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Dump Term 2, 1.01: Sleep Now in the Fire

Handyman said:
Who cares what they think...
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You can claim you don't, but when they're half the f***** country... somebody needs to either smarten these morons up or figure out a way to deal with them, because they're not going anywhere. These are the people that voted them in and they're not leaving, they're not dying out. We can't just ignore them. It doesn't work. You can stick your head in the sand for 4 years and think that things are gonna get better. They're not.
They won and we're all paying the price for it. And ignoring it or saying, who cares what they think isn't going to help or fix anything. It's just giving up.
 
First Time said:
You can claim you don't, but when they're half the ****** country... somebody needs to either smarten these morons up or figure out a way to deal with them, because they're not going anywhere. These are the people that voted them in and they're not leaving, they're not dying out. We can't just ignore them. It doesn't work. You can stick your head in the sand for 4 years and think that things are gonna get better. They're not.
They won and we're all paying the price for it. And ignoring it or saying, who cares what they think isn't going to help or fix anything. It's just giving up.
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No, they need to learn the lesson good and hard. The only way anything will change is if it hurts. Sucks that most of us will suffer along with it but it is what it is.
 
Jimjamesak said:
No, they need to learn the lesson good and hard. The only way anything will change is if it hurts. Sucks that most of us will suffer along with it but it is what it is.
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They're not going to care...and they will still blame the left. So i'd rather it not hurt me and just accept that I have to f****** deal with it. I'll fight them and any of you if need be. You guys have become an absolute echo chamber, much like you blame the right for being because you block anybody you don't agree with. You choose not to listen or hear opinions from anybody you don't agree with and you decide that just blocking them on here makes them go away, and you can do the same thing with MAGA, and you can't. It doesn't work that way. It hasn't worked that way for about 40 years, ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.
doesn't matter if you're tired, doesn't matter if you don't want to hear it. All that matters is, if you actually want to try and save this country, you need to actually fight for it.
 
What are you going to be able to do to ensure that what they are doing won't hurt you?

They voted for this. It's going to hurt. And as you say, they will still blame Democrats for it hurting.

So, what're you gonna do about it? Keep coddling them? Keep trying to change their minds?

Their minds are made up. Dems are evil, and what Dems propose to do is stupid and evil, so we aren't going to listen to anything Dems say.

MAGA cannot fail, it can only be failed. If what they try this time doesn't work to make things better, they'll just double down on something worse. Like, maybe things will be better once there aren't any more Dems.
 
rufus said:
What are you going to be able to do to ensure that what they are doing won't hurt you?

They voted for this. It's going to hurt. And as you say, they will still blame Democrats for it hurting.

So, what're you gonna do about it? Keep coddling them? Keep trying to change their minds?

Their minds are made up. Dems are evil, and what Dems propose to do is stupid and evil, so we aren't going to listen to anything Dems say.

MAGA cannot fail, it can only be failed. If what they try this time doesn't work to make things better, they'll just double down on something worse. Like, maybe things will be better once there aren't any more Dems.
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We just bought a bigger upright freezer and plan on stocking it good and well. Keeping our smaller chest as backup. Fridges are going to go up in price and food is going to be a fucking shit show.

When food inflation hits, it's going to get bad quickly. There are already reports of Californian farmer co-ops saying 75% of workers didn't show up. California.

If you don't think food shortages are going to be a thing, I wish you the best of luck.

ETA: this was me screaming into the void. Not at Rufus. Sorry if it came off that way Rufus.
 
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rufus said:
What are you going to be able to do to ensure that what they are doing won't hurt you?

They voted for this. It's going to hurt. And as you say, they will still blame Democrats for it hurting.

So, what're you gonna do about it? Keep coddling them? Keep trying to change their minds?

Their minds are made up. Dems are evil, and what Dems propose to do is stupid and evil, so we aren't going to listen to anything Dems say.

MAGA cannot fail, it can only be failed. If what they try this time doesn't work to make things better, they'll just double down on something worse. Like, maybe things will be better once there aren't any more Dems.
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I do keep trying to push correct information as best I can. And I try to do it on an individual level, because it's the only way it's gonna work. Groups of people doesn't matter what they believe, because they're in a group are not going to be swayed, but you can get them individually. And yeah, I may have to accept higher prices right now.And i'm really p***** that I may have to accept the fact that I may lose my health insurance because of this a******, but that does not and will not mean that I stop fighting against him. Because that's the only way they win is when we quit and I see a lot of quit around here and I see a lot of people who'd rather just sit in an echo chamber and go well doesn't affect me....or I'll accept if it hurts me because it.might hurt them. To me that's giving up... And that's the only way they win is if we give up, it doesn't matter if what I do is big or small, or actually makes a f****** difference. All that matters is that I fight and I do something. And if that means that, yeah, I have to care about what they think and try to challenge them on an individual level, then I'll do it.If that means that I have to wade through their c*** day after day after day, then fine.I'll do it. Because it's the way to fight this whole thing of who cares what they think well when they're half the country. What do you want us to do?? Ignoring them doesn't work pretending they don't exist, doesn't work?Even fighting them may not work, but it's at least doing something. It's real easy to see now how Hitler came to power in the 30s, because it's exactly what's happening here. And it's exactly because people are going eh, and letting it. No, not anymore.I'll die before that happens.
 
Nope. I'm not giving up. Saying they get what they voted for isn't giving up. That's reality.

But I've had enough of banging my head against Trumpers. Did that his first term, didn't matter. They don't want to hear. They're convinced that they're right, and nothing you can show them will change their minds.

I'm done trying. Done arguing with them. Done pointing out the stupid shit he says and does. How what he says isn't what he does. How what he says makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Done with it. Trump is perfect, he is always right, and it ain't worth my time to disagree.

Got better things to do with my life. Hopefully it'll still be here four years from now. I got me to look out for.
 
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