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Movies 52 - 1917: Sonic the Bad Boys of Prey

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dxmnkd316 said:
Agree in general about the dramas and music.

90s had:
actions: T2, Matrix, Heat, The Professional, Jurassic Park, Lock stock, fugitive, Predator, Boondock saints, 5th element, first contact, Die Hard Vengance, Red October, total recall, the rock, enemy of the state, starship troopers, crimson tide, true lies, speed, ronin, goldeneye
comedy movies: office space, ace ventura, what about bob, american pie, dumb and dumber, 10 things I hate about you, lewbowski, tommy boy, groundhog day, grumpy old men,
simpsons, news radio, frasier, fresh prince, the tick, space ghost, 3rd rock, beavis & butthead. Among those I didn't care for but would make the list: Seinfeld, friends, kids in the hall, animaniacs, Coach

80s had:
Action: Empire, Raiders, Last Crusade, Die Hard, Terminator, (is blade runner action or drama?), Wrath of Kahn?, Lethal Weapon, beverly hills cop, karate kid
Comedy movies: NL vacation, christmas vacation, caddyshack, planes trains automobiles, spinal tap, naked gun, airplane, strange brew, spaceballs, uncle buck, ghostbusters, back to the future,
Cheers. I have no idea if these were good: Golden girls? Night Court? Newhart? Family Ties? Dukes of Hazard?

Action could go either way. 80s had some serious classics, but fewer of them.
Tough call on the comedy movies. Most of the 90s ones are more polarizing than the 80s. So probably edge goes to the 80s.
For TV comedies, I guess I disagree that the 80s had better, but that's only because I didn't grow up in the 80s and TV shows don't always have the same longevity that movies can sometimes have.
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Night court was amazing. For better or worse in hindsight, The Cosby Show was the #1 show in America for years for a reason. I was too young to fully enjoy Newhart, but my parents loved it. Golden Girls, Married with Children, Family Ties were all good. And yeah, Cheers is an all time classic.

On the tv action side, you had MacGyver, the A team, Miami Vice, and the latter half of CHiPs.
 
You may remember me from such hits as "everything since 1948 is crap" and "everything since 1648 is crap."

But 99% of television before 2000 was crap. Cheers was crap. MASH was crap. All in the Family was crap. I dare you to try to watch them now.

We are living in the golden age of television by such an order of magnitude it is as if television did not exist before 2000.
 
Kepler said:
You may remember me from such hits as "everything since 1948 is crap" and "everything since 1648 is crap."

But 99% of television before 2000 was crap. Cheers was crap. MASH was crap. All in the Family was crap. I dare you to try to watch them now.

We are living in the golden age of television by such an order of magnitude it is as if television did not exist before 2000.
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You need to go sleep off the meds.
 
Slap Shot said:
Cheers still holds up as does MASH up until Henry, Radar, Frank and Trapper were all gone.
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By the standards of the day they are great. But virtually every show made before 2000 was made for a national audience. Once you feed the left side of the tail it's over. It cannot be helped. You cannot "lose your demo." You literally cannot be too direct or too subtle, or too many of the volk will be offended or confused.

Python and SCTV avoided it. Get Smart and Bullwinkle outright kicked it out in the snow. Fernwood Tonight, albeit awful, avoided it. SNL avoided it, maybe because as a late slotted show it was already shedding the Kettles.

And Twilight Zone just didn't give a fuck. Serling put his stuff out there and if you missed it fuck you, so it was great.

But all the great celebrated ground breaking shows of the 50s and 60s and 70s and 80s were literally made as pablum for toddlers, because the price of missing was too high.
 
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Kepler said:
By the standards of the day they are great. But virtually every show made before 2000 was made for a national audience.
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While your theory may be true I'm still talking about the eye test. I very much appreciate your analysis on many things but one of your weaknesses is to over-compartmentalize. One size does not always fit all and to be fair network TV in 2022 is garbage compared with 1976 or even 1986.

Where 2022 has the advantage is there is far more to offer. Dozens of networks vs. 3 (until FOX) means if you look you're going to find some gems, but the % of pure garbage is much higher.

And back to the original point - with respect to network TV vs. network TV there isn't a sitcom on ABC, CBS or NBC that compares with Cheers or MASH.
 
Kepler is the guy who insists he never eats at McDonald's and when he gets caught in line there, says he's just trying out the lifestyle of the vulgar commoners for a day so that he can better empathize with them. ;-)
 
Slap Shot said:
And back to the original point - with respect to network TV vs. network TV there isn't a sitcom on ABC, CBS or NBC that compares with Cheers or MASH.
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If your point of comparison was NETWORK television then yes. Other than the Good Place and Community I cannot think of a good network TV show of the last 20 years (though there may be some).

My point of comparison was television -- the idiot box. It would never occur to me to think about who offers what any more than "movies" would mean a particular stable of studios. I'd argue you are actually compartmentalizing here by implicitly framing as network which I do not think was in OP and which IMO is artificial and unimportant.

Unless your POV is coming from a population for whom television is still only network television, like beer is still only Miller or Bud. I will absolutely admit that never entered my mind.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Kepler is the guy who insists he never eats at McDonald's and when he gets caught in line there, says he's just trying out the lifestyle of the vulgar commoners for a day so that he can better empathize with them. ;-)
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I love the little stories you guys have about me and how I "really" think. Makes me feel like a member of your families. I aint calling anyone me-maw tho, I have my limits when slumming.
 
unofan said:
Night court was amazing. For better or worse in hindsight, The Cosby Show was the #1 show in America for years for a reason. I was too young to fully enjoy Newhart, but my parents loved it. Golden Girls, Married with Children, Family Ties were all good. And yeah, Cheers is an all time classic.

On the tv action side, you had MacGyver, the A team, Miami Vice, and the latter half of CHiPs.
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Married with children kind of spanned both, and any of the shows that had a fairly equal amount of time in both I left off the list. Loved married with children.
 
Fun(1994). Read something yesterday about Alicia Witt, Goog'd her and found she was in this movie based on a true story of these 2 teenage girls that murdered an 85 year old woman. If those 2 girls were anything like the characters portrayed by Witt and Renee Humphrey it was w t f, omg and holy shyt rolled into one.
You Tube was the only place I could find it.
 
Jurassic Park: Why Do People Pay to Watch This Crap is coming so not likely.

It amazes me how the original to this day looks better than the crappy green screen mess that is the Chris Pratt debacle. And don't get me started on how terrible Bryce Dallas Howard is...I hope the Dinosaurs win.
 
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