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Illegal Immigration Pt. III: It's Illegal to be Illegal? Really?

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Hey, if your state had just offered my wife a job just a week sooner, it'd be my state too.

But no, they just had to wait until the day before she started a different job to offer her the job she'd interviewed for 7 weeks prior.
 
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unofan said:
Hey, if your state had just offered my wife a job just a week sooner, it'd be my state too.

But no, they just had to wait until the day before she started a different job to offer her the job she'd interviewed for 7 weeks prior.
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Well, too bad it didn't work out, or you could be here and understand what's actually happening in Arizona a bit more.

Hey, I would have been glad to help explain it a bit more to you! ;)
 
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Bob Gray said:
Well, too bad it didn't work out, or you could be here and understand what's actually happening in Arizona a bit more.

Hey, I would have been glad to help explain it a bit more to you! ;)
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If your state wasn't so effing hot it would be my state too. So, you have that to thank. ;)
 
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amherstblackbear said:
My fault for assuming you read the crap that you write on this board.
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One has nothing to do with the other. Some of us here have also been at work, but hardly felt the need to crow about how awesome you are because you parachuted in with old news... you're so far above us because YOU HAVE A JOB AND YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR JOB so therefore taking 10 seconds to look back 2 whole pages is totally something you're unable to do.

Please, spare me your holier than thou act.
 
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Kepler said:
If your state wasn't so effing hot it would be my state too. So, you have that to thank. ;)
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And you were thinking southern AZ too if my memory serves? So you'd be down in the thick of things. That'd be interesting to hear your perspectives after having lived this stuff regularly.

Oh, and we're a balmy 98 degrees at the moment, so I don't know what you're talking about!
 
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amherstblackbear said:
+1

Would you please share your sense of humor with RC?

Thanks!
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A) I'm sorry that you can't take a good-natured joke.
B) I'm sorry that you and your co-workers can't actively follow the news or take 10 seconds to read what others are saying about the news during your shift on stage.

Happy now, or do you need to cry some more?
 
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Red Cloud said:
A) I'm sorry that you can't take a good-natured joke.
B) I'm sorry that you and your co-workers can't actively follow the news or take 10 seconds to read what others are saying about the news during your shift on stage.

Happy now, or do you need to cry some more?
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Someone needs their afternoon nap. That or a beer.
 
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unofan said:
Someone needs their afternoon nap. That or a beer.
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I could use more than the 4 hours of sleep that I'm averaging per night, yes. Beer is always a solution so that's a good choice too.
 
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Red Cloud said:
I could use more than the 4 hours of sleep that I'm averaging per night, yes. Beer is always a solution so that's a good choice too.
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How about a beer while napping?
 
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What is the harm the Feds are going to suffer if this law stood?
 
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walrus said:
What is the harm the Feds are going to suffer if this law stood?
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Ego and questionably ballot box.

Their argument is basically, I'm a mover and I've got this big piano to move, and I'm really struggling by myself, so someone comes alongside to help lift the load, and I refuse their help, claiming it somehow harms me, while I labor to budge the piano on my own.
 
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Ugh.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38452638/ns/politics?GT1=43001

Immigration is a volatile issue in Washington. Battle lines are drawn between Democrats, who want a system of documenting illegals to allow them to work in addition to improved border security, and Republicans, who mainly want tougher border enforcement.
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I don't care if it's true or not. Just reading those words enrages me.

Make the immigration process more straightforward? Fine, whatever. It's not like it took much to get through Ellis Island.

But to just willy-nilly document illegals and willfully do nothing about them just baffles me. These people would be better off just skipping the rhetoric and being honest about their desires to eradicate our sovereign borders.
 
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unofan said:
Not that I'm in favor of the santcuary cities, but it's not their job to enforce the federal law. No city really does, in fact, at most there's co-operation where there's dual jurisdiction and a gentleman's agreement to help one another when asked.

Generally speaking, sanctuary cities are just being publicity whores for doing what every other city does and describing it in a way that's somewhat misleading. The only thing that might be substantively different is their unwillingness to pass along information. Which is a dickish move, but really not an illegal one.

It's really no different than medicinal marijuana cities. The feds, if they chose, could go in and arrest every pothead in every one of those states.
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I beg to differ, I believe cities DO have reporting responsibilities under federal law (if one of our many lawyers can take a minute to explain). Besides, the Safe Communities initiative, under which the fingerprints of over 2 million illegals have been compared with criminal rolls, will in the end wind up with more deportations than 1070.

In less than 2 years because of these fingerprint checks, over 35K serious criminals have been identified and deported and over 200K less "serious" ciminals (you know, stealing your car, burglarizing your house, selling dope to your kid,"less serious" crimes) have similarly been deported.

And would you believe it, the same people who oppose 1070 also oppose this initiative.
 
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Red Cloud said:
Seriously?
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To a degree, yes. You had to wait in a long-ass line, and there was always the threat of quarantine if you were suspected of a disease.

But, by and large, the process was essentially: renounce citizenship and get in. The only things that stopped you were disease, criminal record or having a case of the crazies (and that's only if it could be proven while you were there). The Q&A portion was, I believe, 25-30 questions that you had to answer. Only 2% or so of applicants were denied.

Compared to what the system has been like since the 20's, yes Ellis Island was a picnic.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Ugh.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38452638/ns/politics?GT1=43001



I don't care if it's true or not. Just reading those words enrages me.

Make the immigration process more straightforward? Fine, whatever. It's not like it took much to get through Ellis Island.

But to just willy-nilly document illegals and willfully do nothing about them just baffles me. These people would be better off just skipping the rhetoric and being honest about their desires to eradicate our sovereign borders.
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I agree.

If you can work legally without becoming a citizen then you are, to a degree, protected under U.S. law, something citizens are guaranteed under the Constitution. So, if you can live in the U.S. and not be a citizen and gain employment, then...

1. Why work for workplace reform? It drives up costs and raises prices.

2. Why even have an INS? If they can work and get many of the privileges of citizenship, why become a citizen?
 
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As surely as night follows day, you can bet that any scheme which allows illegals permission to work here will be followed by suggestions that they be allowed to vote. Lefties have been working hard trolling for votes among felons and doing the same with illegals would be automatic. There have already been suggestions that illegals should get to vote in municipal elections "after all, they'd only be voting for mayors and city council, not members of congress." Mark my words on this one.
 
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