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MLB 2010: The Second Half

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From Philly.com

Counting ghosts: The Marlins' home-attendance tally will be finalized Sunday. And how does that involve the Phillies? Well, on that day Florida will officially announce how many after-the-fact tickets it sold to souvenir-hunters for Roy Halladay's perfect game there on May 29. It's known, however, that the number is more than 10,000 and will be counted just as if actual people occupied those seats. Which is pretty amazing considering that, going into last night, the Marlins had announced crowds of less than 12,000 a total of 13 times this season. There's a joke to be made here that as many people are willing to pay good money not to watch the Marlins as those who paid to actually go to many games, but that would just be cheap and tacky.
 
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jmh said:
Win probability added is one I kind of like, though it has limitations (no inclusion of defense at all, for instance). At any given situation in a game (that is, what inning it is, what the score is, how many outs, runners on base), each team has a win probability, based on all the other games in the history of baseball that have had the same situation. So, to make up an example, let's say that Ryan Franklin is pitching to Joey Votto in the bottom of the 9th, two out, runner on first, Reds down by one run. In that situation, the Reds probably have a win probability that's only like 5% (0.05) and the Cardinals have a win probability that's like 95% (0.95). If Votto strikes out, his team loses the game, so their win probability goes from 0.05 to 0, and Franklin's team wins the game, so their win probability goes from 0.95 to 1. Votto gets -0.05 to his WPA, and Franklin gets +0.05.

Now, let's say Votto hits a homer and the Reds win. His team's win probability goes from 0.05 to 1, and the Cards' win probability goes from 0.95 to 0. Votto gets +0.95 to his WPA, and Franklin gets -0.95. You aggregate those additions and subtractions over the course of the season and you get an overall WPA for the player that measures (in one way, anyway) his contribution to the team's chances of winning. It's interesting because it includes clutch performance (a HR in the above situation is worth a lot more than a HR in the top of the 2nd, a HR in a close game is worth more than a HR in a blowout), but like I said it doesn't include defense at all, and... hmm, I know there are some other notable flaws with WPA, but my brain is kind of fried at the end of the week and I'm not coming up with them right now.
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interesting.... and honestly, the lack of defense can't be held against it - since i've yet to have any defensive 'stat' explained to me that made any sense.

this WPA actually seems logical.

thanks.
 
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Fun night at Fenway last night. :rolleyes:

JF_Gophers said:
Because with the opportunity to watch every game now on TV or computer you aren't just watching your local teams broadcasts anymore.

So it becomes more apparent who are the bad local broadcast teams. Otherwise no one would even know about them.
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So, it's even easier for fans to watch their local broadcast from anywhere? Wouldn't that make people care less about the nationally broadcast games?
 
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Fox continues to ruin baseball. I am blacked out from watching a game with actual importance (SF/SD) so I can watch what they deem is important to my area (in this case NYY/BOS). :mad:

Even their 3rd choice game (ATL/PHI) has more playoff implications than what we are getting. This isn't NY or BOS hate, they just happen to be the game being shown.

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So, it's even easier for fans to watch their local broadcast from anywhere? Wouldn't that make people care less about the nationally broadcast games?
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I thought your point was about local teams like Hawk Harrelson. Not about the national teams.
 
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Even though NY and Bos play 18 times a year (it only seems like 40), they probably still outdraw any other game by 4:1. Sad but true.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
When are the playoff game times announced typically?
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As soon as the Yankees series is decided. They will get the night games and TB will get the day games. I heard that on TV during one this weekends games. I forget which. But it makes sense. TBS wants to have the highest profile teams on in prime time.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
As soon as the Yankees series is decided. They will get the night games and TB will get the day games. I heard that on TV during one this weekends games. I forget which. But it makes sense. TBS wants to have the highest profile teams on in prime time.
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That's what I figured... I'm torn: Yankees and I get to go to the game no questions asked. Rays and I could have to ask my new boss for a half day only a week after I started...
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but we could see a game 164 played this year...

If the Braves, Giants, and Padres all tie with the same record...
 
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The Giants and Padres would play a 163rd game to determine the division title. Atlanta would then be the wild card, as they would be 1/2 game ahead of whoever lost the playoff game.
 
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Yep. Scenario #5. I think they've made that change since I was last paying attention.
 
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Check my edited post. I think that one has the updated rules. The BR page was old and I didn't mean to link to it.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Check my edited post. I think that one has the updated rules. The BR page was old and I didn't mean to link to it.
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Why not just link to the MLB page instead of Wiki? :confused: Seems like they would be the most current!

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100923&content_id=14991826&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

If two teams are tied atop the division and both are assured of making the postseason, head-to-head record would be used to determine which team is the division champ and which falls to the Wild Card.

If two teams are tied atop the division and share the Wild Card lead with another club, the ties will be broken in the following fashion:
• The teams tied atop the division will play, with the winner taking the division.
• The losing team will then play the remaining Wild Card contender, with the winner making the playoffs.

If three clubs are tied atop a division or Wild Card standings, each club would be designated in one of three slots, "A," "B," or "C." Clubs get to choose their designation based on head-to-head records. Tiebreaking games would then proceed like this:
• Club A hosts Club B on Monday, Oct. 4
• The winner of the first game hosts Club C on Oct. 5, with the winner declared champion.
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What kinda stinks is that the Padres will win the tiebreaker against both teams in head to head, but not win the division. And if the Braves somehow had a one game lead over both Padres and Giants and the Padres won tomorrow...the Padres would have won the division.

How strange.
 
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Which is why they play game 163 and game 164... So they can still win the division...
 
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If Braves and Padres have to play an extra game for WC (they both lose tomorrow) it would be in Atlanta. Not good news for the Pads having to fly across country.
 
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