PSUChamps2001
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You keep skipping over the other two teams. Hmmm I wonder why?
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D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
- Thread starter gojackets
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You keep skipping over the other two teams. Hmmm I wonder why?
PSUChamps2001
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Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
Welcome to the past 6 hours....that is the WHOLE point. NONE of the DII teams that Norwich plays count towards their record. Hence why when you look at the NCAA Rankings its missing a bunch of wins. The It was brought up that these DII teams are "terrible", and the point was made (tho some can't grasp it) that the DII teams (minus St.Mikes) are anything but terrible. While they're not Plattsburgh, they're certainly not the bottom of the DIII world. Some people want to toss KRACH around, but when you point out that the said DII teams would all be in the top half (if not top 1/3) of KRACH, they try to find another lame excuse. When you point out that said teams have been competitive against ranked teams (might not win, but if you're a terrible team you shouldn't lose by a goal or two, let alone outshoot/outplay someone), they try to come up with another excuse. Facts are facts, 3 of the 4 DII teams are just as good as the high majority of DIII women's teams and those games SHOULD count in overall record and not be seen as "sad". If these DII teams were the Wesleyan, Williams and Smith, Colby and other "terrible" teams, I'd agree....they are FAR from that. If people can't see it, then you have to wonder their competence.
And Utica is obviously better then Plattsburgh too...
Welcome to the past 6 hours....that is the WHOLE point. NONE of the DII teams that Norwich plays count towards their record. Hence why when you look at the NCAA Rankings its missing a bunch of wins. The It was brought up that these DII teams are "terrible", and the point was made (tho some can't grasp it) that the DII teams (minus St.Mikes) are anything but terrible. While they're not Plattsburgh, they're certainly not the bottom of the DIII world. Some people want to toss KRACH around, but when you point out that the said DII teams would all be in the top half (if not top 1/3) of KRACH, they try to find another lame excuse. When you point out that said teams have been competitive against ranked teams (might not win, but if you're a terrible team you shouldn't lose by a goal or two, let alone outshoot/outplay someone), they try to come up with another excuse. Facts are facts, 3 of the 4 DII teams are just as good as the high majority of DIII women's teams and those games SHOULD count in overall record and not be seen as "sad". If these DII teams were the Wesleyan, Williams and Smith, Colby and other "terrible" teams, I'd agree....they are FAR from that. If people can't see it, then you have to wonder their competence.
HockeyEast33
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Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
I could bring up the fact that Holy Cross is really a D1 (not DII) team that plays a DIII schedule .... would that help
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I could bring up the fact that Holy Cross is really a D1 (not DII) team that plays a DIII schedule .... would that help
....?PSUChamps2001
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I could bring up the fact that Holy Cross is really a D1 (not DII) team that plays a DIII schedule .... would that help
Sorry I should have put non DIII teams
would that help?
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
Holy Cross and Saint Anselm would both be top 15 D3 teams, arguably pushing top 10.
Saint Anselm beat Castleton 8-0 earlier this year. Franklin Pierce would be around top 20.
Calling these three wins for Norwich a joke is sadly misguided and shows your complete lack of understanding of the East.
Holy Cross and Saint Anselm would both be top 15 D3 teams, arguably pushing top 10.
Saint Anselm beat Castleton 8-0 earlier this year. Franklin Pierce would be around top 20.
Calling these three wins for Norwich a joke is sadly misguided and shows your complete lack of understanding of the East.
PSUChamps2001
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Game. Set. Match. Thanks for playing, leave your garbage at the door.
gojackets
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Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
Yes...because once Derek says it...it is truth.
You think that at some point you would realize that half of what I post is just to get you to flame out.
Yes...because once Derek says it...it is truth.
You think that at some point you would realize that half of what I post is just to get you to flame out.
PSUChamps2001
Member of the REAL Zoo Crew
Or you're just the type when you lose your argument you resort to the "oh I was just kidding".....
Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
I don't know, isn't the season series tied 1-1? (I really love collegehockeystats.com)
But I think that you might be making the argument that even if Plattsburgh loses the NCAA Championship, they are still the best team? Typical arrogance from a Plattsburgh fans, parents & players. Remember the time Plattsburgh chocked to Middlebury?! Lets Go OSWEGO!!!
I don't know, isn't the season series tied 1-1? (I really love collegehockeystats.com)
But I think that you might be making the argument that even if Plattsburgh loses the NCAA Championship, they are still the best team? Typical arrogance from a Plattsburgh fans, parents & players. Remember the time Plattsburgh chocked to Middlebury?! Lets Go OSWEGO!!!
PSUChamps2001
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1. If you're going to attempt to make a lame dig at someone, you might want to try using the correct website for starters.
2. Plattsburgh's record this year and the past few speaks for itself. If a team was to upset Plattsburgh and the National Title doesn't sit at the Stafford Ice Arena at years end, of course it's a disappointment. With their record vs. just about every contender, yes I'd say Plattsburgh is the best team. Was the 1980 US team better than the Soviets? That night maybe. Even Herb said "if we play them 10 times, we probably lose 9." I know its a hard concept to grasp.
3. What is chocked by the way? If Plattsburgh "choked" that year, I guess that means Middlebury wasn't that deserving to win?
4. I think it's a fair bet the majority of people would say Plattsburgh is the best team this year. The best team doesn't always win. Big deal?
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It does get tough when you get everyone's best effort night after night. Against Utica? Plattsburgh had an off night, Utica took it to them, and Utica deserved to win. The very next day? Plattsburgh was clearly the best team from the drop of the puck and the Cardinals won. Nothing says this season is inevitable, but Plattsburgh will be the favorite in each game they play. Therefore, if they don't win, they'll be disappointed. It's not arrogant, Call It, it's the way it is.
Do you think the Carolina Panthers and the New England Patriots agree with that last statement?
It does get tough when you get everyone's best effort night after night. Against Utica? Plattsburgh had an off night, Utica took it to them, and Utica deserved to win. The very next day? Plattsburgh was clearly the best team from the drop of the puck and the Cardinals won. Nothing says this season is inevitable, but Plattsburgh will be the favorite in each game they play. Therefore, if they don't win, they'll be disappointed. It's not arrogant, Call It, it's the way it is.
Do you think the Carolina Panthers and the New England Patriots agree with that last statement?
PSUChamps2001
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Josh Norman said it yesterday himself that he still feels Carolina was the best/better team. Might not have had the best defense (ala goalie in hockey), but feels their team was better. I'm sure if you ask the Patriots from their undefeated year, they would say the same. We crown people Champions, it doesn't always mean you're the best team and or had the best team all year.
gojackets
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Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
I haven't lost an argument...so why would I resort to "just kidding"?
I haven't lost an argument...so why would I resort to "just kidding"?
Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
A champion is a champion for a reason. They are the best team because, ultimately, they are the team that shows up to win when it really counts. Anyone can win when there's no pressure. It takes a lot for an entire team to come together and play their very best when it means the most. So, in my book, the team that wins the National title IS the best team, regardless of how their season went. That's why playoffs exist in the first place - weeds out the weak.
A champion is a champion for a reason. They are the best team because, ultimately, they are the team that shows up to win when it really counts. Anyone can win when there's no pressure. It takes a lot for an entire team to come together and play their very best when it means the most. So, in my book, the team that wins the National title IS the best team, regardless of how their season went. That's why playoffs exist in the first place - weeds out the weak.
Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
See arrogance! "Plattsburgh had an off night", thus Plattsburgh beat themselves, not Plattsburgh played really well and Utica just played above themselves.
Adrian or UWRF are going to play Plattsburgh very tough if they meet in the NCAA. I have heard Plattsburgh is very talented but soft like marshmallow. You know the ironic part is that Coach Houle isn't soft or arrogant.
See arrogance! "Plattsburgh had an off night", thus Plattsburgh beat themselves, not Plattsburgh played really well and Utica just played above themselves.
Adrian or UWRF are going to play Plattsburgh very tough if they meet in the NCAA. I have heard Plattsburgh is very talented but soft like marshmallow. You know the ironic part is that Coach Houle isn't soft or arrogant.
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Reread my quote again genius: I did not say Utica played above themselves. I said that Utica took it to Plattsburgh. Huge difference, but I appreciate you trying to rewrite what I was thinking. If you look back at my comments on that day, Utica absolutely was the better team on the ice that day. They were also unable to duplicate the effort a second day.
I don't have any doubt that all of the games from here on out will be nail-biters. I'm not sure where you heard "soft like marshmallows", but I've been watching this team for years, and I don't see "soft like marshmallows". Elmira, Middlebury, Norwich, and Adrian have all played Plattsburgh tough this year, but to date haven't been able to roast the marshmallows.
I don't speak for Houle or the team, so what is ironic about Kevin Houle not being arrogant?
The Plattsburgh Cardinals have lost 5 games in the last four years. As a fan of the team and not a representative, I get to be confident in the team's performance and chances going forward.
Reread my quote again genius: I did not say Utica played above themselves. I said that Utica took it to Plattsburgh. Huge difference, but I appreciate you trying to rewrite what I was thinking. If you look back at my comments on that day, Utica absolutely was the better team on the ice that day. They were also unable to duplicate the effort a second day.
I don't have any doubt that all of the games from here on out will be nail-biters. I'm not sure where you heard "soft like marshmallows", but I've been watching this team for years, and I don't see "soft like marshmallows". Elmira, Middlebury, Norwich, and Adrian have all played Plattsburgh tough this year, but to date haven't been able to roast the marshmallows.
I don't speak for Houle or the team, so what is ironic about Kevin Houle not being arrogant?
The Plattsburgh Cardinals have lost 5 games in the last four years. As a fan of the team and not a representative, I get to be confident in the team's performance and chances going forward.
bobbunnell
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SeymoreHockey
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Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
Can't wait for the games to be played so we can move on from this mindless drivel. Sheesh!!
Can't wait for the games to be played so we can move on from this mindless drivel. Sheesh!!