Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

[carltonbarrett]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Talent wise it feels like a depth issue. This team's top 2 lines are as good as there's been post Walsh. No body's going to touch the 90s so don't watse your time talking about it, but really, this is a team that was winning with Ben Murphy playing second line minutes. The top 6 six this year are world's better then Murph, IMHO. It's hunger and executuon; talent wise the top six are legit. Having said that, the next two are a major drop off.They can't roll four lines and it shows

Maybe this group is up there compared to other Whitehead recruited teams, but not even close to the teams through 2004 that were made up of mostly Walsh recruits.

 

[KnowItAll]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Relax guys. You're going to beat BC next Sunday and Maine will be "back" again.

is Gibbons playing goalie without a goalie stick just to make it even?

 

[MichaelMaineFan]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Timid, Timid Tim has to go. Buy out his contract and get a coach with fire in his belly to take the helm. Buy out his contract and send him packing, please. If UM wants a money making machine, wants national exposure, wants a big money maker in the athletic program, then fire the coach and get a replacement. Do it, and do it soon. Forget the good intentions, this is a business decision.
Forget the past Frozen Four appearances of days gone by when Tim took over for Walsh. It was simply coat tail stuff. You know it, we know it and those appearances will not happen again with Tim at the helm. Tim, you're a good man, you're nice, have a nice family, etc. But you are NOT the kind of coach needed at UM to bring the trophies home to the Alfond. Tim is only mediocre, much the same as he was at UMass-Lowell (Division 1). He's already reached the pinnacle of his career, I am sorry to say. UM, stop hand wringing over this and get a new coach before Maine becomes nothing more than a mid-level team, forever more. Do it, fire him. It's past time and has been for years. Do it, fire him and move FORWARD and UPWARD. Please. For all of us who love Maine hockey, fire him.

 

[walrus]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Next Sundays HOME game vs BC,has the time been changed from 4 pm to 7 pm..?

Thats what Hannigan was saying, I hate 7pm sunday games

 

[KnowItAll]

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[Carmine Scarpaglia]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Thats what Hannigan was saying, I hate 7pm sunday games

It says 7 pm on the HEonline website right now.

 

[walrus]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

It says 7 pm on the HEonline website right now.

Pats or watching Maine lose, hmmmmm

 

[sandiegoblkbr]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

WT*?Maine gets 34 SOG and scores once,then surrenders 7 goals on 33 shots..?
(...OK,it's another screwy year all around the country,but Maine is looking predictably down again in the 2nd half so far.)

I don't know if it had an impact on the outcome of the game,but I scratched my head to see Cornell and Mangene flip-flop positions,when both seemed to be hitting their stride playing where they were.

Tim is just not getting it done.He has enough talent on hand (finally) to get back in the national picture.If he drops the ball again,he needs to step aside before Maine follows the road to irrelevance a la Lake State and Northern Michigan.We need a true steward of the program at the helm.

Haven't we heard this one before???

Maine doesn't fire coaches......we're stuck with him until he is ready to collect Social Security.

 

[sandiegoblkbr]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Looks a lot like last season, huh, with our inspiring under .500 record getting people all excited about a national championship run.

Why is it that the longer Timid Tim avails the team of his coaching prowess, the worse they play? Start off a new season going gangbusters, full of jump, edginess and excitement, and TimiD Tim coaches it all right out of them by December.

It does happen every year.......why is it that only the "internet nutcases" recognize this???

 

[sandiegoblkbr]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Timid, Timid Tim has to go. Buy out his contract and get a coach with fire in his belly to take the helm. Buy out his contract and send him packing, please. If UM wants a money making machine, wants national exposure, wants a big money maker in the athletic program, then fire the coach and get a replacement. Do it, and do it soon. Forget the good intentions, this is a business decision.
Forget the past Frozen Four appearances of days gone by when Tim took over for Walsh. It was simply coat tail stuff. You know it, we know it and those appearances will not happen again with Tim at the helm. Tim, you're a good man, you're nice, have a nice family, etc. But you are NOT the kind of coach needed at UM to bring the trophies home to the Alfond. Tim is only mediocre, much the same as he was at UMass-Lowell (Division 1). He's already reached the pinnacle of his career, I am sorry to say. UM, stop hand wringing over this and get a new coach before Maine becomes nothing more than a mid-level team, forever more. Do it, fire him. It's past time and has been for years. Do it, fire him and move FORWARD and UPWARD. Please. For all of us who love Maine hockey, fire him.

Awesome post! The old fuddie duddies at Maine don't have the balls to do it though! TIMMAY is probably a great golfing partner and a "family man"......a swell guy shoot the sh*t with. That is ALL they care about.

I'd like to see Maine's new Gov LePage announce that ALL public funding to UMaine's athletic dept. will cease to exist........that would throw a wrench in it all. Then MAYBE, the dept. would be run like a business.......when the only $$$ coming in would be from hockey's gate and t-shirt sales.

 

[MEpucknut]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

I cannot help but chuckle when I think about receiving this years season ticket renewal form and recalling the theme... " The future is now for Maine Hockey" I think there is some truth to that as long as TIMMAY is at the helm. God help us!!

Wonder what next years will be?

 

[RENCEB]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

I felt the 5x5 game was pretty even and Maine skated well; the final was 7-1 but I don't think the play was indicutative of that. What I mean is, against Miami they got their azzes kicked; this wasn't that kind of game.

Wow, I think that pretty much ANY time you lose 7-1, it qualifies as an azz-kicking.

 

[GoBlackBears]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Pats or watching Maine lose, hmmmmm

What you don't want to watch York out coach TIMMAY once again?

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Timid, Timid Tim has to go. Buy out his contract and get a coach with fire in his belly to take the helm. Buy out his contract and send him packing, please. If UM wants a money making machine, wants national exposure, wants a big money maker in the athletic program, then fire the coach and get a replacement. Do it, and do it soon. Forget the good intentions, this is a business decision.
Forget the past Frozen Four appearances of days gone by when Tim took over for Walsh. It was simply coat tail stuff. You know it, we know it and those appearances will not happen again with Tim at the helm. Tim, you're a good man, you're nice, have a nice family, etc. But you are NOT the kind of coach needed at UM to bring the trophies home to the Alfond. Tim is only mediocre, much the same as he was at UMass-Lowell (Division 1). He's already reached the pinnacle of his career, I am sorry to say. UM, stop hand wringing over this and get a new coach before Maine becomes nothing more than a mid-level team, forever more. Do it, fire him. It's past time and has been for years. Do it, fire him and move FORWARD and UPWARD. Please. For all of us who love Maine hockey, fire him.

What STINK's the MOST about the Contract Extension was that it was his Buddy,Blake James who put that thru,all along knowing he was bolting Maine..(and good riddance to that..)..sooner then later...a real A.D. would have given him ONLY a 1 year Extension and that would have given the incoming New A.D. a chance to gauge him and not be hog-tied to a 3 year deal that he had no input...so that put's the New A.D. right behind the 8-ball...his hands are tied to a major mistake,with only one solution is having the guts to take Deep-Pocket donors money after the 1st year of his Extension and showing TW the door...but thats JUST imo ONLY.

 

[rufus]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Thats the other thing, these guys don't hit a soul, IMHO its fear of getting benched. I know Corkum and Anthoine will wreck guys if given the chance.

And as a result, no one's afraid of playing against them. Looking over their shoulder before going into the corner after a puck, hurrying a pass, or looking up before receiving one. They're not beaten up and worn down late in the game. I missed most of the first two periods yesterday, but Hannigan said Merrimack came out in the first and just obliterated the Maine forwards every chance they got, basically just took control over them with agressive and physical play.

 

[Howitz-ah]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

CS...I like your backhanded sentiment about next sunday's prediction, but to be honest....Maine could win that game 10-0 and at this point, it wouldn't convince me of anything. They can run up the score at home. Great. big ****ing deal. We already know that. Opponents don't matter.

Their record away from alfond is what? 3-5-3?? Their wins?? Overtime against tanked Vermont; overtime against unranked Cornell; and Providence. Wooooo!!!!

ONE regulation win away from home. How AWFUL is that?? HOW have pollsters kept this team top 10??

 

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

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CS...I like your backhanded sentiment about next sunday's prediction, but to be honest....Maine could win that game 10-0 and at this point, it wouldn't convince me of anything. They can run up the score at home. Great. big ****ing deal. We already know that. Opponents don't matter.

I really do see a Maine win here. BC is rolling and due for a loss. Maine is going to be ticked about getting rammed from behind yesterday and getting smoked by BC in the prior two games at Conte (despite what BobF might say about the fact that they outshot BC). I guess we'll have to wait and see.

But I do agree it wouldn't really change my opinion of Maine much.

 

[Hockeypuck]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Have to love the quotes from the article on the BDN website. One thing Whitehead forgets to say is that "our so-called coach is also an embarrassment."


“Against a strong team in their own rink, you’ve got to pay the price and play harder than that,” said Maine coach Tim Whitehead. “Their top players outplayed our top players. Our so-called first line (Robby Dee between Gustav Nyquist and Brian Flynn) was an embarrassment.”


“We didn’t come to play today,” said Dee

“Take nothing away from them. They took it to us pretty good in all areas of the ice. After that first goal, we stopped playing,” said Dee

“We got outworked again. They came out a little hungrier than we did and it definitely swung the tide,” said Maine senior defenseman and assistant captain Jeff Dimmen

 

[fiqure8]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

THERE it is!

I tried to be positive. I tried, I tried, I tried.

Please remember that I previously started the thread asking: Does Tim deserve credit?!?!

A team with our talent doesn't get outshot 34-15 by anyone.
A team with our talent doesn't lose a game 7-1.
A team with our talent doesn't choke away a 2 goal lead in the last 9 minutes at home against your top rival.

We've played ONE good weekend of hockey as far as I'm concerned. Aside from that North Dakota weekend, we are 0-6-2 against Teams Under Consideration.

0-6-2

.....

A team with the talent of Nyquist, Abbott, Diamond, Flynn, Dee, O'Neill, Dimmen and House; coupled with the intensity of Mangene, Cornell, O'Connor, Anthoine and Corkum; Coupled with the smarts of Andersson and Nemec; Coupled with the heart of Shemansky and Amestoy.....with a couple of young goalies who, more nights than not, can keep their team in the game....

Teams like that do not go 0-6-2 against legit competition!!

THIS IS PATHETIC...ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASSING AND PATHETIC, TIM!!!

If this were a professional sports team with this much talent, and so many expectations performing like this, his *** would be CANNED had it not been a long time ago. I'm officially ****ED again.

HEY! Mike Cornell has been an intense, reliable defenseman leading hockey east in +/- through the 1st two months. Though, with 1 goal in 42 games played, he's shown practically nothing offensively. BETTER PLAY HIM AT FORWARD

AND HEY! Matt Mangene has been our best skater, our best forechecker, a versatile forward who is great on the PK, and he is creating a lot of scoring opportunities and getting a lot of helpers not usually found on a 3rd line. BETTER PLAY HIM ON DEFENSE WHERE HE CAN BE A -4 IN A SINGLE GAME

"Oh, I'd like to keep him on defense. It's his natural position"....got news for you, Tim. Minus a few freak games, he's been a forward this year, last year, and the year before in Manchester. If he has played defense exclusively in the past it was, at minimum, FOUR ****ing seasons ago, and against much lesser competition. He's a forward. An effective one on the 3rd line at that. Get over it, AND STOP ****ING AROUND!

Seriously?? What is Tim's mental handicap???....because if he has one, I'll lighten up.

The 2 shorthanded goals was a also a real back breaker. Do u think they brought Dimmen back too early..............didn't think he skated well yesterday

 

[walrus]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Have to love the quotes from the article on the BDN website. One thing Whitehead forgets to say is that "our so-called coach is also an embarrassment."


“Against a strong team in their own rink, you’ve got to pay the price and play harder than that,” said Maine coach Tim Whitehead. “Their top players outplayed our top players. Our so-called first line (Robby Dee between Gustav Nyquist and Brian Flynn) was an embarrassment.”


“We didn’t come to play today,” said Dee

“Take nothing away from them. They took it to us pretty good in all areas of the ice. After that first goal, we stopped playing,” said Dee

“We got outworked again. They came out a little hungrier than we did and it definitely swung the tide,” said Maine senior defenseman and assistant captain Jeff Dimmen

Love those, we quit statements from our senior leadership