Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

[5mn_Major]

Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

SOFTEN??!?

It's like they ignored their own convention!

Nikki Haley spoke of how her immigrant parents came to the US to pursue the American dream. Susannah Martinez spoke about how her immigrant parents came to the US to pursue the American dream. Paul Ryan spoke about how his immigrant great-grandfather came to the US to pursue the American dream. Wasn't it in 2004 how Arnold Schwarzeneggar spoke at the R convention about how he immigrated to the US to pursue the American dream?

Marco Rubio even sponsored the DREAM Act, which was on its way toward bi-partisan adoption before Obama co-opted it with an executive order that said pretty much the same thing.

The Republicans already have the emotional connections and the stories, they merely need a cohesive sensible policy to go with it.

Some in the GOP including Ryan seems to have a decent approach to immigration (better than many). Having said that, I'm not so sure about the GOP's 'emotional' connection with the plight of immigrants. It looks far more like its a growth strategy play due to other signs of apathy such as Romney's statements saying he was 'not concerned about the very poor' or the 47% comment .

The problem remains that much of the GOP is beholden to the extreme base... and rogue states and politicians continue to set the tone. Targeting only Hispanic studies programs to shut down and SB1070 and its copycats around the nation have far more impact than a Paul Ryan story about his great grandfather. Until the national GOP picks a pew between a positive Hispanic policy and support for legislation perceived as anti Hispanic such as that coming out of Arizona...its never going to go anywhere with minorities.

 

[Slap Shot]

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You mean they could've passed something with bi-partisan support, then withdrew it when they realized it would have bi-partisan support? The hell you say.

Well come on, they couldn't have HIM getting re-elected and all. **** the country to hell before that will happen again.

 

[mookie1995]

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SOFTEN??!?

It's like they ignored their own convention!

Nikki Haley spoke of how her immigrant parents came to the US to pursue the American dream. Susannah Martinez spoke about how her immigrant parents came to the US to pursue the American dream. Paul Ryan spoke about how his immigrant great-grandfather came to the US to pursue the American dream. Wasn't it in 2004 how Arnold Schwarzeneggar spoke at the R convention about how he immigrated to the US to pursue the American dream?

Marco Rubio even sponsored the DREAM Act, which was on its way toward bi-partisan adoption before Obama co-opted it with an executive order that said pretty much the same thing.

The Republicans already have the emotional connections and the stories, they merely need a cohesive sensible policy to go with it.

some gop dude was on npr the other day saying that their message should resonate with immigrants. they are the people creating new small businesses.

that message isn't one that is getting conveyed to these folks.

and the 'they are taking our jobs' is crap. i've worked in office bldgs for a long time now and i only see immigrant types cleaning my bathroom. i don't recall every seeing whitey change the paper rolls.

 

[joecct]

Re: Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

Food for thought by Robert Sameulson, WaPo OpEd piece: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...92868a-2ab0-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_story.html

 

[Rover]

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Of course anything can happen, but I'm a bit skeptical that the GOP can turn on a dime on immigration. People like Jan Brewer are heroes to conservatives. Are they suddenly going to tell her to F off? Righties should have followed GWB's lead years ago and put this issue to bed back then as a deal was in place, only to have the GOP Senate block it, as they did again in 2009. I can't imagine the recriminations in the primaries if ANY GOP officeholder supports the DREAM act.

Like the budget deal, Dems are in the driver's seat. They either get an immigration bill on their terms, or GOP continues to lose Hispanic vote by 3 or 4 to 1. Either works for me.

 

[joecct]

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Interesting numbers courtesy of Michael Barone:

Another way to look at it: 123 of 201 House Democrats will be from the Northeast, the West Coast, Hawaii and Illinois. Only 23 are from the Midwest outside Illinois, and only 42 are from the South.

 

[Almington]

Interesting numbers courtesy of Michael Barone:

In other words, democrats didn't win congressional seats in 2012 in states where republicans controlled redistricting in 2010.

 

[joecct]

In other words, democrats didn't win congressional seats in 2012 in states where republicans controlled redistricting in 2010.

The opposite is also true. See Maryland as a case in point.