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Japan hit by 8.9 Magnitude Quake, Tsunami Warnings In Effect

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The toughest call the Mayor of Galveston has to make these days is when to close the causway. Because once that decision is made, nobody's getting off the island.

I'm sure this is a dumb before coffee question but, why close it then?
 
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When it gets more dangerous to try to cross than to stay on the island?

I was more thinking to have a cut off to encourage people not to wait until the last minute.
 
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Galveston is one of those places that people just shouldn't live. See also: New Orleans
 
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I'm sure this is a dumb before coffee question but, why close it then?

People getting washed off by high winds and waves. Before Hurricane Ike authorities ordered mandatory evacuations, even so an estimated 20 thousand people stayed behind. Some were emergency services types, of course, but the majority were civilians "Ah've lived here all mah life and I ain't a goin' anywhere."
 
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Galveston is one of those places that people just shouldn't live. See also: New Orleans

But there are major differences. Galveston's sea wall works. NO's defenses not so much. After 1900, the city of Galveston was literally raised about 15 feet to make it less likely of having another disaster. NO is always going to be below sea level. If a storm is heading toward either place, your best bet is to get out. Galveston took a direct hit from Ike and though heavily damaged, survived without massive casualties. Recall that when Katrina made landfall we were all saying "NO had dodged a bullet," (I was working on the air that morning and said exactly that) the storm had changed course shortly before landfall and the worst of it missed the city altogether. Then those levees began to fail. NO is much more dangerous, relying as it does on Louisiana politicians for its protection.
 
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People getting washed off by high winds and waves. Before Hurricane Ike authorities ordered mandatory evacuations, even so an estimated 20 thousand people stayed behind. Some were emergency services types, of course, but the majority were civilians "Ah've lived here all mah life and I ain't a goin' anywhere."

Many stayed because they didn't want to be part of a repeat of the cluster fark before Rita.
 
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Many stayed because they didn't want to be part of a repeat of the cluster fark before Rita.

Sure, sure. These things never seem to go exactly where they're supposed to. But potentially you pay a very high price if you're wrong. And mayors and public safety officials really have no option. What's the worst thing that can happen if you evacuate and the hurricane bypasses your home? Well, you get a nice little mini-vacation, spend a night or two in a motel, and get to eat some second rate meals. And if you do evacuate and your home is heavily damaged, the looters can go about their work without fear that you'll be interrupting them.
 
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back on topic.

reactor #1 had / is having a release of 500mSv. German press is confirming.
 
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That blog seems to be run by people who don't know the different between milli and micro. Methinks this is 400 microsieverts. If it's 400 millisieverts, that's a problem. A big, big problem.
 
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the reuters thread is similar to this one - some experts, some knowledgeable, some foolish . there is a moderator 24/7 who seems to screen the very foolish.
Welt says mille. do they have some kind of inside info? one thing for sure TEPCo either - has no idea what is going on / or isn't telling.
 
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That blog seems to be run by people who don't know the different between milli and micro. Methinks this is 400 microsieverts. If it's 400 millisieverts, that's a problem. A big, big problem.

Most reporters probably couldn't convert centimeters to meters, let alone understand microsieverts ( I don't either but you don't see me posting about it).

I wish when people posted facts that their background/qualifications were readily available. That way I know weather or not to read on or just skip, as in the case of the blog you cited.
 
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oops. Japanese nuclear commission is saying it was micro not mille. they most sincerely apologize for the mistake. why then were the workers removed?
did they think it was mille for awhile? crazy.

some of the folks on the thread have put their credentials up. nuclear plant engineers, operators, academics, etc. but you'd have to read waaay back to see who is who. the international time differences screw stuff up too.
 
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oops. Japanese nuclear commission is saying it was micro not mille. they most sincerely apologize for the mistake. why then were the workers removed?
did they think it was mille for awhile? crazy.

some of the folks on the thread have put their credentials up. nuclear plant engineers, operators, academics, etc. but you'd have to read waaay back to see who is who. the international time differences screw stuff up too.

oh i know. I was generally referring to anti-nuclear pundits outside of this web page ( greenpeace for example). As I said a few pages back, the expertise here has made for good and informative reading. My friend was an NSO at seabrook station and its nice to have knowledgable friends set the record strait. There are too many mathematically declined idiots out there.

On a more general note, I hope that this doesn't avert or slow the growth of nuclear power as a global energy source. Anyone in any field in engineering understands that mistakes happen no matter how well its planned in the design process, but the key is to learn and move on henseforth. Look at the tacoma narrows bridge, and how far our design has come since. As it is, nuclear accounts for 20% of the US energy, and something like 15% worldwide. Rather than villianize nuclear via the japan incident, it would be a much greater service to honor them by learning from what went wrong and being prepared because of it. /soap box
 
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A great chart helping to visualize how much radiation the plant emits, compared to other things such as flying or X-Rays.

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