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D3 scores 2014-2015
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
Walther's accomplishment was amazing, but let us not overlook Marsh in the Panther net. I imagine it is difficult to have so little action for extended periods, stay focused and then suddenly be challenged knowing the season rides on making the save. Marsh made a couple of big stops in (who can remember which) OT.
Walther's accomplishment was amazing, but let us not overlook Marsh in the Panther net. I imagine it is difficult to have so little action for extended periods, stay focused and then suddenly be challenged knowing the season rides on making the save. Marsh made a couple of big stops in (who can remember which) OT.
alternatecaptain
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
I'm sure it was a good game for her, but saving 31/33 is a fairly normal game. 80/82 is not. You really can't compare the two games. One goalie was playing the game of her life, the other was playing a fairly typical game. You really cannot compare the two performances here.
I'm sure it was a good game for her, but saving 31/33 is a fairly normal game. 80/82 is not. You really can't compare the two games. One goalie was playing the game of her life, the other was playing a fairly typical game. You really cannot compare the two performances here.
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How is it possible to describe a 4 OT game, as a senior goalie, knowing you are playing facing possible elimination from NCAA consideration and the instant end of your career as typical?
How is it possible to describe a 4 OT game, as a senior goalie, knowing you are playing facing possible elimination from NCAA consideration and the instant end of your career as typical?
Couldn't agree more.
gojackets
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
It will be interesting to see how the West rankings shake out this week. My prediction..
River Falls jumps back up
1. River Falls
2. Adrian
3. Stevens Point
4. Gustavus
5. St. Norbert
6. ____________(Lake Forest will probably stay there...could Bethel move in? They are 15-9-3[LFC is 12-8-3], their last 25% is 5-1-1 vs LFC who is 2-4, Bethel is 3-2 vs ranked (2-1 vs Gustavus and 1-1 vs River Falls)
It will be interesting to see how the West rankings shake out this week. My prediction..
River Falls jumps back up
1. River Falls
2. Adrian
3. Stevens Point
4. Gustavus
5. St. Norbert
6. ____________(Lake Forest will probably stay there...could Bethel move in? They are 15-9-3[LFC is 12-8-3], their last 25% is 5-1-1 vs LFC who is 2-4, Bethel is 3-2 vs ranked (2-1 vs Gustavus and 1-1 vs River Falls)
gojackets
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
It would have been nice for Amherst and Trinity to lose this weekend to seal the deal on the 4-4 split
So now that 3rd spot is a Stevens Point-Gustavus-Trinity(?) comparison right?
It would have been nice for Amherst and Trinity to lose this weekend to seal the deal on the 4-4 split
So now that 3rd spot is a Stevens Point-Gustavus-Trinity(?) comparison right?CrossCheck
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
Disagree completely. Granted, Walter must have had a phenom game....but you can't dismiss what Marsh did. As a Sr. it very well was "Win or go home...forever" [I recall a certain QF loss last year that send Middy packing for the summer]...beyond that, can you imagine the typical clueless parents "geez we out shoot them 8 to 3 and we loose? Must have been the goalie's fault" Remember too that Hamilton was there on a lark after a mediocre season totally playing with 'house money'...if Midd loses again its a disaster. Now THAT'S Pressure.
Disagree completely. Granted, Walter must have had a phenom game....but you can't dismiss what Marsh did. As a Sr. it very well was "Win or go home...forever" [I recall a certain QF loss last year that send Middy packing for the summer]...beyond that, can you imagine the typical clueless parents "geez we out shoot them 8 to 3 and we loose? Must have been the goalie's fault" Remember too that Hamilton was there on a lark after a mediocre season totally playing with 'house money'...if Midd loses again its a disaster. Now THAT'S Pressure.
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The only way Stevens Point can even be considered would be for them to jump Gustavus Adolphus in this weeks rankings, which is a real possibility. If that happens, the Gusties are done. If it doesn't happen on Tuesday, it could still happen with a win in the WIAC finals. However, to say Stevens Point is in win or lose is not set in stone.
BTW, what makes you think that Adrian will drop in the rankings? River Falls won two games that will only serve to hurt their SOS and Adrian didn't play. Also, Gustavus will not drop below St. Norbert or Lake Forest. They might drop to #4, but no further.
The only way Stevens Point can even be considered would be for them to jump Gustavus Adolphus in this weeks rankings, which is a real possibility. If that happens, the Gusties are done. If it doesn't happen on Tuesday, it could still happen with a win in the WIAC finals. However, to say Stevens Point is in win or lose is not set in stone.
BTW, what makes you think that Adrian will drop in the rankings? River Falls won two games that will only serve to hurt their SOS and Adrian didn't play. Also, Gustavus will not drop below St. Norbert or Lake Forest. They might drop to #4, but no further.
gojackets
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
Adrian and River Falls were neck and neck last week. I think it depends on who is in the 6 spot. You're right, there is no way that Gustavus drops to 6. I'd think it serves the western committee better to have River Falls at #1. I do think that Stevens Point will jump Gustavus this week as Gustavus has been floundering at the end of the season so their L25 is not good, 3-3 vs UWSP's 5-1 and their records are pretty comparable too now.
If Lake Forest stays in at #6 Adrian will be in 1st, if Bethel moves into 6th then River Falls will be first.
Adrian and River Falls were neck and neck last week. I think it depends on who is in the 6 spot. You're right, there is no way that Gustavus drops to 6. I'd think it serves the western committee better to have River Falls at #1. I do think that Stevens Point will jump Gustavus this week as Gustavus has been floundering at the end of the season so their L25 is not good, 3-3 vs UWSP's 5-1 and their records are pretty comparable too now.
If Lake Forest stays in at #6 Adrian will be in 1st, if Bethel moves into 6th then River Falls will be first.
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Let's not forget that either St. Thomas or Bethel are all ready in for sure and if Adrian does not win the NCHA then the NCHA winner & Adrian are in which makes three (3) from the west. River Falls or Stevens Point needs help from the East to get in as a Pool C.
Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
I think three from the west is a given. If Adrian does win the NCHA, I think River Falls is in. If Adrian loses, River Falls would have to be rooting for Middlebury, Norwich, and Plattsburgh or Elmira to win. I haven't looked really closely, but I think River Falls compares favorably with the NESCAC runner-up.
I think three from the west is a given. If Adrian does win the NCHA, I think River Falls is in. If Adrian loses, River Falls would have to be rooting for Middlebury, Norwich, and Plattsburgh or Elmira to win. I haven't looked really closely, but I think River Falls compares favorably with the NESCAC runner-up.
DedicatedFan
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
The race between Stevens Point and Gustavus is too close to call. Assuming all of my calculations are right, GAC comes out ahead in win/loss % and head-to-head. SP comes out ahead in SOS and last 25%. I’m not sure how COP is determined (whether it is a straight percentage or if points are awarded for wins and ties). SP’s record is 13-5-1 and GAC’s record is 7-2-1 against their 7 common opponents. Percentage-wise GAC comes out slightly ahead [.7000 to .6842]; point-wise, SP comes out far ahead [27 to 15]. The bracketology says that the criteria can be applied differently in different situations, which makes it impossible to tell how GAC and SP will be ranked this week.
If Adrian were to lose, that moves them into the C pool. Quick comparisons to SP and GAC show that today: Adrian takes win/loss % and COP; SP takes head-to-head, SOS and last 25%. Adrian takes win/loss%, head-to-head, last 25%, and COP; GAC takes SOS.
All this is assuming a 4-4 split, and I don’t think that is a given. It also makes no comparisons between East and West teams vying for the C pool spots. It also assumes that everyone out East who is supposed to win does so. It all makes for a very interesting upcoming weekend of hockey.
The race between Stevens Point and Gustavus is too close to call. Assuming all of my calculations are right, GAC comes out ahead in win/loss % and head-to-head. SP comes out ahead in SOS and last 25%. I’m not sure how COP is determined (whether it is a straight percentage or if points are awarded for wins and ties). SP’s record is 13-5-1 and GAC’s record is 7-2-1 against their 7 common opponents. Percentage-wise GAC comes out slightly ahead [.7000 to .6842]; point-wise, SP comes out far ahead [27 to 15]. The bracketology says that the criteria can be applied differently in different situations, which makes it impossible to tell how GAC and SP will be ranked this week.
If Adrian were to lose, that moves them into the C pool. Quick comparisons to SP and GAC show that today: Adrian takes win/loss % and COP; SP takes head-to-head, SOS and last 25%. Adrian takes win/loss%, head-to-head, last 25%, and COP; GAC takes SOS.
All this is assuming a 4-4 split, and I don’t think that is a given. It also makes no comparisons between East and West teams vying for the C pool spots. It also assumes that everyone out East who is supposed to win does so. It all makes for a very interesting upcoming weekend of hockey.
gojackets
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
Looking at the bracketology on the D3hockeywebsite. The only way River Falls doesn't make it is if Middlebury, Norwich, and Adrian all lose their conference tourneys and then there is still a good chance they are in.
The Elmira/Plattsburgh loser (assuming they win their semi's) is in no matter what.
D3hockey has always treated River Falls as the other "in no matter what--barring too many upsets."
Gustavus is below River Falls, if Adrian loses they would drop below River Falls...that would make Middlebury, Norwich, & River Falls vying for 2 spots. They could solve the whole problem there by picking Middlebury and Norwich and having a 6-2 split, which avoids a flight because it would be Bethel/St. Thomas at St. Norbert(or LFC)
The other intriguing thing is in the case of the 4-4 split when comparing Gustavus to Stevens Point. If Gustavus makes it they have to fly a team, if Stevens Point makes it they don't. I know its not supposed to factor into the decision of "who makes it", but would it? If it is Adrian, River Falls, Gustavus, and St Thomas/Bethel...you would have to fly St Thomas/Bethel to Adrian and then Gustavus at River Falls.
Which is why I think its safe to say that Gustavus' season is over.
Looking at the bracketology on the D3hockeywebsite. The only way River Falls doesn't make it is if Middlebury, Norwich, and Adrian all lose their conference tourneys and then there is still a good chance they are in.
The Elmira/Plattsburgh loser (assuming they win their semi's) is in no matter what.
D3hockey has always treated River Falls as the other "in no matter what--barring too many upsets."
Gustavus is below River Falls, if Adrian loses they would drop below River Falls...that would make Middlebury, Norwich, & River Falls vying for 2 spots. They could solve the whole problem there by picking Middlebury and Norwich and having a 6-2 split, which avoids a flight because it would be Bethel/St. Thomas at St. Norbert(or LFC)
The other intriguing thing is in the case of the 4-4 split when comparing Gustavus to Stevens Point. If Gustavus makes it they have to fly a team, if Stevens Point makes it they don't. I know its not supposed to factor into the decision of "who makes it", but would it? If it is Adrian, River Falls, Gustavus, and St Thomas/Bethel...you would have to fly St Thomas/Bethel to Adrian and then Gustavus at River Falls.
Which is why I think its safe to say that Gustavus' season is over.
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I do believe the NCAA will fly if they have to. I believe with these numbers would mean that GAC would be in. However, it has seemed that the Committees have fallen in love with L25 and have always favored SOS. I guess I won't be surprised either way. GAC would have no one but themselves to blame. They didn't lose 1-0 to a 60 save performance by a goaltender standing on her head. They were beaten fairly soundly in their conference semis. Matthew seems to think GAC is the choice over UWSP, but I could see it going either way. Who would you trust?
from Matthew Webb on another website said:
I do believe the NCAA will fly if they have to. I believe with these numbers would mean that GAC would be in. However, it has seemed that the Committees have fallen in love with L25 and have always favored SOS. I guess I won't be surprised either way. GAC would have no one but themselves to blame. They didn't lose 1-0 to a 60 save performance by a goaltender standing on her head. They were beaten fairly soundly in their conference semis. Matthew seems to think GAC is the choice over UWSP, but I could see it going either way. Who would you trust?
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
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PrezdeJohnson09
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Re: D3 scores 2014-2015
St. Thomas got buzzing pretty good there toward the end of the 1st. Had a near goal off a scrum in front of Leonard with about a minute left.
St. Thomas got buzzing pretty good there toward the end of the 1st. Had a near goal off a scrum in front of Leonard with about a minute left.