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Minnesota Girls High School Hockey III

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Ideas from hselitehockey.com website on the Girls State Tournament.

I'm trying to take idea #7 to heart, but I have trouble letting it go. The tournament at Ridder would be very cool.

http://www.hselitehockey.com/news_article/show/357672?referrer_id=44823

Girls Hockey Needs Help From Within
03/07/2014, 12:45pm CST
By Jon Holmes
I had the pleasure this year of working with the Minnesota Girls Hockey Coaches Association, MGHCA, and the Minnesota State High School League, MSHSL, for the Girls State Hockey Tournament. My duties allowed for me to be present for both the AA and A games hosted at the Xcel Energy Center and Ridder Arena. In doing so this year, along with having been at most every boy’s and girl’s high school tournament over the past few decades, I have been able to observe and hopefully put forth some suggestions and a couple challenges to the girls hockey community.

In hopes of getting the MGHCA, MSHSL and MN Hockey into a more collaborative role we can try the following:


1-Place a higher value on the Girls’ State Hockey Tourney by eliminating competition for attendance. The State High School Tournament is the highlight of many top tier players’ careers. Even NHL players that have been to the Stanley Cup and the NCAA Frozen Four, rank the MN Boys’ State Tournament with their top hockey experiences. Currently, youth girls hockey district and region tournaments are held the same week as the girls’ state tournament. This effectively decreases the very population of people who would be most interested in attending the State Tournament, most especially younger girls who we want to aspire to it. Conversely, it prevents high school coaches who, after finishing the HS season, would like to support their Youth Hockey communities from attending some of their end of season games. We should fix this.

2-The X has over 60 suites. We can ask suite holders and area businesses to donate, or at the very least, make available the entire suite level for Minnesota Hockey and all its youth hockey associations to use or rent out during the tournament. Imagine the buzz of young hockey players packing the joint full, cheering and hobnobbing with each other in the most coveted level at the X. I would expect that more than a few of these energized spectators would love to come back on another day/night, even in regular seats. It would give the atmosphere a much-needed boost and it would surely create endless stories for the girls to brag about to friends and family.

3-High School Programs – Get your players to go and watch as a team. Offer it up as one last team event for the year. Get your captains to lead the charge and possibly go out to eat at Cossettas or any of the fine venues on West 7th and around the X. I guarantee it would be a tradition worth starting if your team hasn’t already! Use the buying of the state tickets early in November as incentive for your players to get to the X as a team and earn the ability to give away those tickets to their youth mentee groups once they make it there.

4-Parents – You’ve put in thousands of miles, and thousands of hours running your girls to hockey activities. The State High School Tournament is fun and exciting for students and adults alike. Give your daughter another glimpse of “the dream,” and enjoy watching her sport at its top level. Think of how cool it would be to have the X vibrantly crammed with youth girls when your young player today gets to play at the X in her own State Tourney.

5-Restaurants around the X – Run a special or two for those wearing a youth jersey. You will certainly get a few more willing parents to go out for a bite. Not to mention the ones that are less than willing will be badgered and pestered by their daughter and her friends that want the VIP status at your establishment!

6-Refrain from comparison’s to the Boys State Hockey Tournament. The Boy’s tournament has been around a lot longer and their success has come through similar ventures years ago. The only thing we should be looking to that tournament for is inspiration. Let’s concentrate on promoting from within our own ranks first, get the girls to support the girls! Who knows what will happen once we make that step.

7-Axe the “change the venue argument.” It’s exceedingly implausible that the venue of the Girls’ State Hockey Tournament will change, for a host of reasons, legal and otherwise. So, let’s embrace the venue rather than bring it down every year. The X is a top-notch setting for any event, even practicing there is amazing. Watching a game, with or without a big crowd is also an intense experience. The acoustics in the X rival that of a concert hall. You can be up in the press area, practically touching the ceiling, and hear a coach give their player the business after a missed assignment. A tiny 15-piece band can fill the place with sound and a whopping 130 one can blow you out of your seat! State-of-the-art sound panels serve to increase so many aspects of the fan’s pleasure. The same can’t be said for other rinks that are not built with the same level of technology in more ways than just sound.
 
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8.-Minnesota State High School League - Lower the price of admission. The current per seat all-session cost of $92 for adults and $60 per student is too high. For a family of four, that's $304 - not counting parking and concessions. That easily exceeds the cost of attending the NATIONAL women's D1 NCAA Frozen Four Championship, which for a family of four costs just $80, a relative bargain.
 
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EDIT: I agree 100% that we need to do more & may have to be creative in looking for ways to increase attendance so nothing that follows is criticism. The is as good a starting point as any.
#1 - I doubt the MSHL will move dates as the calendar is too crowded at that time of year. It would require youth hockey to move their dates & they are not going to go earlier I don't think.
#2 - those suites are fat tax write-offs & anything that might affect that is not going to happen though I really like the idea.
#3&4 - depressing to think these are not happening & needed to be suggested.
#5 - Nice idea but I think many of them see the X as a cash cow & not their lookout. Maybe if Minnesota Hockey contacted them & asked.
#6 - I'm old enough to remember tournaments that did not sell out. You could buy scalped tickets in the alley behind the civic center for .50. It takes time. Also, if you notice the boys have a lot of empty seats for many games. But I agree with your point about getting the girls out for the games, fits with 3&4.
#7 - The X is a lousy place to watch a hockey game but it is what modern arenas are so we have to live with it. While I agree with the intent of forcing the move there, the reality is games played in front of 16,000 empty seats & that is depressing. The last year at Ridder was much more electric. But that is not an argument worth having. We need to figure out how to get butts into those seats.

8.-Minnesota State High School League - Lower the price of admission.
I assume this is in part because of the choice of venue, its expensive to have an empty X available. Until recently I had no vacation time for the tourneys but that has changed in the last couple of years & might try to make a week of it. Those prices are cheap compared to a lot of stuff but for a family already strapped with ice time charges (half-joke) that does seem steep.
 
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Some interesting results lately. Some recaps from the Stribs Girls Hockey Hub:

http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/

Some increasing evidence on who's likely to be playing for the section 4AA title when the time comes.

Scoring Leaders Update:

http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/page/show/1483885-2014-2015-leaders

Interesting, I see they now list college commitment on the individual's roster page. I didn't see where they had an aggregate list though.
 
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I see on this page Emma May is still listed as a Minnesota commit.

According to a "Villager" (a Highland Park area neighborhood newspaper) article I read a couple of weeks ago she is coming in as a recruited walk-on.
 
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Latest 'Let's Play Hockey' rankings:

Class AA
1 EDEN PRAIRIE (10)
2 Maple Grove
3 Roseau
4 Hill-Murray
5 Minnetonka
6 Edina
7 Wayzata
8 Dodge County
9 Lakeville South
10 Lakeville North
11 Elk River/Zimmerman
12 Cretin-Derham Hall
13 Chaska/Chanhassen
14 Hopkins
15 Stillwater Area
16 Mounds View
17 Buffalo
18 Benilde-St. Margaret's
19 Blaine
20 Rochester John Marshall

Class A
1 BLAKE (10)
2 Breck
3 Thief River Falls
4 Warroad
5 East Grand Forks
6 Red Wing
7 St. Paul United
8 Orono
9 Proctor/Hermantown
10 New Prague
11 South St. Paul
12 Moose Lake Area
13 Alexandria
14 Mound Westonka
15 Hibbing/Chisholm
16 Mankato East/Loyola
17 Princeton
18 Northfield
19 Chisago Lakes Area
20 New Ulm
 
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Very cool venue for tomorrow's Hockey Day in Minnesota: "Hockey Day 2015 will take place on a fully active airfield with Blackhawk and Chinook helicopters and cargo jets surrounding the ice and various aircraft taking off, landing and taxiing behind it."

"I think it's going to be the highlight of (these girls') season," said Cretin-Derham Hall girls coach and former Gophers and NHL player John Pohl. Pohl's wife Krissy, who also played at Minnesota and represented the United States in two Olympic Games, is a Raiders assistant."

http://www.foxsports.com/north/story/hockey-day-minnesota-preview-a-military-appreciation-011515
 
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8.-Minnesota State High School League - Lower the price of admission. The current per seat all-session cost of $92 for adults and $60 per student is too high. For a family of four, that's $304 - not counting parking and concessions. That easily exceeds the cost of attending the NATIONAL women's D1 NCAA Frozen Four Championship, which for a family of four costs just $80, a relative bargain.

Amen!
 
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Game of note: Edina broke #1 Eden Prairie's unbeaten string in OT last night. EP jumped out to the lead but couldn't hold it, they ended tied and the WASPs netted the winner in OT
 
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Interesting that only 2 /10 are committed to Minnesota and Wisconsin (1 each), with 4 going to the east coast. A tad unusual isn't it?
Not so much for Wisconsin, but yes it is unusual for the Gophers to bring in just two Minnesota skaters (Tianna Gunderson being a late addition).
 
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