MLB 2010: The Second Half

[MissThundercat]

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they lose tonight and go 3 back they need to sweep for a playoff. they win and it's 2.0 back going into the series. win the first two to make sunday a playoff game (at least for the west, wc will be depending on what the braves do)

It's now win or stay home for the Padres. If they lose once this weekend, the Giants win the division. If the Padres lose and the Braves take one from the Phillies, the Braves win the wild card.

 

[jen]

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they lose tonight and go 3 back they need to sweep for a playoff. they win and it's 2.0 back going into the series. win the first two to make sunday a playoff game (at least for the west, wc will be depending on what the braves do)

If the Phillies sweep, and the Padres sweep, SD can still make it in without an extra game. And considering they just lost 3 of 4 to the Cubs in SD, I am totally sure they can sweep the Giants. sigh. both games are on MLB tonight, and one is on FOX tomorrow (I think they are at the same time, but everyone will get one of them).

on the last day of the season, is TBS really showing the Yankees and the Red Sox? who the f cares? I guess it does say "subject to change", and if the NL comes down to one game, I hope SOMEONE would show at least one meaningful game.

 

[SteveF]

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is TBS really showing the Yankees and the Red Sox? who the f cares?

um, everybody

 

[Kepler]

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on the last day of the season, is TBS really showing the Yankees and the Red Sox?

There is always the hope that a black hole will materialize in the middle of left field, obliterating both teams and their fans.

I don't know why you're complaining. The Red Sox are every bit as significant to baseball as the Colorado Rockies.

I'm sure a lot of people care about the Yankees, though. There are a quarter of a million people within arm's length who would settle for eating them.

 

[Red Cloud]

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um, everybody

Yes, this.

 

[gounhwildcats]

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It's now win or stay home for the Padres. If they lose once this weekend, the Giants win the division. If the Padres lose and the Braves take one from the Phillies, the Braves win the wild card.

Since the Phillies have basically been playing their Arizona Fall League team since clinching I'd say it's a pretty good bet the Braves will win at least one game in this series.

 

[thecomicbookguy]

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on the last day of the season, is TBS really showing the Yankees and the Red Sox? who the f cares? I guess it does say "subject to change", and if the NL comes down to one game, I hope SOMEONE would show at least one meaningful game.

I know this is about a specific instance, but every Yankees/Red Sox series tends to elicit similar complaints, as at least one of the games is the nationally broadcast game, and people want to see something else.

I think most Red Sox fans would agree with me that the NESN broadcast team is WAY better than any of the national guys (esp Buck/McCarver or Miller/Morgan). We would be THRILLED if fewer of these games were on national TV. I'm sure many Yankees fans feel the same.

 

[Kepler]

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I think most Red Sox fans would agree with me that the NESN broadcast team is WAY better than any of the national guys (esp Buck/McCarver or Miller/Morgan).

That's setting the bar pretty low. I think most fans would agree with you that the local broadcast team is WAY better than any of the national guys.

Except White Sox fans. Hawk Harrelson is dumber than Joe Morgan and more annoying than Tim McCarver, both monumental achievements.

 

[Hammer]

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Reds' victory cigars might have violated smoking ban

Tough titty. Go get hit by a truck.

 

[Kepler]

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Reds' victory cigars might have violated smoking ban

Tough titty. Go get hit by a truck.

Exactly.

 

[thecomicbookguy]

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That's setting the bar pretty low. I think most fans would agree with you that the local broadcast team is WAY better than any of the national guys.

Except White Sox fans. Hawk Harrelson is dumber than Joe Morgan and more annoying than Tim McCarver, both monumental achievements.

Well, then I don't get why the majority of non-White Sox fans care. You get to watch your game on your local network. Enjoy.

(And, I do understand Jen's point about this weekend - there are games that actually might mean something in regards to a team making the playoffs. Show that nationally; would be a nice primer for the playoffs.)

 

[JF_Gophers]

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Well, then I don't get why the majority of non-White Sox fans care. You get to watch your game on your local network. Enjoy.

Because with the opportunity to watch every game now on TV or computer you aren't just watching your local teams broadcasts anymore.

So it becomes more apparent who are the bad local broadcast teams. Otherwise no one would even know about them.

 

[Kepler]

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Because with the opportunity to watch every game now on TV or computer you aren't just watching your local teams broadcasts anymore.

So it becomes more apparent who are the bad local broadcast teams. Otherwise no one would even know about them.

There was a brief and shining moment when this was true because MLB streaming video was only the home team, but now you can watch your local team's broadcast home and away. I enjoy GKR so I watch the SNY casts exclusively, even though I could watch the other teams'. I've seen about 70 games this year and I couldn't tell you anything about any NL local cast except the Abortion That Is The Braves, because they've been garbage for 20 years, and the Joke That Was Rob Dibble For The Natinals Before He Blasphemed, because they're 20 miles away.

 

[gounhwildcats]

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There was a brief and shining moment when this was true because MLB streaming video was only the home team, but now you can watch your local team's broadcast home and away. I enjoy GKR so I watch the SNY casts exclusively, even though I could watch the other teams'. I've seen about 70 games this year and I couldn't tell you anything about any NL local cast except the Abortion That Is The Braves, because they've been garbage for 20 years, and the Joke That Was Rob Dibble For The Natinals Before He Blasphemed, because they're 20 miles away.

And if you're a Phillies fan like myself and your radio crew is better than your TV crew, you can watch the broadcast and listen to the radio (all on MLB.com). Works marvelously well, especially if you don't actually live in Philadelphia.

 

[mookie1995]

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"But sorry, this is Joey Votto's year. He's in the top three in his league in just about every offensive statistic I care about. And he's first in six of the categories I care about most -- on-base percentage, OPS, OPS-Plus, runs created, offensive winning percentage and Win Probability Added. "


help!!!

 

[jmh]

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"But sorry, this is Joey Votto's year. He's in the top three in his league in just about every offensive statistic I care about. And he's first in six of the categories I care about most -- on-base percentage, OPS, OPS-Plus, runs created, offensive winning percentage and Win Probability Added. "


help!!!

Win probability added is one I kind of like, though it has limitations (no inclusion of defense at all, for instance). At any given situation in a game (that is, what inning it is, what the score is, how many outs, runners on base), each team has a win probability, based on all the other games in the history of baseball that have had the same situation. So, to make up an example, let's say that Ryan Franklin is pitching to Joey Votto in the bottom of the 9th, two out, runner on first, Reds down by one run. In that situation, the Reds probably have a win probability that's only like 5% (0.05) and the Cardinals have a win probability that's like 95% (0.95). If Votto strikes out, his team loses the game, so their win probability goes from 0.05 to 0, and Franklin's team wins the game, so their win probability goes from 0.95 to 1. Votto gets -0.05 to his WPA, and Franklin gets +0.05.

Now, let's say Votto hits a homer and the Reds win. His team's win probability goes from 0.05 to 1, and the Cards' win probability goes from 0.95 to 0. Votto gets +0.95 to his WPA, and Franklin gets -0.95. You aggregate those additions and subtractions over the course of the season and you get an overall WPA for the player that measures (in one way, anyway) his contribution to the team's chances of winning. It's interesting because it includes clutch performance (a HR in the above situation is worth a lot more than a HR in the top of the 2nd, a HR in a close game is worth more than a HR in a blowout), but like I said it doesn't include defense at all, and... hmm, I know there are some other notable flaws with WPA, but my brain is kind of fried at the end of the week and I'm not coming up with them right now.

 

[gounhwildcats]

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Looks like the last weekend will be fun in the NL.

The Braves have already lost to the Phils tonight, and the Padres are leading the Giants 6-1 through 5 1/2.

If the Padres win they are 2 back of the Giants for the NL West and 1 back of the Braves for the wildcard.

 

[gounhwildcats]

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The Padres collars which began tightening at the end of August are getting ever tighter. Their once 6-0 lead is now a 6-4 lead and the Giants are still batting with runners at first and third with two outs in the sixth.

Fun game. The crowd at AT & T is going nuts.

 

[gounhwildcats]

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Plucky McPluckerstein may be real plucky at the plate, but his arm is pathetic (Ya I know, and in other news the sun will rise in the east).

 

[gounhwildcats]

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The Padres hang on to beat the Giants 6-4. Giants lead the NL West by 2 and the Braves lead the NL wildcard by 1.