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Japan hit by 8.9 Magnitude Quake, Tsunami Warnings In Effect

Re: Japan hit by 8.9 Magnitude Quake, Tsunami Warnings In Effect

Japan raised the disaster level from a 4 to a 5(out of 7), Three mile island was a 5, Chernobyl was a 7, and these guys expect me to believe this anything but a 6 borderline 7. No wonder the citizens of Japan are questioning their leadership
 
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guess this sums it up

Status of quake-stricken reactors at Fukushima nuclear power plants
TOKYO, March 19, Kyodo

The following is the known status as of Friday night of each of the six reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant and the four reactors at the Fukushima Daini plant, both in Fukushima Prefecture, which were crippled by the magnitude 9.0 earthquake and the ensuing tsunami on March 11.

Fukushima Daiichi plant

-- Reactor No. 1 - Operation suspended after quake, cooling failure, partial melting of core, vapor vented, building housing reactor damaged March 12 by hydrogen explosion, roof blown off, seawater being pumped in.

-- Reactor No. 2 - Operation suspended after quake, cooling failure, seawater being pumped in, fuel rods fully exposed temporarily, vapor vented, building housing reactor damaged Monday by blast at reactor No. 3, blast sound heard near suppression chamber of containment vessel on Tuesday, damage to containment structure feared.

-- Reactor No. 3 - Operation suspended after quake, cooling failure, partial melting of core feared, vapor vented, seawater being pumped in, building housing reactor badly damaged Monday by hydrogen explosion, high-level radiation measured nearby on Tuesday, plume of smoke observed Wednesday and presumed to have come from spent-fuel storage pool, seawater dumped over pool by helicopter on Thursday, water sprayed at it from ground on Thursday and Friday.

-- Reactor No. 4 - Under maintenance when quake struck, no fuel rods in reactor core, temperature in spent-fuel storage pool reached 84 C on Monday, fire Tuesday possibly caused by hydrogen explosion at pool holding spent fuel rods, fire observed Wednesday at building housing reactor, pool water level feared receding, renewed nuclear chain reaction feared, only frame remains of reactor building roof.

-- Reactors No. 5, 6 - Under maintenance when quake struck, some fuel rods left in reactor cores, water temperatures in spent-fuel storage pools increased to about 64 C on Thursday.

-- Spent-fuel storage pools - Cooling functions lost at reactors No. 1 to 4, water temperatures or levels unobservable at reactors No. 1 to 4, no immediate threat to water level at common spent fuel pool.

Fukushima Daini plant

-- Reactors No. 1, 2, 4 - Operation suspended after quake, cooling failure, then cold shutdown.

-- Reactor No. 3 - Operation suspended after quake, cold shutdown.

==Kyodo
 
Re: Japan hit by 8.9 Magnitude Quake, Tsunami Warnings In Effect

More good news!

"Radiation is good for you."

So are brain tumors and heart attacks.
 
Re: Japan hit by 8.9 Magnitude Quake, Tsunami Warnings In Effect

they have gotten a power transmission line into the plant. now to see if the pumps can still work. upgraded from a 4 (scale of 1-7) to a 5.
 
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I'm not all that concerned about tsunamis striking the US coasts (certainly not of the 20ft+ variety). If water is your fear, then you should direct your attention to major hurricanes and their massive storm surge.

hurricanes don't sneak up on you without warning... and even then, for enough of them you have some place to hide.
 
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I didn't know that half of Japan has 50Hz electricity and the other half has 60Hz, a fact that is really biting them in the *** now.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/03/tech-legacy-tokyo/

Hadn't thought about that. The dividing line is about at Nagoya. Tokyo and Sendai are one frequency, Osaka and south/west are the other.

NPR was saying this AM that while they've brought in a power line, it's not operating yet. And there's no saying whether the systems will work until they energize it.

They also said that the Japanese government have acknowledged that vegetables grown in the area of the plant are showing higher levels of radioactive contamination. Not hazardous, but higher than typically allowed by Japanese law.
 
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Hadn't thought about that. The dividing line is about at Nagoya. Tokyo and Sendai are one frequency, Osaka and south/west are the other.

NPR was saying this AM that while they've brought in a power line, it's not operating yet. And there's no saying whether the systems will work until they energize it.

They also said that the Japanese government have acknowledged that vegetables grown in the area of the plant are showing higher levels of radioactive contamination. Not hazardous, but higher than typically allowed by Japanese law.

I think I will be skipping the sushi and the Kobe beef for a while.:eek:
 
Re: Japan hit by 8.9 Magnitude Quake, Tsunami Warnings In Effect

#6 has power is up and running (well, I mean the pumps) and the temp is dropping. YEAH!
 
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IAEA report on the reactors:

Unit 1

Coolant within Unit 1 is covering about half of the fuel rods in the reactor, leading to fuel damage. High pressure within the reactor's containment led operators to vent gas from the containment. Later, an explosion destroyed the outer shell of the reactor building above the containment on 12 March.

There are no indications of problems with either the reactor pressure vessel or the primary containment vessel.

Efforts to pump seawater into the reactor core are continuing.

On 18 March, Japan assigned an INES rating of 5 to this unit. Further information on the ratings and the INES scale.

Unit 2

Coolant within Unit 2 is covering about half of the fuel rods in the reactor, leading to fuel damage. Following an explosion on 15 March, Japanese officials expressed concerns that the reactor's containment may not be fully intact. NISA officials reported on 18 March that white smoke continues to emerge from the building.

Efforts to pump seawater into the reactor core are continuing.

On 18 March, Japan assigned an INES rating of 5 to this unit.

Unit 3

Coolant within Unit 3 is covering about half of the fuel rods in the reactor, leading to fuel damage. High pressure within the reactor's containment led operators to vent gas from the containment. Later, an explosion destroyed the outer shell of the reactor building above the containment on 14 March.

Following the explosion, Japanese officials expressed concerns that the reactor's containment may not be fully intact. NISA officials reported on 18 March that white smoke continues to emerge from the building.

Efforts to pump seawater into the reactor core are continuing.

Of additional concern at Unit 3 is the condition of the spent fuel pool in the building. There are indications that there is an inadequate cooling water level in the pool, and Japanese authorities have addressed the problem by dropping water from helicopters into the building and spraying water from trucks. On 18 March, Japanese Self Defence Forces used seven fire trucks to continue spraying efforts. There is no data on the temperature of the water in the pool.

On 18 March, Japan assigned an INES rating of 5 to this unit.

Unit 4

All fuel had been removed from the reactor core for routine maintenance before the earthquake and placed into the spent fuel pool. A portion of the building's outer shell was damaged by the explosion at Unit 3 on 14 March, and there have been two reported fires - possibly including one in the spent fuel pool on 15 March -- that extinguished spontaneously, although smoke remained visible on 18 March.

Authorities remain concerned about the condition of the spent fuel pool.

On 18 March, Japan assigned an INES rating of 4 to this site.

Unit 5 and 6

Shut down before the earthquake, there are no immediate concerns about these reactors' cores or containment. Instrumentation from both spent fuel pools, however, has shown gradually increasing temperatures. Officials have configured two diesel generators at Unit 6 to power water circulation in the spent fuel pools and cores of Units 5 and 6.

Workers have opened holes in the roofs of both buildings to prevent the possible accumulation of hydrogen, which is suspected of causing explosions at other units.

Restoration of Grid

Progress has been achieved in restoring external power to the nuclear power plant, although it remains uncertain when full power will be available.

Evacuation

Japanese authorities have informed the IAEA that the evacuation of the population from the 20-kilometre zone around Fukushima Daiichi has been successfully completed. Japanese authorities have also advised people living within 30 kilometres of the plant to remain inside.

Iodine

On 16 March, Japan's Nuclear Safety Commission recommended local authorities to instruct evacuees leaving the 20-kilometre area to ingest stable (not radioactive) iodine. The pills and syrup (for children) had been prepositioned at evacuation centers. The order recommended taking a single dose, with an amount dependent on age:

Baby 12.5 mg

1 mo.-3 yrs. 25mg

3-13 yrs. 38mg

13-40 yrs. 76mg

40+ yrs. Not necessary

Radiation Measurements

Radiation levels near Fukushima Daiichi and beyond have elevated since the reactor damage began. However, dose rates in Tokyo and other areas outside the 30-kilometre zone remain far from levels which would require any protective action. In other words they are not dangerous to human health.

At the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, radiation levels spiked three times since the earthquake, but have stabilized since 16 March at levels which are, although significantly higher than the normal levels, within the range that allows workers to continue onsite recovery measures.
 
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Kepler-Thanks for that inclusive report. My only question is the recommendation to give zero iodide to anyone age 40+. Perhaps that is the newest thinking but my training from many years ago was to treat up to age 65. I guess things change.:eek:
 
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hurricanes don't sneak up on you without warning... and even then, for enough of them you have some place to hide.

The vast majority of hurricane deaths are a direct result of storm surge in low lying areas. The rest of the victims are unlucky--being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The storm surge of the great Galveston Hurricane of 1900 killed between 6K and 12K people. Far and away the worst natural disaster in our history. Subsequently, virtually the entire city was raised about 15 feet and an enormous seawall was constructed to protect it. Among the hundreds of heart breaking stories from that disaster was the discovery of a length of rope sticking out from the sand. Turns out the rope was attached to the body of a child. Further exploration revealed another child and another and another. Ultimately, at the end of the rope, the body of a nun who had tried to save the children under her care by lashing them all to her and each other. When you're on the receiving end, there's very little difference between a tsunami and a storm surge, except for our ability to predict the onset of the latter far more accurately than the former. The Japanese have invested tens of millions in a tsunami warning system. Despite the thousands of lives lost, that system probably prevented tens of thousands of additional deaths.
 
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the great Galveston Hurricane of 1900 killed between 6K and 12K people.
I read a good book about that a few years ago. I think it's called Isaac's Storm. Recommended.
 
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I read a good book about that a few years ago. I think it's called Isaac's Storm. Recommended.

There was a two part documentary (History Channel?) that was based on the book, I think. Wasn't Isaac the head of the weather service in Galveston? The guy who predicted the storm? IIRC he and his family and friends holed up in his home as the storm hit. At one point they looked out the window and saw a locomotive being driven toward the house by the storm surge!
 
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Was that the Galveston disaster with the enormous explosion (chemical drum) that took out a big section of the city? Or is that just a doomed place.

Edit: no, that happened 10 miles away in the Texas City ammonium nitrate fire of 1948.
 
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Was that the Galveston disaster with the enormous explosion (chemical drum) that took out a big section of the city? Or is that just a doomed place.

Edit: no, that happened 10 miles away in the Texas City ammonium nitrate fire of 1948.

Don't forget the BP explosion in Texas City about 10-15 years ago. Killed quite a few people.
 
Re: Japan hit by 8.9 Magnitude Quake, Tsunami Warnings In Effect

Was that the Galveston disaster with the enormous explosion (chemical drum) that took out a big section of the city? Or is that just a doomed place.

Edit: no, that happened 10 miles away in the Texas City ammonium nitrate fire of 1948.

Exactly. After the hurricane, Galveston began burying the dead at sea, until the bodies began washing up on shore. So they switched to burning them. Somehow Edison got a photographer on the island shortly after the storm, so there's some very early film of the aftermath.

The toughest call the Mayor of Galveston has to make these days is when to close the causway. Because once that decision is made, nobody's getting off the island. Galveston really got whacked with that hurricane a couple of years ago (Ike?). It pretty much destroyed the historic down town district known as the Strand--many of the Strand buildings survived the 1900 storm.
 
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