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Global War on Terror 9: Winter Is Here.

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mookie1995 said:
US gave $200k pp for the airliner the navy shot down.

173x200k max

Plus majority Iranian nationals anyhow
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As the case dragged on, a settlement was reached in 1996. The United States, which “expressed deep regret” for shooting down Iran Air flight 655, agreed to pay $61.8 million to the victims’ families, and Iran dropped its suit.
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$99.3 million today
 
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The truth is never enough for Trump, even when he kills a US enemy like Iran's Soleimani

Why can’t this administration just tell the truth about the U.S. strike on Iranian terror boss Qasem Soleimani?

The truth, after all, should be enough. Soleimani helped organize and plan attacks that killed thousands, and he helped to turn entire regions of the Middle East into a charnel house. He was an avowed enemy of the United States and its allies who was directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition troops.

Previous administrations did not kill him only because the risks of further conflict with Iran were too high. The Trump administration — whether wisely or foolishly — took its shot and killed him. This is a clear enough narrative that administration officials should be able to go out and tell it to Congress, the American people and the international community without shooting themselves in the foot over and over.
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But no. The truth is never enough for this administration. Every moment must be a heroic thriller, an action movie starring Dona***ld Trump and SEAL Team Six. It is not enough to be a responsible steward of the nation’s security, a role that requires patience and prudence, for which Trump is unprepared and has failed repeatedly.

Instead, President Trump must portray himself the way his base sees him, as a forceful avenger riding an American eagle into battle. He cannot bear to think of himself as Jimmy Carter, who agonized over risks and deliberated too long about the Iranian hostage crisis of 1979, nor can he stand to think of himself as Barack Obama, the much more popular president he clearly envies, who created the "terrible" and "defective" Iran nuclear deal.
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Now, inquisitive members of Congress, nosy reporters, disloyal Democrats and all the other people Trump thinks of as his enemies have asked obvious questions about U.S. policy. Rather than answer them, Trump has sent his national security officials out with a Hollywood script about an “imminent” attack that he says involved four U.S. Embassies but refuses to explain to anyone, not even to his trusted surrogates at Fox News.
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The story began to unravel as soon as it hit the street. Apparently, the threat was so severe that it was worth killing Soleimani and courting war with a country of 80 million people. It's unclear, however, whether it was severe enough to actually warn any U.S. Embassies that they were in peril. National security adviser Robert O'Brien dodged the question when it was asked. (Republican members of Congress might consider that such laxity was why they grilled then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for 11 hours about Benghazi, Libya, in 2015.)

Worse, Defense Secretary Mark Esper has said that he saw no such evidence. Making the rounds of the Sunday shows, Esper said only that the president believed the attacks were possible, and that therefore he believes the president. It is inconceivable such intelligence would have been kept from Esper, and his admission that he has not seen any such thing raises justifiable suspicions that this “exquisite” intelligence does not exist.With both al-Baghdadi and Soleimani, as with so many other moments with this president, Trump can’t seem to stick to one coherent story. And so we end up talking not about policy, but whether there is something deeply wrong with the commander in chief and whether he can be trusted with American national security.

The more ominous problem here is that the Trump team’s deceptiveness looks much more like “wag the dog” than the elimination of a clear and present danger. It might well be true that any day when Soleimani is taken out of action is a good day. But Trump — like Bill Clinton ordering an airstrike on Iraq the day after the Republican House accused him of "high crimes and misdemeanors" in 1998 — is arguing that military necessity forced him to act.
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52 targets:Trump threats to Iran culture sites were illegal, bad strategy and a break with tradition

By refusing to provide any details to anyone, and instead sending his briefers out to tell members of Congress, in essence, to shut up, the president looks like he is trying to cover up a strike whose purpose had more to do with the security of Donald Trump than the security of the United States.

In every presidential tenure, there are important moments that reflect the personality of the chief executive, especially in times of crisis. Trump is a man who cannot tell a simple story without dishonesty, even when the facts are on his side. This deficit of character is bad enough in a single leader, but when it spreads to an entire administration, it is dangerous to national security and destructive to trust in democracy.
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"imminent threat". Trump signed off on whacking Suleimani back in June.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like a GOP congressional district in NC. <a href="https://t.co/8PrOpAw98j">https://t.co/8PrOpAw98j</a></p>— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/svdate/status/1222222832836456449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the peace plan. <a href="https://t.co/o0Yy2S3gpA">pic.twitter.com/o0Yy2S3gpA</a></p>— hend amry (@LibyaLiberty) <a href="https://twitter.com/LibyaLiberty/status/1222217200305680385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like a GOP congressional district in NC. <a href="https://t.co/8PrOpAw98j">https://t.co/8PrOpAw98j</a></p>— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/svdate/status/1222222832836456449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Ok, I had it flipped the wrong way. I get it now.
 
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aparch said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the peace plan. <a href="https://t.co/o0Yy2S3gpA">pic.twitter.com/o0Yy2S3gpA</a></p>— hend amry (@LibyaLiberty) <a href="https://twitter.com/LibyaLiberty/status/1222217200305680385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Ha, good one.
 
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