking from behind penalty. It was accidental as the RIT player turned into it but it was from behind. The constant physical thing seemed to irritate the Gophers but they kept the pressure on. Really not much to say except I was glad to see SHipper break out of her slump. MN's 6th goal was an empty netter & RIT's 2nd came after a blown icing call so really a 5-1 game, closer than most people projected. Looking forward to 3 great games next weekend.
 
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HockeyEast33 said:
I'm not watching the game, but can someone who is explain why it made sense for UM to take TWO game misconduct penalties in the first period??!!! I can't believe that these players will be dressing for the semi's after a hit from behind and butt end ejection. Same comment on Ammerman for UW by the way given a head contact ejection.... Shockingly bad judgement by good players....
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The hit from behind was not intentional. Pannik was going to the boards to cut off the puck, the RIT player turned her back & fell so that Pannik hit her, had she remained upright the contact would have been side to side and not even a check. Nobody I talked to saw the butt end so no clue. Given the way RIT was playing I think there was a lot of bad blood. Thats not an excuse but there was a lot of bad stuff going on both ways. It was so bad Hanna Brandt got into it a couple of times and she NEVER does that.
 
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This was an ugly, chippy game from both sides. I'll disagree with ne7minder and say that I thought RIT did make some dirty plays, including #17 spearing Nina Rodgers at one point without a call. That said, the Gophers went over the edge, too, so I wouldn't draw too many conclusions beyond this game from my observation. I thought Pannek's check from behind wasn't a very hard hit but it was from behind and I have no problem with the call. I, too, did not see the butt-ending. The only person I found who claims that he did said he thought it should have been a penalty but not a major. Given that this particular individual can be biased at times, I think it's perfectly plausible that a major was deserved. Lorence always plays with an edge and this time she fell over it. All in all, not a good show despite the final score.

Related to all that, I thought that Ludwig and Langley did a very good job making sure that this game didn't get out of control. Based on the chippy play in the first period and a lopsided score it easily could have. They made most of the calls they really needed to make and they were constantly communicating with the captains of both teams. The second and third periods were a lot better.

As for the Gophers' performance, "Meh." It wasn't all that impressive, though some of the goals were beautiful. I do think a lot of the less inspiring play is due to the kind of team they've been playing lately. Bemidji and RIT play a style that is defense first, last, and everything in between. If a team like that is on its game, the Gophers are always going to look mediocre relative to their usual level of play. Fortunately, any games we play next weekend will be against teams that actually make scoring goals a part of their game plan and I think that will make a big difference, if not in our chances to win, at least in terms of the Gophers looking like what we expect.
 
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Yeah, that was weird. Part of the problem was the RIT players would just go flying when they touched a Gopher player. I'm not saying they were diving, they just looked smaller and less stable. The player that Pannek hit is listed as 5'3". Pannek was going for position as much as hitting her and the RIT player just flew into the boards. I'm not saying the penalty wasn't justified, just that I don't think it was a violent hit.

I think RIT was baiting us and we fell for it too much until Lorence went out and then the Gophers finally stopped when the whistle blew. I hated seeing Hannah Brandt hit back on that play.

Nobody I talked to saw the Lorence play.
 
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Didn't the 2nd period start with 4:45 left on the penalty or something like that? But there was no penalty at the end of the first period. Isn't they right?
 
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ne7minder said:
Looking forward to 3 great games next weekend.
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Let's hope it turns out that way. Was looking forward to 4 good ones today and they were all pretty much a waste of time although the BU-UW game started with some promise. I guess the positive take away is, at least with respect to today's play, that the vastly superior teams advanced...no fluky results, so, I guess that theoretically increases the odds for a few good games next weekend.
 
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KTDC said:
Didn't the 2nd period start with 4:45 left on the penalty or something like that? But there was no penalty at the end of the first period. Isn't they right?
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No, it started with 5 minutes on the penalty. There was a snafu with the clocks, because the penalty clock fell three seconds behind the game clock, so with 14:58 to play in the period there was still one second showing on the penalty. So the went ahead and freed Nina Rodgers. Given that she was also sitting in the box, for someone else's penalty as usual, when McMillen came out early instead of her up in Grand Forks, she must have some kind of aura that interferes with proper adjudication.
 
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Lorence's butt ending penalty is in the stats at 20:00, so the power play would've started when the second period started. She must have stuck somebody at the end of the first period.
 
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ZedLeppelin said:
Lorence's butt ending penalty is in the stats at 20:00, so the power play would've started when the second period started. She must have stuck somebody at the end of the first period.
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Yes, the penalty was assessed during intermission. The issue is what was showing on the scoreboard at various points. The penalty time started to count down when the teams came back on the ice and the intermission time was running down. Then there was still time left on the penalty clock with more than five minutes played. Scoreboard gremlins.
 
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Eeyore said:
This was an ugly, chippy game from both sides. I'll disagree with ne7minder and say that I thought RIT did make some dirty plays, including #17 spearing Nina Rodgers at one point without a call.
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I didn't see that. But I still feel like I have see more dangerou & dirty stuff from UND and UMD when they are losing & OSU this year. I was not the least bit surprised to read the RIT is the third most penalized team in the nation and the Gophers the least.
 
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KTDC said:
Nobody I talked to saw the Lorence play.
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ne7minder said:
Frost said he watched the tape and "saw something different" I'm assuming it was more BS going on & the ref assumed something happened.
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This is going to be pretty classic hearsay but I know someone who talked to someone and she said she didn't do it. She says she didn't do it, Frost (fixed your post, by the way) says he "saw something different" on the tape. It was Langley who called it, she summoned Ludwig and the ARs to the referee's crease after the first period was over and hatched up the penalty. I delayed my rush to the concessions (lol) to observe the confab and I thought that Ludwig in particular seemed oblivious to what she wanted to call. I don't fault the crew, among the four of them they finally agreed on something. There must have been something.

And then the Gophers played 40 minutes of the game without 2/3 of their second line. With both of her linemates gone Rachel Bona was pretty much cast adrift to find a place among teammates she has not been on the ice with at any other time this season. The Gophers used Wolfe a player who has been pretty much solely a D as an emergency 3rd center. This scrambled the D rotation some but everyone adapted and mostly they all did well. The team had to reconstitute the second and third lines in configurations not previously seen and to their credit it all worked well enough. For example, I was a bit surprised that out of nowhere based on her performance this season Garzone was suddenly dangling and trying to create offense. It all worked out OK, they dominated, they won.
 
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ne7minder said:
I was not the least bit surprised to read the RIT is the third most penalized team in the nation and the Gophers the least.
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The Gophers weren't the least even before today's explosion.

ManBehindTheCurtain said:
With both of her linemates gone Rachel Bona was pretty much cast adrift to find a place among teammates she has not been on the ice with at any other time this season. The Gophers used Wolfe a player who has been pretty much solely a D as an emergency 3rd center.
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Schipper was Bona's center until the Four Nation's break, and they finished last year together on the Davis line. Wolfe played forward through the trip to Ohio State and dabbled at center at various times until Piazza was moved to the middle. Still, she hadn't lined up there in months.
 
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