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Dump Term 2, 1.01: Sleep Now in the Fire


Even the French Right hates Trump and Musk.

(he is Center-Right if I read correctly)

Even Le Pen is denouncing Trump...

Of course I do.

Oh wait, need to read things better.
 
The people need to see someone who is willing to stand up and fight for them. Even if it's mostly bullshit. Why do you think MAGA has such a devoted cult?

Performative art is half the battle. They see you willing to stand, and they'll listen to what you say. You just sit there and mumble, "well, maybe we can do this" that doesn't inspire anyone.

People are getting screwed. They need to see someone at least step up and try to stop them from being screwed. At least they fight, even if they end up losing. Doing nothing, you lose anyway, and you don't get people on your side. If Donald Trump is the second coming of Hitler, as you campaigned on, then fucking act like it. Don't go all Neville Chamberlain on the bit.

And why's Warner smiling? That phony Kloubachar perma-smile.
Bingo. We live in a low information society now so actions speak louder than words. Think of it like a coach...throwing trashcans and yelling like a moron in reality doesn't do all that much, but how many times have wee seen a team come out right after that and play better? That is where we are with most voters. They don't want a 5 minute powerpoint presentation about how tariffs work, they want to see that someone who has some power is willing to look the Emperor in the face and say he has no clothes. They want to see the Dems go down swinging.
 

Soon Alina Habba will be the only lawyer left who will do Trump's bidding...
 

Soon Alina Habba will be the only lawyer left who will do Trump's bidding...
Habba Habba ding ding, baby you got everything…
 
Overheard (kinda) on CNBC today that Musk sat with a mix of Congressmen (majority / all? Republican) for two hours and was politely told that all his actions could be seen as illegal and they, Congress, hold the final say on the firings/reallocation. He will need to present to them his entire list of changes for them to consider.
 
Sorry but you are wrong.
I love it when you speak in absolutes while completely misunderstanding someone's point. ;)

I didn't say the Dems don't need to take action, but I want to see a freaking hell of a lot more than walking out of just the latest occurrence of Orange Droolius mouth vomiting. They have screwed the pooch with sending a larger message up until this point and walking out would have looked amateurish and clownish. A bigger statement first of all would have been to not show up in the first place. Had they been more dignified, left the signs at home, and in unison quietly left maybe that would have worked, but I have my doubts the party could even pull that off right now.

Secondly they need find a bona fide mouth-piece and face of the party (or two or three), and stop pissing on each other for scraps. The people that have been lost don't have any clue what the party stands for. Finally where I will hard disagree with you is claiming the far-left has their shit together.

Disagree all you want.
 
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You don't get it...you have to walk before you can run. These clowns can't even talk to constituents let alone lead. The people don't trust them. They need to give people something more than just a mouthpiece. There needs to be action.

No one is saying that walking out will solve anything, it's just the first step. Something to show they are taking this seriously. I agree not showing up would have been good but not better. That looks bitter. Show up, walk out and annoy the piss out of everyone. Make a scene, ruin the moment. Take the bad press that will come the people will respect you more even if the polls say otherwise. That's a stepping stone for the fight in 2 weeks which is really do or die for the Dems.

Until the Dems show they have a spine no one is going to listen. They need to wake people up.
 
I'll agree to disagree without claiming "you're wrong" or "you don't get it".

That the Dems have the same arrogant/condescending attitude as yours is why they are failing.
 
Overheard (kinda) on CNBC today that Musk sat with a mix of Congressmen (majority / all? Republican) for two hours and was politely told that all his actions could be seen as illegal and they, Congress, hold the final say on the firings/reallocation. He will need to present to them his entire list of changes for them to consider.
I don't buy it, and even if I do they won't do anything if he circumvents them because they fear him primarying them.
 

Even the French Right hates Trump and Musk.

(he is Center-Right if I read correctly)

Even Le Pen is denouncing Trump...
 

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The irony is, as most Americans believe this myth that gubmint workers are lazy and inessential parasites, this conflagration will inevitably restore people's respect for and protection of government. You don't know what you got til it's gone. The pain and damage this unleashes won't penetrate conservative skulls -- those people are long gone from reality -- but they will provide an excellent reality check for liberals who think "the only dignified work is the sweat of your brow, derpa-derp."

This is like Stalin purging his generals. I'm sure that seemed like a good idea right up until Barbarossa made Russians, um, reconsider.
 
The irony is, as most Americans believe this myth that gubmint workers are lazy and inessential parasites, this conflagration will inevitably restore people's respect for and protection of government. You don't know what you got til it's gone. The pain and damage this unleashes won't penetrate conservative skulls -- those people are long gone from reality -- but they will provide an excellent reality check for liberals who think "the only dignified work is the sweat of your brow, derpa-derp."

This is like Stalin purging his generals. I'm sure that seemed like a good idea right up until Barbarossa made Russians, um, reconsider.
The death of Stalin remake is gonna be lit
 
The irony is, as most Americans believe this myth that gubmint workers are lazy and inessential parasites, this conflagration will inevitably restore people's respect for and protection of government. You don't know what you got til it's gone. The pain and damage this unleashes won't penetrate conservative skulls -- those people are long gone from reality -- but they will provide an excellent reality check for liberals who think "the only dignified work is the sweat of your brow, derpa-derp."

This is like Stalin purging his generals. I'm sure that seemed like a good idea right up until Barbarossa made Russians, um, reconsider.
The amount of Trumpers saying "I am all for getting rid of the bad workers but you cut me and I'm not bad" shows how self centered their worldview is.
 
It's claptrap like that does more to help Republicans win than anything else. Both sides are the same, nobody represents you! Most Americans want the same! (except they don't)

The simple explanation is "never explain with conspiracy what can be explain with stupidity." Democrats and their leadership are a party of norms, a party of rules, a party of unity and empathy. The problem is the opposing party is a party of destruction, a party of greed, a party of "do whatever it takes to grab power". It's not a grand conspiracy of working together to screw everyone, it's because the Democratic leadership is old, has no idea how to operate in the modern political world, and refuse to yield power because the people that could get them out of power are just as feckless and lazy.
 
Long post:

So I had an interesting chat with a co-worker yesterday which surprised me. Couple things to note, she voted for yam tits because she admitted she didn't understand Harris. To her, Harris sounded like the teacher from Peanuts and she never could grasp what campaign issues Harris was pushing. But this coworker understood what Trump was, and liked what she was being sold. For her, the "bumper sticker" oneliners made more sense to her than having to research Harris's website to find everything she was proposing.

What took me back a little bit was this coworker is college educated, has an EIT and is scheduled to take the PE this spring. She's not dumb, and has critical thinking skills, but there's just something not clicking between her and the Democrats. She also is a Joe Rogan listener and a couple other podcasts she's mentioned as listening to I recall being very right biased.

She, like many, see the government continuing this slide into debt as unreasonable (honestly, we all do) and there needs to be serious cuts to bring the budget back in line. Because, that's what she had to do in college when she was strapped for cash. She sees these drastic cuts as necessary.

The big cut she mentioned was how the Postal Service should be privatized if they are going to keep being a drain. I summarized briefly how congress put the USPS into the hole they're in. She still was dismissive and said it should be privatized anyway, there are businesses that do what they do.

So I had to explain how that's fine around here in Chicagoland. Amazon has their own delivery fleets, UPS, FedEx, DHL and the like are all in the area and all do delivery. But outside of the population areas. The USPS does the last mile delivery. And I had to explain this to her. It took a few different examples and personal experiences, but I kept repeating that the Government provides a service, it's not a business. The government provides what businesses either refuse to, or would price it so expensive that it's not feasible.

You could see the lightbulb moment when she realized service versus business. Maybe it's the fact I grew up in a town where they merged with two neighboring towns to save money and didn't even double the population, and experienced these last mile services first hand and her experience with it is glamping for a week every year.


Anyway, I really don't have a wrap up to this, I just needed to vent.

And maybe somehow someone smarter than I can break through to people like her and get the messaging across.
 
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