D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

[polarbear2]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

FINAL:

Hamilton 2
Colby 1

 

[5 4 Fighting]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

So...who made the phone call to collegehockeystats about the travesty of Leclerc not getting a point for being on the ice last night for Norwich's lone goal and got that changed I guess that's almost as good as a win.

Hey 5 4, what was that about playing for awards?

Laura Hurd wouldn't have cared...

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

So...who made the phone call to collegehockeystats about the travesty of Leclerc not getting a point for being on the ice last night for Norwich's lone goal and got that changed I guess that's almost as good as a win.

Hey 5 4, what was that about playing for awards?

No moaning here. Guess I'm just a proponent of getting things right. My bad.

Take a sip of your own medicine Trots.

 

[polarbear2]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

FINAL:

Conn. College 4
Bowdoin 3

SOG 36 - 35 Bowdoin

 

[nyi19]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

Take a sip of your own medicine Trots.

Wasn't it a road game?

Hey, I'm all for getting things right, you know that. Just some competitive ribbing.

 

[notfromaroundhere]

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Puzzling as to why Adrian would start(statistically) their third best goalie in a pivotal conference game.

I understand the #1 goalie got dinged in the first game and was not able to play today. The "statistically" third best goalie managed to staunch the bleeding against RIT last week (only 2 goals in the 3rd) after the #1 gave up 6 goals in the first 2 periods.

I've seen both of Adrian's backups play a few years ago, and IMHO they gave the better goalie the start.

Not a great game statistically, but with Adrian, you tend to get weak 2nd games (a team effort) on many weekends.

 

[dontyelldad]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

This RIT has no class conversation is getting old...we have it every year.

Yah, and that speaks volumes, doesn't it?

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Laura Hurd wouldn't have cared.

Alright. I've bit my tongue on this long enough.

5 4 this is nothing personal but give it a rest bud.

You never even met Laura, correct? I did and I knew her family quite well too. The day I found out the news of her passing was one of the worst days of my life. I lost a friend.

I also know Sophie Leclerc and her family and I can tell you she exemplifies everything you would want in a Laura Hurd Award winner.

She gives 110 percent on every shift of every game. She will oftentimes pass the puck to a teammate rather than take a shot herself. Her stats probably could have been better every season if she was a bit more selfish with her shot selection but instead she thinks pass first rather than shoot first.

I've watched Sophie play close to 20 times now and I've never seen a game where she wasn't the best player on the ice. Laura was the same way.

This non-sense saying Leclerc's stats are tainted etc is mularkey and needs to end. The NCAA cleared her to play. End of story.

 

[nyi19]

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Alright. I've bit my tongue on this long enough.

5 4 this is nothing personal but give it a rest bud.

You never even met Laura, correct? I did and I knew her family quite well too. The day I found out the news of her passing was one of the worst days of my life. I lost a friend.

I also know Sophie Leclerc and her family and I can tell you she exemplifies everything you would want in a Laura Hurd Award winner.

She gives 110 percent on every shift of every game. She will oftentimes pass the puck to a teammate rather than take a shot herself. Her stats probably could have been better every season if she was a bit more selfish with her shot selection but instead she thinks pass first rather than shoot first.

I've watched Sophie play close to 20 times now and I've never seen a game where she wasn't the best player on the ice. Laura was the same way.

This non-sense saying Leclerc's stats are tainted etc is mularkey and needs to end. The NCAA cleared her to play. End of story.

Don't disagree with most of what you are saying here. But there is no precedent for stopping a discussion about an NCAA decision before on this forum. If there are people who still want to talk about it, little can be done.

 

[5 4 Fighting]

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Prez, I'm well aware of your relationship with Laura Hurd and you are correct, I never had the privilege in meeting her but have met and spoken with both her parents as they continue to attend a few hockey games a year at EC. I'm truly sorry you lost a friend.

You also understand the ties that bind at Elmira College with respect to Laura Hurd and her parents as well as the traditions that continue at the College today in her memory. None of that stopped when you left.

Elmira College introduces you to the memory of Laura Hurd the day you walk on campus. Whether it's the All American banners hanging, the record books, the obvious exclusion of # 4 on any ECWH uniform or the fact that one locker continues to sit empty in the dressing room which every upperclassman hopes to have the privilege of dressing beside someday. The goalies helmets are emblazoned with # 4 and her sweater proudly hangs on the hallowed walls of the Booster Club. Furthermore the fact that coach Fargo was also a good friend and classmate of Laura's ensures that not a day goes by at Elmira College that you are not reminded of her or the type of person she was. Her memory is respected and revered.

No Prez, I never met Laura Hurd but I feel like I have...we all do.

So...when people start handing out the award named in her honor 1/3 of the way through the year...I think it's just plain wrong and I'm going to call them out on it.

Out of respect it is my opinion that The Laura Hurd should be held to a higher standard than any other award at the D3 College level and have come to realize that lobbying for it is well below those standards.

If you want to call me out on that...I guess, fill yer boots.

 

[vulcan]

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I understand the #1 goalie got dinged in the first game and was not able to play today. The "statistically" third best goalie managed to staunch the bleeding against RIT last week (only 2 goals in the 3rd) after the #1 gave up 6 goals in the first 2 periods.

I've seen both of Adrian's backups play a few years ago, and IMHO they gave the better goalie the start.

Not a great game statistically, but with Adrian, you tend to get weak 2nd games (a team effort) on many weekends.

Adrian outshot Steven's Point 26-20 so how was it not a great game statistically? I did not see game, how were the the quality of shots were from either side, etc? Two of the goals were SP power plays. I'm not sure how your basing your goalie opinion, but that's okay. Not really important. Where was the team that took three out of four from second place Superior?

 

[notfromaroundhere]

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Adrian outshot Steven's Point 26-20 so how was it not a great game statistically? I did not see game, how were the the quality of shots were from either side, etc? Two of the goals were SP power plays. I'm not sure how your basing your goalie opinion, but that's okay. Not really important. Where was the team that took three out of four from second place Superior?

It has been some time since I've seen them play and although goalies do regress, what you see in a goalie in their last year of club/prep hockey is pretty much 90% baked for the college game. Not taking away from the weekend at Superior, but Superior is a very young team and she played them relatively early in the season.

Hoping the same for Michelin. Good news is that they have Finlandia at home next weekend. Will give the other 2 goalies some ice time to compete for. I didn't see today's game either and only saw the same stats as you did and will be interested to see how the coach makes the decision for next weekend (I doubt they will rush Michelin back and risk further injury).

 

[gojackets]

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It has been some time since I've seen them play and although goalies do regress, what you see in a goalie in their last year of club/prep hockey is pretty much 90% baked for the college game. Not taking away from the weekend at Superior, but Superior is a very young team and she played them relatively early in the season.

I agree that Superior probably isn't the same team they were back in early december. Superior has always seemed to struggle against Adrian though

 

[Mania]

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Folks, we have been over this before. It's this coach's MO.

16-0-0 team against a 0-7-0 team who has his team direct 23 shots at a clearly beaten opponent in the 3rd period while running his top lines. Add this mentality to coach playing the proposed D1 move card as a recruiting tool and I would suggest you have something well short of a Coach of the Year candidate.

When are you leaving again?

Lol, who says that is the MO?

Maybe he wanted everyone to have a chance to score?

What would you have them do? Skate around with the puck for the rest of the game? I would think that would be even more embarrassing.

 

[spike]

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The counter argument to this is how disrespectful is it to play keep away? As a hockey player I find that to be more embarassing.

The problem is is that there is no solution but to not schedule the inferior team. Obviously with conferences this is not possible. Had RIT called off the dogs and played keep away we may not be talking about it on here, but those that were at the game may be disgusted by the lack of respect shown for the opponent. On the other hand, if they keep playing and trying to get better as a team and end up running up the score, we all go crazy as if we know what it is like to be on the ice in a game like that. I know the point was brought up last year that even if RIT were to be rolling their 3rd and 4th line people would be upset that they were scoring goals. But is the coach supposed to ask his players that barely see the ice to not try and score some points for themselves? Are you going to ask your young freshman not to try and rack up a few points for themselves?

I am not saying I agree with running up a score, but I am not saying I am not. I think each situation is different and it is easy for us as observers to sit back and complain.

Good point, at the end of the day whether you run up the score or just play keep away, there will be an element of respect to consider. However, if the better team is "****ed if they do, ****ed if they don't", I still think I'd err on the side of skating around with the puck. At least that way, you at least give the opponent a chance to step it up and try to play some defense. And, if they just quit, at least you aren't doing irreperable harm to the poor goalie's statistics when it clearly is not her fault.

 

[5 4 Fighting]

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Lol, who says that is the MO?

Maybe he wanted everyone to have a chance to score?

What would you have them do? Skate around with the puck for the rest of the game? I would think that would be even more embarrassing.

Nobody's laughing.

How else would you explain a 23 shot 3rd on Saturday and a 11 shot 3rd on Sunday in 2 blow out games?

Your boy's got rabbit ears...

 

[OnMAA]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

Lol, who says that is the MO?

Maybe he wanted everyone to have a chance to score?

What would you have them do? Skate around with the puck for the rest of the game? I would think that would be even more embarrassing.

It's very simple. Sit your top lines. Double shift lines 3 and 4 and, giving them playing time, and make everyone shoot from above the circles only, and play all five D on the PP. Up here in Canuck land there is such a thing as "respect for the game", "respect for the refs" and "respect for the oppostion". I witnessed another case of running up the score this weekend. Put a bitter taste in my mouth, and lost a lot of respect for that team, specially considering it was a meaningless NC game.

 

[LtPowers]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

It's very simple. Sit your top lines. Double shift lines 3 and 4 and, giving them playing time, and make everyone shoot from above the circles only, and play all five D on the PP. Up here in Canuck land there is such a thing as "respect for the game", "respect for the refs" and "respect for the oppostion". I witnessed another case of running up the score this weekend. Put a bitter taste in my mouth, and lost a lot of respect for that team, specially considering it was a meaningless NC game.

Where is the respect for the opposition in saying "Look, we can beat you with one hand tied behind our backs"? That's showing off. "Respect" means treating the opponent as an equal.


Powers &8^]

 

[OnMAA]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

Where is the respect for the opposition in saying "Look, we can beat you with one hand tied behind our backs"? That's showing off. "Respect" means treating the opponent as an equal.

Powers &8^]

With all due respect, playing your 3rd and 4th lines more and shooting from far only is not the same as showing up the opposition. Doing this is even beneficial for the winning team by giving the 3rd and 4th liners more playing time. I think it is much more disrespectful to run up the score and show them "Look how good we are". Once a score is plus five you back off, specially in the third period. Finish the game and move on. IMHO, running up the score is embarrasing for both teams. The only time I would accept/understand it, is if goal differential is factor in a closely contested race near the wire.

 

[5 4 Fighting]

Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

With all due respect, playing your 3 and 4 the lines more and shooting from far only is not the same as showing up the opposition. It even works for the wining team by giving the 3rd and 4th liners more playing time. I think it is more disrespectful to run up the score and show "Look how good we are".

Save your breath OnMAA these guys don't have any respect ...all due or otherwise. She's win at all costs for these boy's and if you can run a weaker team through the end of the rink while doing it ...all the better. Voodoo catches up to them every year as it will this year.