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Global War on Terror 9: Winter Is Here.

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For SEA, I’ve kinda said it before but, it’s really time dependent on how bad it is. If you’re leaving during the morning or evening when there’s a ton of Alaska and Delta flights (especially the commuter flights to places like Idaho and Montana) leaving it can be bad. Holidays can be bad too with all the college kids going home and families going on vacation.
 
I almost forgot KC (MCI) is another bad one. every 5-15 gates have a separate security checkpoint. Which sounds great, but it's actually way worse. It's a massive bottleneck given the size of the areas. Plus the seating areas are way way undersized for the planes they fly in and out.

The good news is they're rebuilding all the terminals and my understanding is it's going to be closer to what Charlotte is.
 
Yes MCI was, until very recently, an example of a failed, late 60s/early 70s "Airport in the Round" concept that envisioned pax parking in a central deck near the entrance to their designated check-in counter and gate. As DGF knows, Berlin Tegel had that design, too. It all fell apart when the hijackings of the early 70s (Dan Cooper & his copycats) forced the introduction of the security theater we know and loathe today. It quickly became clear that it was more efficient & practical to have centralized security screening checkpoints. TWA, who had their mid-continent fortress hub in KC at the time and had practically designed it for their use, actually packed up and moved to St. Louis when Kansas City flatly refused to help pay to rebuild the airport, having already spent their share of taxpayer millions on the original design.

The design that everyone got hot and bothered over after "Airport in the Round" failed was what you still see today at TPA. The central arrivals/departures terminal with a monorail to each "pod"/concourse of gates.

EDIT: Pretty sure DFW had this issue with its original design too, but found a way to mitigate it and added the train later to connect everything together behind security.
 
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Yes MCI was, until very recently, an example of a failed, late 60s/early 70s "Airport in the Round" concept that envisioned pax parking in a central deck near the entrance to their designated check-in counter and gate. As DGF knows, Berlin Tegel had that design, too. It all fell apart when the hijackings of the early 70s (Dan Cooper & his copycats) forced the introduction of the security theater we know and loathe today. It quickly became clear that it was more efficient & practical to have centralized security screening checkpoints. TWA, who had their mid-continent fortress hub in KC at the time and had practically designed it for their use, actually packed up and moved to St. Louis when Kansas City flatly refused to help pay to rebuild the airport, having already spent their share of taxpayer millions on the original design.

The design that everyone got hot and bothered over after "Airport in the Round" failed was what you still see today at TPA. The central arrivals/departures terminal with a monorail to each "pod"/concourse of gates.

EDIT: Pretty sure DFW had this issue with its original design too, but found a way to mitigate it and added the train later to connect everything together behind security.
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Yes to DFW - the layout is extremely spread out with the intent that everyone could park within about a 5-minute walk to their gate - dozens and dozens of entry points, almost one per gate. The terminals opened in the late 60s/early 70s, just as mideast hijackings were becoming a thing, so they had to introduce security checkpoints that massively bottlenecked the whole arrangement.

Fun fact: the property owned by DFW airport is larger than the island of Manhattan.
 
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The main terminal in Dubai (I think since upgraded) was easily the ugliest I've ever encountered aesthetically.
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Moscow FTW:

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The only person here I can imagine ever having been through it is our globe trotter, mookie, but if anybody has I wonder if it delivers inside as well as out.
 
Berlin is literally what the world would have looked like if the Nazis had won the war:

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It's so ugly I mistook it for the Long Island Railroad terminal in Penn Station:

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Is that the new BER? If so, then getting it finally opened so people would stop joking about it was obviously higher on the priority list than the aesthetics. And I'll add that it affirms my hypothesis that the entire Brandenburg airport project was staffed & run by former SED party brass.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Yes MCI was, until very recently, an example of a failed, late 60s/early 70s "Airport in the Round" concept that envisioned pax parking in a central deck near the entrance to their designated check-in counter and gate. As DGF knows, Berlin Tegel had that design, too. It all fell apart when the hijackings of the early 70s (Dan Cooper & his copycats) forced the introduction of the security theater we know and loathe today. It quickly became clear that it was more efficient & practical to have centralized security screening checkpoints. TWA, who had their mid-continent fortress hub in KC at the time and had practically designed it for their use, actually packed up and moved to St. Louis when Kansas City flatly refused to help pay to rebuild the airport, having already spent their share of taxpayer millions on the original design.

The design that everyone got hot and bothered over after "Airport in the Round" failed was what you still see today at TPA. The central arrivals/departures terminal with a monorail to each "pod"/concourse of gates.

EDIT: Pretty sure DFW had this issue with its original design too, but found a way to mitigate it and added the train later to connect everything together behind security.
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Cool. Good background.
 
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