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Dump Term 2, 1.01: Sleep Now in the Fire

Handyman said:
I didn't watch...but what was so bad about the Dems?
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Except for Al Green, they sat there with their auctioneer paddles and protest outfits and homemade signs and looked like a bunch of college students protesting their administration for some random cause de jeur rather than a party staring at a group of people willingly tearing the country apart. What a bunch of pansy-ass wimps. They should've gone full British House of Commons and instead did whatever it is that was.
 
Did my part by not watching. The only thing he cares about last night is how it did in the ratings. The best way to protest is by not watching and get him low ratings.
 
jericho said:
Did my part by not watching. The only thing he cares about last night is how it did in the ratings. The best way to protest is by not watching and get him low ratings.
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Yeah, I don't understand anyone wanting to watch that.

My racing club had it's monthly meeting last night, so I went to that and had an excellent clam chowder and a beer. When I got home, since it was the last day of a Paramount+ subscription deal we had, I watched a movie I had on My List. Turned out, the movie sucked (Singularity), but it was still better than any crap coming out of D.C.
 
unofan said:
Except for Al Green, they sat there with their auctioneer paddles and protest outfits and homemade signs and looked like a bunch of college students protesting their administration for some random cause de jeur rather than a party staring at a group of people willingly tearing the country apart. What a bunch of pansy-ass wimps. They should've gone full British House of Commons and instead did whatever it is that was.
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Al Green has done more for this country last night than the average Democrat has done since November
 
jericho said:
Did my part by not watching. The only thing he cares about last night is how it did in the ratings. The best way to protest is by not watching and get him low ratings.
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I pretty much shut it off after the first paragraph of outright lies. The reporting of what the Dems did just proves that they have no clue what to do. The only thing I will say about that in their defense is there is probably people in the party that would disagree with whatever they did. They have really put themselves in a corner and I do not see that they will ever get out of it.
 
Jimjamesak said:
AOC probably had it right by not even showing up and answering questions on BlueSky.
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I'm not a big fan of AOC nor her policies, which are too progressive for me.

But I have always liked her gumption and how often she gives the proverbial middle finger to the old, white, male GOP establishment (see Texas power failure as an example). So, for that reason, I tend to root for her. She definitely knows how to play the political game better than most Democrats. She is a heck of a lot smarter than many people realize (or want to realize).
 
beaverhockeyfan said:
I couldn't make it through the first five minutes. I can't stand his voice or the way he delivers his speeches.......
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To anyone with a functioning brain, his schtick got old years ago. Hell, his 2024 rallies weren't anywhere near as well attended as the 2016 rallies.

Half this country are just sociopathic morons. "Does this policy or program benefit me personally & directly? No? Then it's bad and waste, get rid of it."
 
ScoobyDoo said:
That's BS. Susan Collins hasn't stood for anything her entire career. She doesn't fall, she keeps getting elected.
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She does fall for everything. Everything Kavanaugh told her about respecting precedent. Donnie learning his lesson. And so on.

She's the most gullible, pushover 'moderate Republican' that's ever been in the Senate. Tell her not to worry, and she's like "ok"
 
SCOTUS rules 5-4 that yes, Trump has to follow the Constitution by ordering him to resume funding to USAID as ordered by Congress. Alito is shocked, SHOCKED, that Matthew Kacsmaryk isn’t the only fuckstick allowed to make nationwide injunctions.
 
rufus said:
She does fall for everything. Everything Kavanaugh told her about respecting precedent. Donnie learning his lesson. And so on.

She's the most gullible, pushover 'moderate Republican' that's ever been in the Senate. Tell her not to worry, and she's like "ok"
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And they keep electing her to the Senate. 1 out of 100 in the entire United States. She falls on purpose for X, so she can get elected to Y by the dumb and stupid.
 
psych said:
SCOTUS rules 5-4 that yes, Trump has to follow the Constitution by ordering him to resume funding to USAID as ordered by Congress. Alito is shocked, SHOCKED, that Matthew Kacsmaryk isn’t the only fuckstick allowed to make nationwide injunctions.
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"Mr. Roberts has issued his decision; now let him enforce it"
 
Jimjamesak said:
AOC probably had it right by not even showing up and answering questions on BlueSky.
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I will always have an issue with people screaming and yelling during the SOTU (going back to Joe Wilson doing it to Obama) but if the Dems had any stones they would have walked out en masse while he talked. It would have aggravated him (and a lot of people in the short term) but history would remember them and it would have inspired more than it would have upset. I think AOC is kind of full of crap most of the time (not her policies just in general) but her choice was perfect.

The Democrats will continue to lose until they realize that the people are looking for them to fight even a losing battle. They don't want to hear about bipartisanship or big speeches with finger wagging...they want to see some action. Standing outside buildings or going on MSNBC is not enough. There is not anyone in leadership who most of us dont think wont sell us out and that is best shown by letting people like Elise Slotkin or Hakeem Jeffries be the voice of "The Resistance". They aren't resisting...they are going through their motions and doing what they can to make sure they get enough donations for their next run. They are collaborators, and truth be told, if there is a Democratic Party in 4 years they need to be as far away from leadership as possible.
 
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I don't think that walking out would have made an ounce of difference. The people that didn't watch still wouldn't know the difference, MAGA would be just as outraged, the far left would still think they're smarter than everyone else...
 
Slap Shot said:
I don't think that walking out would have made an ounce of difference. The people that didn't watch still wouldn't know the difference, MAGA would be just as outraged, the far left would still think they're smarter than everyone else...
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Sorry but you are wrong. People want to see action (even if it is overall performative) and the Dems show zero action or any ability to even organize an action. MAGA can get all huffy they aren't what matters what matters is what the rest of the country thinks and no one trusts the Democrats to do anything but exactly what they did...sit on their hands and hold up signs. Walking out at least makes it look like they care. Look at what Bernie is able to do even now and he is 1000 years old with very little clout...people want to be lead.

It doesnt matter if people watched, they will still see what happened and I promise you they will feel better today than they do right now. And as for the Far Left, they are smarter than the rest of the Democrats the problem is the donor class prefers useful idiots and sellouts. That is why they pimp Jeffries or Ro Khanna, they are bought and paid for and would rather lead from behind than make waves. The Democrats, like usual, dont even have the courage of their convictions...they tell us how evil Trump is, then have no issue bending over and taking it in the hopes they can raise some cash and keep their cushy job. (and I am hardly the Far Left but I would trust them over the clowns in the DNC now especially their new leader Ken Martin of the DFL)

Here is perfect example: https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ljnitl7ilj2y
 

Adam Schwarz (@adamjschwarz.bsky.social)

French Senator Claude Malhuret: "Washington has become Nero’s court, with an incendiary emperor, submissive courtiers and a jester high on ketamine... We were at war with a dictator, we are now at war with a dictator backed by a traitor."
bsky.app bsky.app

Even the French Right hates Trump and Musk.

(he is Center-Right if I read correctly)

Even Le Pen is denouncing Trump...
 
Handyman said:
Sorry but you are wrong. People want to see action (even if it is overall performative) and the Dems show zero action or any ability to even organize an action. MAGA can get all huffy they aren't what matters what matters is what the rest of the country thinks and no one trusts the Democrats to do anything but exactly what they did...sit on their hands and hold up signs. Walking out at least makes it look like they care. Look at what Bernie is able to do even now and he is 1000 years old with very little clout...people want to be lead.

It doesnt matter if people watched, they will still see what happened and I promise you they will feel better today than they do right now. And as for the Far Left, they are smarter than the rest of the Democrats the problem is the donor class prefers useful idiots and sellouts. That is why they pimp Jeffries or Ro Khanna, they are bought and paid for and would rather lead from behind than make waves. The Democrats, like usual, dont even have the courage of their convictions...they tell us how evil Trump is, then have no issue bending over and taking it in the hopes they can raise some cash and keep their cushy job. (and I am hardly the Far Left but I would trust them over the clowns in the DNC now especially their new leader Ken Martin of the DFL)

Here is perfect example: https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ljnitl7ilj2y
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The people need to see someone who is willing to stand up and fight for them. Even if it's mostly bullshit. Why do you think MAGA has such a devoted cult?

Performative art is half the battle. They see you willing to stand, and they'll listen to what you say. You just sit there and mumble, "well, maybe we can do this" that doesn't inspire anyone.

People are getting screwed. They need to see someone at least step up and try to stop them from being screwed. At least they fight, even if they end up losing. Doing nothing, you lose anyway, and you don't get people on your side. If Donald Trump is the second coming of Hitler, as you campaigned on, then fucking act like it. Don't go all Neville Chamberlain on the bit.

And why's Warner smiling? That phony Kloubachar perma-smile.
 
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