Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

[TimP]

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Correct. Anyone who thinks it was the Bain attacks or the "rich white guy" syndrome is fooling themselves. He didn't have a single position that anyone could understand.

...except for wanting to repeal Roe v. Wade, making homosexuality a federal crime, tax increases for the poor and middle class, tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires, dismantling all the green-energy initiatives...

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Correct. Anyone who thinks it was the Bain attacks or the "rich white guy" syndrome is fooling themselves. He didn't have a single position that anyone could understand.

and Obama didnt runon anything of substance. Not to mention, if "rich white guy" wasn't an issue, how does "#### white people" trend on twitter?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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and Obama didnt runon anything of substance. Not to mention, if "rich white guy" wasn't an issue, how does "#### white people" trend on twitter?

He had plenty of substance. You guys need to get off the Grover train and come up with something else besides tax cuts. We're all savvy to your game now and we're not falling for it. GW Bush will be the last guy to pull that wool over anyone's eyes.

 

[MaizeRage]

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Not to mention, if "rich white guy" wasn't an issue, how does "#### white people" trend on twitter?

Most of the "**** white people" mentions I'm finding is in response to the abhorrent racism we saw last night.

 

[MountieBoyOz]

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Green Party candidate in NY 21 race gets arrested to top off this race.

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20121107/NEWS09/711079757

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Most of the "**** white people" mentions I'm finding is in response to the abhorrent racism we saw last night.

Ha, you people funny. ****ing pathetic, but funny.

 

[Slap Shot]

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There's no doubt that the message of rage, hatred, and jealousy the national Democratic Party...

That voters such as yourself think that road goes only one way is why Romney lost. Well one reason anyway.

 

[Slap Shot]

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There probably were a few idiots who did vote based on that. But to generalize that view to an entire race is just...wrong.

It's frightening really. People of his ilk actually believe Obama wants to make the US a communist police state.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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It's frightening really. People of his ilk actually believe Obama wants to make the US a communist police state.

No, he just believes that Obama wants to make as many people as possible dependent on something from the government, to keep them voting for the party that gave them whatever that dependent something is...

 

[XYZ]

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2. Went into Full Derp mode. The Conservatives Tea Partiers Republicans Whatever's lost 2 Senate seats (1 in Indiana, and 1 in Missouri) because you nominated two lunatics.

Tinkled a few away in 2010 for the same reason. Nevada in particular.

 

[burd]

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If you campaign for that office and you choose to make it a predominantly one-issue race, you might be prepared to talk policy on that issue. A lot of people will ask, and some might care.

 

[Jimjamesak]

This is a game changer in that 60 votes is a bit more attainable if the so called GOP moderates form a block (Collins, Kirk, Ayotte, Murkowski, and maybe Linsdey Graham since he's going to get primaried anyway).

It may or may not be a sound strategy for Murkowski to do it considering she did get primaried last time. She is popular among the general population here though.

Granted Alaska politics is very wacky compared to everybody else.

 

[manurespreader]

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one or two points.
Romney said he would lower taxes on business, but keep tax revenue neutral. In other words regular taxpayers would pay more for business to have a break. This theoretically would create more jobs. He contended 12 million. So lets take him at his word, but 12 million average jobs comes no where near balancing the budget. Not even close.(And of course all of us would pay higher tax rates.)

So to balance the budget he'd have to cut medicare by 50-60 %, military by,.... oh wait no cuts, everything else by more than 50%... bottom line... it would end up causing a serious recession. So the numbers didn't add up.

Not to mention the social issues that he wanted women and latino's to ignore!. The republican party has to ditch the social issues, be more open to a wider part of the electorate, And quit with voodoo economics.

Now what really needs to happen. Read Simpson- Bowles. All areas of the federal budget need to be cut, including the military. ( right now we spend more on military than the next 15 in line combined), tax code needs a complete revamp, all of us will pay more, And some good programs will have to be ditched entirely. like PBS.
Democrats recognize this believe me, and so does Boehner.

 

[geezer]

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That voters such as yourself think that road goes only one way is why Romney lost. Well one reason anyway.

Pay attention or shut up about what I think. Moron. I've been more critical of the Republican party than the Democrat (I think they've wasted better opportunities to lead) and of Romney than the prez. It doesn't mean the parties are not essentially equally corrupt and deserving of criticism. All of which I've made perfectly clear over the last months. It's stupid to shoot off your mouth about what other people's opinions are, who you know absolutely nothing about and are unwilling to listen to find out.

Sorry if that's harsh. I'm so sick of this idea that you're not allowed to criticize any member or aspect of a party if you vote for someone in that party. It's idiotic. How would we ever get anything done? Look at abortion for example - no Christian could ever vote for any democrat because of the national party platform!

 

[Bob Gray]

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That voters such as yourself think that road goes only one way is why Romney lost. Well one reason anyway.

You only see it going one way, as displayed by your postings around here. You just see it going the other way.

 

[BassAle]

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Well, yeah, you are right. I guess I was using my own rules for that--I don't think of Sanders as an "I" because the Democrats don't ever run a candidate against him. The Democrats actually ran a candidate in Maine (she got 13 percent of the vote), so that was technically a 3-person race.

The National Democratic Committee did not endorse the (D) running for senate in Maine, and did not spend any money supporting her. They did spend money attacking the Republican candidate after the Rs started propping up the D candidate to take votes from King and ran attack adds against King.

 

[Rover]

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I would have liked a better showing in the House out of the Dems, but you have only so many resources to spread around and clealry the emphasis was rightly on the White House and Senate. Both of which went pretty well. Looks like they picked off some low hanging fruit (Allen West, etc) but need to turn that vaunted ground game on next election to get the 17 or so seats they'll need to send The Boner packing.

 

[FreshFish]

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I would have liked a better showing in the House out of the Dems, but you have only so many resources to spread around and clealry the emphasis was rightly on the White House and Senate. Both of which went pretty well. Looks like they picked off some low hanging fruit (Allen West, etc) but need to turn that vaunted ground game on next election to get the 17 or so seats they'll need to send The Boner packing.

I guess you haven't looked at state maps very carefully. Even in the states carried by <strike>[redacted]</strike> Obama, you see small dots of blue inside a sea of red. The concentrated populations in urban centers are enough for him to carry the state, while at the same time the more widespread suburban and exurban districts continue to return strong Republican majorities to the House.

I can just envision you in 15 years when you own some real property and have children; I have no doubt whatsoever you will be singing a very different tune than you do now when you have nothing tangible at risk of confiscation and you care about no one but yourself. Wait until someone comes along demanding you give them money you can't afford and depriving your kids of a better future. Believe me, I will take no satisfaction in that whatsoever.

 

[FreshFish]

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Pay attention [!] the parties are essentially equally corrupt and deserving of criticism. All of which I've made perfectly clear over the last months.

Yes. Very well put. It's corporate welfare for one set of cronies or corporate welfare for a different set of cronies, either way it's corporate welfare for someone.

It's government handouts for one group of sycophants or tax breaks for a different group of sychophants; either way sycophants are being rewarded at the expense of the common good.

Those of us who merely want to live our lives in peace, work hard, save for the future, raise our children to become responsible, competent, self-supporting adults, have no one to represent us from either major party.

 

[Rover]

I guess you haven't looked at state maps very carefully. Even in the states carried by <strike>[redacted]</strike> Obama, you see small dots of blue inside a sea of red. The concentrated populations in urban centers are enough for him to carry the state, while at the same time the more widespread suburban and exurban districts continue to return strong Republican majorities to the House.

I can just envision you in 15 years when you own some real property and have children; I have no doubt whatsoever you will be singing a very different tune than you do now when you have nothing tangible at risk of confiscation and you care about no one but yourself. Wait until someone comes along demanding you give them money you can't afford and depriving your kids of a better future. Believe me, I will take no satisfaction in that whatsoever.

I think you're miscalculating my age, income, and family situation there Fishy. There is something fundamental which it appears that you just don't get. Few, if any, people actually believe that continued upper income tax cuts does anything for the economy. That is a 30 year old, failed economic theory that I would kindly suggest you let go of. The people you speak of, under 50 with families, are Obama supporters. Its the older , whiny, late 50's to early 70's generation who can't seem to come to grips with the fact that they can no longer steal everything that's not nailed down as they aren't the driving force electorally that they once were.