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Hockey East 2010-2011

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jcarter7669 said:
Yeah it couldn't be that his team couldn't give him any support...
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Its not like his team was bad. If his stats were historically off the charts and his team couldn't win (LeBron James argument), that's one thing. His team was senior laden.
 
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Slasher7 said:
Its not like his team was bad. If his stats were historically off the charts and his team couldn't win (LeBron James argument), that's one thing. His team was senior laden.
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His career stats are better then Muse...does that mean that its skewed because UML has had a better team then BC??
 
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jcarter7669 said:
You eliminated games ( post season at that ) where Muse got schooled. That's a real apples to apples comparison.

Hamilton is terrible? Really a mid 2 GAA and .900+ save % is terrible? John would you take Hamilton if he decided to go play at PC? If I remember right he also held a powerhouse BU team to 1 controversial goal in the HE finals. Yup freaking bum, why would Blaise even let him suit up?

I think looking at the number of shots they were able to stop is a pretty neutral indicator. Wins losses, or GAA depend heavily on the competition but save % is pretty equal.

This isn't a freaking hypothetical question? I think you are confused.

So you think Milan and Rollheiser were a better tandem then Hutton and Hamilton last season? Sorry but I would disagree with that.

I'm not sure you even understand the question, you better go back and read the thread...especially before you go calling other people idiots.
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you are out of your *** mind. when i compared you to an AIDS monkey, it was an insult to AIDS monkies.

a) i didnt eliminate postseason. YOU DID. the postseason stats are where Muse shines.. so why would i knock them out? i eliminated all OOC games - which included the HE playoffs for lowell as well - because the wide range of opponents made a true comparison impossible.

b) head to head is not an apples to apples comparison because they are playing different teams, retard.

c) hamilton is not better than beaudry. again you are incapable of separating a player from the team he is on.

d) you discredit milan/rollheiser based on last years stats but then you dig up a 2009 game to give props to hamilton? you are either stupid or hypocritical. i will let you pick.


i'm done with this. suffice to say, you have the intelligence of a 3 year old. any time i disagree with you i am happy because i have separated myself from the mental midgets.
 
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jcarter7669 said:
His career stats are better then Muse...does that mean that its skewed because UML has had a better team then BC??
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What is this based on? BC's had a much tough schedule over the years outside of the conference. They had some common opponents but when I look at UML's seasons I see a lot of Bentleys and other borderline D3 teams on their schedule. If you want to say playing Bentley as an OOC is the same as playing North Dakota or Denver, go ahead.
 
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jcarter7669 said:
If you want to compare apples to apples why not look head to head?

Ooops, I see why.

Hutton : 4 goals in 3 games, 2 wins 1 loss 1.33GAA
Muse : 7 goals in 2 games, 2 losses no wins 3.5 GAA
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how is hth apples to apples??

one goalie is facing bc, the other is facing uml:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
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sterlippo1 said:
jjmc85 said:
The best penalty kill?

yes..............and as a side, they gave up 11 less goals in conference play than the second best goals against team, yes, UML:eek: 61 vs 72 or 18% less...............thats actually a pretty big gap when you think about it........
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My follow up question (not just to you but to those who said BC had the best first line, second line, coach, etc.): Do you believe this only because they won the national title?

For example, if Vermont or UNH had won the national title, would you then think BC didn't have the best goaltending tandem, coach, penalty kill, etc?

If you answer "Yes, I only think BC had the best goaltending tandem because they won the national title. Take that away and they no longer have the best goaltending tandem." I think that's illogical. I don't think the national champion necessarily has to have the best everything. Think 2001 Patriots. All they had was the best special teams. They still won.

If you answer no, it proves the point I believe many are trying to make: just because you win the national title doesn't mean you indisputably have the best goaltending tandem in the conference.
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If you look at the official Hockey East site, Muse was the last Goaltender of the Week and Hutton was the last Goaltender of the Month. Can't we just say they both are very good. The only way you really could decide who is better is if they were on the same team together and that is not easy sometimes either as look at Miami last year. They had a Hobey candidate and yet went with the other one in the end.
 
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SteveF said:
you are out of your *** mind. when i compared you to an AIDS monkey, it was an insult to AIDS monkies.
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You are one really classy guy. You are a credit to the race.

SteveF said:
a) i didnt eliminate postseason. YOU DID. the postseason stats are where Muse shines.. so why would i knock them out? i eliminated all OOC games - which included the HE playoffs for lowell as well - because the wide range of opponents made a true comparison impossible.
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Wait let me get this straight, In my calculations of save% and GAA I included all the games played. You on the other hand "eliminated all OOC games - which included the HE playoffs for lowell as well" but you didn't eliminate the post season...I did???:confused: You have no business calling anyone a retard or questioning their logic.

SteveF said:
i'm done with this. suffice to say, you have the intelligence of a 3 year old. any time i disagree with you i am happy because i have separated myself from the mental midgets.
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Again, at least I realize that eliminating all OOC games including one against an in-conference oppenent in the post season is in fact eliminating post season games...

You haven't separated yourself from the mental midgets, you have created a new class of them.
 
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Slasher7 said:
What is this based on? BC's had a much tough schedule over the years outside of the conference. They had some common opponents but when I look at UML's seasons I see a lot of Bentleys and other borderline D3 teams on their schedule. If you want to say playing Bentley as an OOC is the same as playing North Dakota or Denver, go ahead.
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What is based on??

Well, when I say his career stats ... I would assume if I was you that it was based on his career stats.
 
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mookie1995 said:
how is hth apples to apples??

one goalie is facing bc, the other is facing uml:confused: :confused: :confused:
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I know right...makes it even worse because the goalie facing BC should have much worse stats....

But you are right its not apples to apple but I tried to compare their games against ME and apparently that wasn't apples to apples either.
 
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BC/HE said:
If you look at the official Hockey East site, Muse was the last Goaltender of the Week and Hutton was the last Goaltender of the Month. Can't we just say they both are very good. The only way you really could decide who is better is if they were on the same team together and that is not easy sometimes either as look at Miami last year. They had a Hobey candidate and yet went with the other one in the end.
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I'd be willing to say they were the two best goaltenders in the league without assigning best or second best to appease the BC fans if that's what it takes.
 
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jjmc85 said:
QUOTE=sterlippo1;4820171]

My follow up question (not just to you but to those who said BC had the best first line, second line, coach, etc.): Do you believe this only because they won the national title?

For example, if Vermont or UNH had won the national title, would you ......
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whoa! you lost me there


:p
 
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jjmc85 said:
My follow up question (not just to you but to those who said BC had the best first line, second line, coach, etc.): Do you believe this only because they won the national title? .
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no, we believe this because there really wasnt a first line better than gibbons-atkinson-whitney or a second line better than hayes-smith-kreider. that is why they won, it is not because they won, fool.
 
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SteveF said:
no, we believe this because there really wasnt a first line better than gibbons-atkinson-whitney or a second line better than hayes-smith-kreider. that is why they won, it is not because they won, fool.
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Wait , I thought they won because of Muse and Milner?
 
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