Was thinking along the same lines. Getting up to 55 ensures continued control even if the GOP picks up all the possibilities next election. An unreported but important consideration, although a lot also depends on who gets primaried next time around.
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Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial
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Was thinking along the same lines. Getting up to 55 ensures continued control even if the GOP picks up all the possibilities next election. An unreported but important consideration, although a lot also depends on who gets primaried next time around.
Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial
I thought I saw that Bernie Sanders (I-VT) was re-elected? if so, it would be 53-45-2 with both generally voting D.
I thought I saw that Bernie Sanders (I-VT) was re-elected? if so, it would be 53-45-2 with both generally voting D.
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Well, yeah, you are right. I guess I was using my own rules for that--I don't think of Sanders as an "I" because the Democrats don't ever run a candidate against him. The Democrats actually ran a candidate in Maine (she got 13 percent of the vote), so that was technically a 3-person race.
Well, yeah, you are right. I guess I was using my own rules for that--I don't think of Sanders as an "I" because the Democrats don't ever run a candidate against him. The Democrats actually ran a candidate in Maine (she got 13 percent of the vote), so that was technically a 3-person race.
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yeah, Bernie thinks the Democrats are too conservative for him, the "I" in my mind stands for "ironic."
yeah, Bernie thinks the Democrats are too conservative for him, the "I" in my mind stands for "ironic."
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Considering that Barack Obama is to the right of GW Bush on many many issues Bernie has a point.
yeah, Bernie thinks the Democrats are too conservative for him, the "I" in my mind stands for "ironic."
Considering that Barack Obama is to the right of GW Bush on many many issues Bernie has a point.
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How did Tierney win in MA6??
If you look @ the county by county map, there are more red counties than blue counties. However, the population of the blues >> reds. That decided it.
How did Tierney win in MA6??
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
DaveStPaul
New member
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You gotta knock this sh1t off, man. It's beneath you.
You gotta knock this sh1t off, man. It's beneath you.
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Romney was painted as a rich white guy (well he is) and did nothing to effectively counter the argument. Maybe he could have tried, "Yes, I am rich. You could be too. Let me help you get the opportunity." Rich white guys do not connect well in the urban cities - he could have tried.
His % is right, the reasoning is a bit off. I would venture that there were equal # that voted for/against because of his skin color.
Romney was painted as a rich white guy (well he is) and did nothing to effectively counter the argument. Maybe he could have tried, "Yes, I am rich. You could be too. Let me help you get the opportunity." Rich white guys do not connect well in the urban cities - he could have tried.
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He should have offered them all internships.
He should have offered them all internships.
bigblue_dl
Armed
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I get very frustrated with the direction the country is going. We continue to make it worse off for the people that try to better themselves by going to school, getting good grades, getting a good job and joining workforce, and better for those that are lazy or indifferent and want handouts. It makes me wonder what the point was to spending my time and money on getting an education and going to work everyday.
P
Priceless
Guest
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So you can live in a house rather than a rat-infested slum, so your kids can play on a lawn rather than an alley, so you can eat quality foods instead of going to a surplus store, so you can go on vacation to tropical locations (or ski trips etc) instead of reading about such locations in the public library, so you don't have to live paycheck to paycheck, so you can retire with some semblance of financial security.
G
Gurtholfin
Guest
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Because what we have to scratch and claw and work for is infinitely better than what a welfare lifestyle is. Lots of section 8 apartments here in Madison, and let me tell you it ain't a pretty existence.
Love how people paint welfare as some sort of glamorous thing. The ones around here at least, live like... well, poor people.
Because what we have to scratch and claw and work for is infinitely better than what a welfare lifestyle is. Lots of section 8 apartments here in Madison, and let me tell you it ain't a pretty existence.
Love how people paint welfare as some sort of glamorous thing. The ones around here at least, live like... well, poor people.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
While you could be "earning" $$$ doing nothing, you are much better off, getting to travel via work to Europe, buying sweet **** kicking boots, and generally living large. Your welfare income would not allow that.
Now the taxes you pay and will pay more along with rover as "rich" will be a small contribution to your safety fund (cause if tem nasty negros weren't getting handouts they'd be mugging you
). Think of it as low cost ADT Does not make it easier to pay and understand
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North Dakota Senate seat called for the Dems!
http://atr.rollcall.com/north-dakota-rick-berg-concedes-to-heidi-heitkamp/
That's a net GAIN of 2 seats which must go right up Itch McConnell's @zz. Guess obstructionism wasn't a good plank to run on after all. No fault of Republicans for losing Indiana or Missouri, but what gives? When Scottie Brown won a special election in Mass, all we heard about was Republican ascendancy and no state being safe from conservatives reach. Now Dems kick butt in North Dakota and Montana and there's nary a peep.
This is a game changer in that 60 votes is a bit more attainable if the so called GOP moderates form a block (Collins, Kirk, Ayotte, Murkowski, and maybe Linsdey Graham since he's going to get primaried anyway).
North Dakota Senate seat called for the Dems!
http://atr.rollcall.com/north-dakota-rick-berg-concedes-to-heidi-heitkamp/
That's a net GAIN of 2 seats which must go right up Itch McConnell's @zz. Guess obstructionism wasn't a good plank to run on after all. No fault of Republicans for losing Indiana or Missouri, but what gives? When Scottie Brown won a special election in Mass, all we heard about was Republican ascendancy and no state being safe from conservatives reach. Now Dems kick butt in North Dakota and Montana and there's nary a peep.
This is a game changer in that 60 votes is a bit more attainable if the so called GOP moderates form a block (Collins, Kirk, Ayotte, Murkowski, and maybe Linsdey Graham since he's going to get primaried anyway).
jmh
win or lose, we booze
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It isn't just that he was painted as a rich white guy. It's that, unlike previous rich white guys GW Bush and Clinton and GHW Bush and Reagan, he was successfully portrayed by the other candidate as a rich white guy who doesn't give a fig about people who aren't other rich white guys. Whether that's actually true I don't know, though I think it was probably an unrealistically harsh portrayal, but the portrayal was a significant factor and he didn't help his ability to discredit it any with the 47% thing.
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To be fair, this happened to GHW Bush in 1992 as well. If you recall the whole "supermarket scanner" thing where GHW Bush was portrayed (incorrectly) by the media as being amazed by a supermarket price scanner. Obviously Bush wouldn't have gone into a grocery store for any non-photo op reason at any point in the preceding 12+ years, but it was for some reason quite a political disaster to have brought that fact to the public's attention. It wasn't just that one incident, of course, but Bush and his VP were successfully painted with the whole "Upper Class Twit of the Year" thing in 1992.
Reagan and Clinton were immune from being portrayed as a "rich white guy" because they spent several decades at the beginning of their lives as non-rich white guys. GW Bush was immune because both of his opponents came across as both richer and whiter than he.
To be fair, this happened to GHW Bush in 1992 as well. If you recall the whole "supermarket scanner" thing where GHW Bush was portrayed (incorrectly) by the media as being amazed by a supermarket price scanner. Obviously Bush wouldn't have gone into a grocery store for any non-photo op reason at any point in the preceding 12+ years, but it was for some reason quite a political disaster to have brought that fact to the public's attention. It wasn't just that one incident, of course, but Bush and his VP were successfully painted with the whole "Upper Class Twit of the Year" thing in 1992.
Reagan and Clinton were immune from being portrayed as a "rich white guy" because they spent several decades at the beginning of their lives as non-rich white guys. GW Bush was immune because both of his opponents came across as both richer and whiter than he.
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Ummm...I think several of you are missing a key point, which is Mittens didn't win because his proposals for the country were George W Bush's agenda on steroids. An agenda, whether you agree with it or not, is vastly unpopular with voters. That in a nutshell explains his 330+ electoral college vote ***** kicking. His wealth was irrelevant, although in the future the GOP may want to lay off of any more first born sons of millionaires, lest you end up with Donald Trump as your next nominee!
Ummm...I think several of you are missing a key point, which is Mittens didn't win because his proposals for the country were George W Bush's agenda on steroids. An agenda, whether you agree with it or not, is vastly unpopular with voters. That in a nutshell explains his 330+ electoral college vote ***** kicking. His wealth was irrelevant, although in the future the GOP may want to lay off of any more first born sons of millionaires, lest you end up with Donald Trump as your next nominee!
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Or because his brother rigged the election in 2000 and a relative was conveniently placed in charge of calling the winners.
Whatever, it's a great day to be smug and liberal!
Or because his brother rigged the election in 2000 and a relative was conveniently placed in charge of calling the winners.
Whatever, it's a great day to be smug and liberal!
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Correct. Anyone who thinks it was the Bain attacks or the "rich white guy" syndrome is fooling themselves. He didn't have a single position that anyone could understand.
Correct. Anyone who thinks it was the Bain attacks or the "rich white guy" syndrome is fooling themselves. He didn't have a single position that anyone could understand.