Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

[geezer]

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fyp

Seriously, how can people spout these things when it can be easily argued that their own people are doing exactly the same things?

Ew. Don't be mean.
(fwiw, I'm an Obama supporter. Romney's pledge to raise military spending while cutting taxes never made any sense at all to me)
However, I hate the way the Democratic Party runs national politics. "vote for revenge", etc.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Republicans can cling to guns and religion, Democrats can cling to science and compassion....we'll see which one works out better.

That's how I see it.

I just can't identify with those (right-wing) thought processes.

 

[MaizeRage]

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Oh, you're right, they vote for their welfare and food stamps instead, that is much better.

And why wouldn't they want to be in the same political party as you. You seem delightful.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Truth? Based on what, beyond your own prejudices and bigotry? Do you honestly believe that 90% of black voters are on welfare or food stamps, and that's the only possible reason they'd vote Democrat?

Also, love the moving target. 15 minutes ago, they all voted for Barack because he's black. Facts don't back that up, so now it's because they're all suckling the government teat. What's next?

Its a combination of both, in my opinion. I don't see how anyone can say that people didn't vote for the candidate that they thought would "give them the most free stuff" as it has been quoted previously.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Ew. Don't be mean.
(fwiw, I'm an Obama supporter. Romney's pledge to raise military spending while cutting taxes never made any sense at all to me)
However, I hate the way the Democratic Party runs national politics. "vote for revenge", etc.

I'm just saying that there's plenty to go around. It's amazing how quickly people forget what the Bush machine did to Kerry and he just kept bending over every available couch saying, "thank you, may I have another." I just wanted him to stand up and actually fight back.

What the right has done to Obama over the past 4 years with the socialist label, the muslim whisperings, the birther crap, the angry black man, etc, etc, etc...

Unfortunately, politics is a nasty, dirty business. I'm just glad the Dems have finally, FINALLY, stepped up and taken off the gloves instead of just taking it.

 

[DisplacedCornellian]

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I don't see how anyone can say that people didn't vote for the candidate that they thought would "give them the most free stuff" as it has been quoted previously.

There probably were a few idiots who did vote based on that. But to generalize that view to an entire race is just...wrong.

 

[FreshFish]

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It's the national party that's diseased.

Not only; in CT the state Democrat party is in really bad shape precisely because they are so dominant at the polls. They cannot govern yet keep getting re-elected anyway. In the past 20 years, private sector employment has fallen, taxes keep getting raised, yet the promised revenue never materializes. Retirees from state government move out of state as fast as they can sell their houses; so that even the lavish pension money doled out is spent elsewhere so we don't even get any sales tax or income tax revenue to offset it.

Thank the Deity we had Jodi Rell as Governor for awhile, at least she kept them at bay. The Republican candidate for Governor in 2010 actually received more votes than the Democrat; however, the Democrat was also on the Working Families Pary line and picked up several thousand votes there, so that the Democrat wound up in office anyway, in a really sleazy way (they "ran out" of ballots in a heavily Democrat city; then "brought in" extra ballots; meanwhile the polls were kept open hours after they were supposed to have been closed, but rather than cut off the lines at whomever was there at closing time, they kept letting in more people afterward. Naturally the Democrat Secretary of State, the Democrat Attorney General, et al, found nothing untoward in this ) Since 2010 it's been back to the downhill slide. It's gotten so bad that there aren't any Republican career politicians left any more. Every election you have some well-intentioned amateur running a shoestring campaign, in a heavily-gerrymandered district wherever you go. The Republicans frequently get a plurality of votes in many localities yet win no offices because the overwhelmingly disproportionate votes from our few cities outweigh them all (last time around, out of something like 200 towns, 196 voted Republican, yet the 4 cities had enough of a plurality to offset the other 196).

I'm waiting for the day we can retire, sell our house, and leave too. It's a beautiful place to live visually, but politically it's been a wasteland for decades except for the brief interregnum of Republican governorships.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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And why wouldn't they want to be in the same political party as you. You seem delightful.

And I'm sure bigblue could find thousands of exampled of delightful people on the left, starting with Jeremiah Wright.

 

[geezer]

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It's a beautiful place to live visually, but politically it's been a wasteland for decades except for the brief interregnum of Republican governorships.

You said "interregnum".

 

[brookyone]

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Disappointing Michele "Queen of Whack-a-Doodle Bachmann returns to DC...very disappointing. Also disturbing is the election of Whack-a-Doodle Jr. Karin Housley to the Minnesota State Senate. Bad for America, bad for Minnesota.

 

[MountieBoyOz]

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To add a little levity to the thread, Colorado and Washington passed pot propositions. In a related note, the X Games have been moved to Denver and Seattle.

 

[FreshFish]

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You said "interregnum".

"the period of time between the reign of one monarch and the next"
- Wikipedia

 

[Rover]

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Tester officially re-elected in Montana!

http://atr.rollcall.com/montana-jon-tester-hangs-on-democrats-expand-majority/

Chalk up another one in the Dems column. Only waiting for the North Dakota race now.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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There probably were a few idiots who did vote based on that. But to generalize that view to an entire race is just...wrong.

Hope you have a good view of country going down in flames from your moral high ground.

for what its worth "**** WHITE PEOPLE" was trending on twitter last night. They sound like solid, stand-up citizens themselves.

 

[Rover]

Hope you have a good view of country going down in flames from your moral high ground.

for what its worth "**** WHITE PEOPLE" was trending on twitter last night. They sound like solid, stand-up citizens themselves.

I suggest you relocate to North Korea. I hear strong conservative values enforced by an iron fisted righty leader are in vogue over there. Plus, military spending is through the roof!

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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I suggest you relocate to North Korea. I hear strong conservative values enforced by an iron fisted righty leader are in vogue over there. Plus, military spending is through the roof!

It's so nice that you think conservatives are dictators...that's cute.

 

[Rover]

It's so nice that you think conservatives are dictators...that's cute.

Just trying to help out...

 

[Alton]

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The Republicans have won 232 House races, plus there will be 1 Louisiana runoff between 2 Republicans for 233 total.
The Democrats have won 191 House races.

As of right now, 11 House races are undecided, and Democrats lead in 9 of the 11. If that number holds true, the House will have 235 Republicans and 200 Democrats. The current split is 242-193 for the Republicans. A 7-seat swing, especially after a reapportionment, isn't really much of a shift to speak of. Given the typical swing toward the non-incumbent's party in the 6th year of a presidency, Republicans are probably hoping for a minimum of 250 seats after the 2014 elections.

The Senate will likely be 54-45-1 (with the 1, Maine's Angus King, mostly voting with the Democrats).

 

[Rover]

The Republicans have won 232 House races, plus there will be 1 Louisiana runoff between 2 Republicans for 233 total.
The Democrats have won 191 House races.

As of right now, 11 House races are undecided, and Democrats lead in 9 of the 11. If that number holds true, the House will have 235 Republicans and 200 Democrats. The current split is 242-193 for the Republicans. A 7-seat swing, especially after a reapportionment, isn't really much of a shift to speak of. Given the typical swing toward the non-incumbent's party in the 6th year of a presidency, Republicans are probably hoping for a minimum of 250 seats after the 2014 elections.

The Senate will likely be 54-45-1 (with the 1, Maine's Angus King, mostly voting with the Democrats).

I would say the Dems gaining two seats is a big deal however. They were defending 23 to the GOP's 10. Furthermore, even the most partisan hacks out there didn't have the Dems gaining anything. Hell, I even had them losing Montana. That is a kick in the @ ss for the right.

 

[Alton]

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I would say the Dems gaining two seats is a big deal however. They were defending 23 to the GOP's 10. Furthermore, even the most partisan hacks out there didn't have the Dems gaining anything. Hell, I even had them losing Montana. That is a kick in the @ ss for the right.

Agreed on that point. Nate Silver missed the Wyoming race, too, and he is not looking good on the North Dakota prediction. 55-45 is a big imbalance to overcome for control of the chamber. Even if Republicans can win the Senate race in every "Red State" in 2014, it only gets them to 50-50. It would take a very good day for Republicans on November 4, 2014, to give them the Senate for Obama's last 2 years.