Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
So in this case at least, you prefer overt pandering to covert pandering.
So in this case at least, you prefer overt pandering to covert pandering.
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FlagDUDE08
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Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
Any form of amnesty is a disgrace to any immigrant who went through this country's incredibly difficult process of becoming an American citizen. What it says is that becoming a citizen is a waste of time and coming in illegally grants you just as many, if not more privileges. There is only ONE thing that should be done when an illegal immigrant is found: deportation. Send them back, no questions asked, and they are to come in the correct way.
Any form of amnesty is a disgrace to any immigrant who went through this country's incredibly difficult process of becoming an American citizen. What it says is that becoming a citizen is a waste of time and coming in illegally grants you just as many, if not more privileges. There is only ONE thing that should be done when an illegal immigrant is found: deportation. Send them back, no questions asked, and they are to come in the correct way.
Foxton
Banned
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
How much of a disgrace is it to those who went through the process to come here legally, to see all the citizens who had to do nothing but simply be born in the country?
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
We have no trouble with #1 and #2, but #3 should not get a free pass -- in fact they get prosecuted. But when folks try to steal citizenship, no problem???
adopted vs. born into vs. identity stealers.
We have no trouble with #1 and #2, but #3 should not get a free pass -- in fact they get prosecuted. But when folks try to steal citizenship, no problem???
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
We couldn't begin to afford tracking down, processing, jailing and ultimately deporting 12 million people. Never gonna happen.
We couldn't begin to afford tracking down, processing, jailing and ultimately deporting 12 million people. Never gonna happen.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
Then maybe we should start by pardoning and releasing the vigilantes and volunteer citizens that actually upheld this. As John F. Kennedy said in his inauguration speech: "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."
Then maybe we should start by pardoning and releasing the vigilantes and volunteer citizens that actually upheld this. As John F. Kennedy said in his inauguration speech: "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."
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I've got no use for vigilantes. The idea of an army of clowns, roaming the country, conducting extra-legal immigration actions should scare even the most dedicated anti-illegal immigration types. And Jack Kennedy was not referring to them in his speech anyway, as you well know. If every law enforcement officer in the country focused on identifying and rounding up illegals to the exclusion of everything else, we would still be unable to track 'em all down and deport 'em all. That's just the reality of the situation.
I've got no use for vigilantes. The idea of an army of clowns, roaming the country, conducting extra-legal immigration actions should scare even the most dedicated anti-illegal immigration types. And Jack Kennedy was not referring to them in his speech anyway, as you well know. If every law enforcement officer in the country focused on identifying and rounding up illegals to the exclusion of everything else, we would still be unable to track 'em all down and deport 'em all. That's just the reality of the situation.
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Foxton
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Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
So where did you get identity theft?
And then there is what is actually being talked about, young people who were brought here in one way or another and aren't criminals in any other way.
So where did you get identity theft?
FlagDUDE08
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Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
Obviously we won't get them all, but if we have citizens volunteering to do it instead of overpaying the pensions of a bunch of doughnut eaters, something might actually get done.
Obviously we won't get them all, but if we have citizens volunteering to do it instead of overpaying the pensions of a bunch of doughnut eaters, something might actually get done.
Foxton
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Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
Letters of marque for everyone!
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You can't be serious. "Volunteers?" Mercy. And what happens when these undertrained, overly enthusiastic "volunteers" start shooting at Messicans and missing? I'm not anxious to have my mother hit in the face by one of these clowns.
You can't be serious. "Volunteers?" Mercy. And what happens when these undertrained, overly enthusiastic "volunteers" start shooting at Messicans and missing? I'm not anxious to have my mother hit in the face by one of these clowns.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
Nice.
I have to agree with Foxton here. What a terrible idea. Citizen vigilantes rounding up the illegals? Not in this country. Not now. Not ever.
Nice.
I have to agree with Foxton here. What a terrible idea. Citizen vigilantes rounding up the illegals? Not in this country. Not now. Not ever.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
Where I come from, every citizen is responsible for the security of this country, not just a few elected/appointed bureaucrats.
Where I come from, every citizen is responsible for the security of this country, not just a few elected/appointed bureaucrats.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
Tell your mother not to go near the border.
Tell your mother not to go near the border.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
Yeah, picking tomatoes is really a threat to our national security. Confusing day laborers with the British circa 1776 is a terribly dangerous premise.
Yeah, picking tomatoes is really a threat to our national security. Confusing day laborers with the British circa 1776 is a terribly dangerous premise.
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
But if you want to stop the drug trade, it may not be a bad idea.....
Letters of Marque and Reprisal may only be granted by the Congress (Article 1, Section 8). Section 10 prohibits such activity by the States.
But if you want to stop the drug trade, it may not be a bad idea.....
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Priceless
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Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
What country are you from?
What country are you from?
So America is free from sea to shining sea, except near the borders.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
This one.
When you're an American and/or you come in the proper way and go through the proper channels, absolutely. If you come into this country illegally, you're invading the country. It doesn't matter how old you are.
This one.
When you're an American and/or you come in the proper way and go through the proper channels, absolutely. If you come into this country illegally, you're invading the country. It doesn't matter how old you are.
Re: Elections 2012:What unites us is greater than what divides us
We are a nation of laws. Which laws do we ignore (though El Presidente seems to make that a mantra) and which to we enforce? If it's an unenforceable law, strike it from the books. But until it is struck, it is the law and must be obeyed.
Do the sins of the father get visited upon the son? In this case, I would think yes, especially with the high unemployment.
We are a nation of laws. Which laws do we ignore (though El Presidente seems to make that a mantra) and which to we enforce? If it's an unenforceable law, strike it from the books. But until it is struck, it is the law and must be obeyed.
they're not citizens, not legal aliens, nor naturalized citizens, so they're not here legally, yet they want the bennies accruing to the "legal" citizens. Therefore they are stealing citizenship, or our national identity.
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