GreatLakerMohawk
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Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
Since when did having a rookie QB become the f-cking problem?
Jesus.
Since when did having a rookie QB become the f-cking problem?
Jesus.
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Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
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Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
It's not, which is what I think you are saying. It's the (slow) start of a bigger solution.
If someone thought Stafford would lead this team to a near-.500 or better record........I want what they are smoking.
It's not, which is what I think you are saying. It's the (slow) start of a bigger solution.
If someone thought Stafford would lead this team to a near-.500 or better record........I want what they are smoking.
GreatLakerMohawk
Mushroom Cloud-Laying Mofo
Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
A lot of the complaints today are because he threw five INTs and it's crazy. Rookie QBs thrown into the fire on bad teams are destined to have bad games. Last week his receivers let him down for dropping everything thrown at them and this week the coaches seemed to want to make him throw it every down.
Every year is a building year for the Lions and this one is no different as its the first year after Millen conspired with WCF to make sure Detroit Lions football would be irrelevant for a good long time. Taking a sh-t on a kid who has nothing around him to work with aside from ONE receiver who's worth a daamn is crazy.
A lot of the complaints today are because he threw five INTs and it's crazy. Rookie QBs thrown into the fire on bad teams are destined to have bad games. Last week his receivers let him down for dropping everything thrown at them and this week the coaches seemed to want to make him throw it every down.
Every year is a building year for the Lions and this one is no different as its the first year after Millen conspired with WCF to make sure Detroit Lions football would be irrelevant for a good long time. Taking a sh-t on a kid who has nothing around him to work with aside from ONE receiver who's worth a daamn is crazy.
Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
then we are on the same page.
Stafford is a start. Megatron (CalJo, as you put it
) is another brick. Kevin Smith? Servicable I guess, but he'll do for now, while you build the other needs (and more important needs). It's gonna be a 5-year job, and that's if everything falls into place.
then we are on the same page.
Stafford is a start. Megatron (CalJo, as you put it
) is another brick. Kevin Smith? Servicable I guess, but he'll do for now, while you build the other needs (and more important needs). It's gonna be a 5-year job, and that's if everything falls into place.
GreatLakerMohawk
Mushroom Cloud-Laying Mofo
Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
Smart free agency signings can cut that time down. Also actually being active in the free agent market as well as drafting well would help. Pettigrew, Stafford and Delmas all, so far, look like solid picks.
then we are on the same page.
Stafford is a start. Megatron (CalJo, as you put it
Smart free agency signings can cut that time down. Also actually being active in the free agent market as well as drafting well would help. Pettigrew, Stafford and Delmas all, so far, look like solid picks.
Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
While Stafford had a very bad game for at least a second time this season, I don't think he's the problem. So I agree Stafford is a start. Although, I'm interested in seeing his and Johnson's relationship for the future- they were from different planets at times yesterday.
and I think Smith is more than serviceable- he's shown some speed an agility.
For the O, it's the line. And forget the draft- it takes more time to develop a high quality O lineman than it does a QB. Use the draft to trade for players. Solid, team players. If Matthew wasn't so hurried, he would have enough time to check through mutliple reads even before going to the primary. If the line wasn't so bad, he and calvin would not have to make sure they are on the same planet for quick reads. etc etc. It's all the line.
But it's the defense that really bugs me. It's like there's something in the water here in SE MI- they covered just as bad as Michigan does now. How does a 2 win team with a decent QB have a best ever day???? Oh, yea, play the Lions. the line is bad, but worse yet the backs are worse. Or is it the scheme? But all in all, they seem to be easy to assess, and then pick apart as the game goes on.
For all his Bravado, Cunningham has a lot to do.
then we are on the same page.
Stafford is a start. Megatron (CalJo, as you put it
While Stafford had a very bad game for at least a second time this season, I don't think he's the problem. So I agree Stafford is a start. Although, I'm interested in seeing his and Johnson's relationship for the future- they were from different planets at times yesterday.
and I think Smith is more than serviceable- he's shown some speed an agility.
For the O, it's the line. And forget the draft- it takes more time to develop a high quality O lineman than it does a QB. Use the draft to trade for players. Solid, team players. If Matthew wasn't so hurried, he would have enough time to check through mutliple reads even before going to the primary. If the line wasn't so bad, he and calvin would not have to make sure they are on the same planet for quick reads. etc etc. It's all the line.
But it's the defense that really bugs me. It's like there's something in the water here in SE MI- they covered just as bad as Michigan does now. How does a 2 win team with a decent QB have a best ever day???? Oh, yea, play the Lions. the line is bad, but worse yet the backs are worse. Or is it the scheme? But all in all, they seem to be easy to assess, and then pick apart as the game goes on.
For all his Bravado, Cunningham has a lot to do.
Hammer
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Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
Cunningham doesn't have much to work with either. He's got a couple linebackers, two turnips and an onion, and he has to conjure up a defense out of that.
The cornerbacks are nickel and dime backs in any competent secondary, and they're being asked to start here. Anthony Henry left his last team because they asked him to move from corner to safety because they didn't think he was fast enough to play corner anymore. When we picked him up we counted on him to be a starter at corner. Philip Buchanon has bounced around the league a bit, and there's a reason why. The others (Will James and Co.) would be 3rd and 4th cornerbacks on any respectable defense, and now they're part of the revolving door starting at corner as well.
Louis Delmas is a start at safety, and Ko Simpson might have been a nice pickup. But other than that, the safeties are not good, either.
The defensive line has not been able to pressure the quarterback at all. Avril is inconsistent, Dwyane White was a Rod Marinelli guy that was a backup in Tampa, and the middle of the defensive line is either past its prime or really isn't going to do much.
It's hard for Cunningham to make filet mignon out of spoiled hamburger with wet charcoal to cook it with.
Cunningham doesn't have much to work with either. He's got a couple linebackers, two turnips and an onion, and he has to conjure up a defense out of that.
The cornerbacks are nickel and dime backs in any competent secondary, and they're being asked to start here. Anthony Henry left his last team because they asked him to move from corner to safety because they didn't think he was fast enough to play corner anymore. When we picked him up we counted on him to be a starter at corner. Philip Buchanon has bounced around the league a bit, and there's a reason why. The others (Will James and Co.) would be 3rd and 4th cornerbacks on any respectable defense, and now they're part of the revolving door starting at corner as well.
Louis Delmas is a start at safety, and Ko Simpson might have been a nice pickup. But other than that, the safeties are not good, either.
The defensive line has not been able to pressure the quarterback at all. Avril is inconsistent, Dwyane White was a Rod Marinelli guy that was a backup in Tampa, and the middle of the defensive line is either past its prime or really isn't going to do much.
It's hard for Cunningham to make filet mignon out of spoiled hamburger with wet charcoal to cook it with.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
Particularly when, early on, he was great. I heard every down of this game (Seahawks fan), and Stafford was destroying us. When we adjusted, Detroit had no other options left, but that isn't the kid, it's bare cupboards and a team still building from basics.
This isn't the Rams or Panthers or Redskins -- you are going in the right direction. It will be ugly for a while, but there's a silver lining there (draft picks). Get it, Lions, silver?
Particularly when, early on, he was great. I heard every down of this game (Seahawks fan), and Stafford was destroying us. When we adjusted, Detroit had no other options left, but that isn't the kid, it's bare cupboards and a team still building from basics.
This isn't the Rams or Panthers or Redskins -- you are going in the right direction. It will be ugly for a while, but there's a silver lining there (draft picks). Get it, Lions, silver?
GreatLakerMohawk
Mushroom Cloud-Laying Mofo
Billy Blanks
I fix fat people
Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
I like Jim Schwartz and think that if he's given talent, he'll succeed. I also think Mayhew has done ok, some good some bad. But that's a step in the right direction for this team.
I think they're both behind the 8 ball because they have a team that is devoid of good NFL talent at almost every position and they're starting a rookie at QB. That will doom almost anybody.
Next year the Lions should be a 5-6 win team. Two years from now they should be back to the usual 8-8. In three years they'll be competitive....just in time for the lockout!
I like Jim Schwartz and think that if he's given talent, he'll succeed. I also think Mayhew has done ok, some good some bad. But that's a step in the right direction for this team.
I think they're both behind the 8 ball because they have a team that is devoid of good NFL talent at almost every position and they're starting a rookie at QB. That will doom almost anybody.
Next year the Lions should be a 5-6 win team. Two years from now they should be back to the usual 8-8. In three years they'll be competitive....just in time for the lockout!
bronconick
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Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
Hah. This is worse then the Rams game.
Hah. This is worse then the Rams game.
Twitch Boy
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Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
Brady Quinn has a perfect passer rating right now. That should be illegal.
Brady Quinn has a perfect passer rating right now. That should be illegal.
Hammer
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Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
Okay, I just saw it, but I still don't believe it.
Lions win on the last play of the game, after a PI in the end zone with no time on the clock. 38-37.
Stafford might have wrecked his left shoulder getting buried by the Browns DT.
Okay, I just saw it, but I still don't believe it.
Lions win on the last play of the game, after a PI in the end zone with no time on the clock. 38-37.
Stafford might have wrecked his left shoulder getting buried by the Browns DT.
Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
Wait, so what you're saying here is that the Lions have now one 2 games this year???
GreatLakerMohawk
Mushroom Cloud-Laying Mofo
Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
It was Shaun Rogers wasn't it? You know, cause that would make sense.
What a ridiculous ending.
It was Shaun Rogers wasn't it? You know, cause that would make sense.
What a ridiculous ending.
GreatLakerMohawk
Mushroom Cloud-Laying Mofo
Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
You should have said this, since it's the Browns and they're God-freaking-awful.
I mean, come on, they take in guys the Lions let go. That's terrifying.
You should have said this, since it's the Browns and they're God-freaking-awful.
I mean, come on, they take in guys the Lions let go. That's terrifying.
Spartanforlife4
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Re: Detroit Lions 2009: May the Schwartz be with us.
So, you guys thinking Culpepper against the Pack on Thursday? Stafford didn't look like he had a shoulder at the end.
So, you guys thinking Culpepper against the Pack on Thursday? Stafford didn't look like he had a shoulder at the end.