HockeyEast33
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Re: D3 Hockey is back!
Never said that winning a national title was a prerequisite for being consistently good. Consistency implies good over an extended period of time (10 years or more is long enough for me). Using last 14 years of NCAA (comparable to D3 even though the D1 tourney has been around longer) and last 5 years of NCAA (to address your attention span):
- Harvard - Yes, consistently good for me - success over both 14 and 5 year horizons
---14 years - 10 NCAA tourneys, 3 2nd place finishes, 2 3rd place finishes
--- 5 years - 3 NCAA tourneys, 1 2nd place finish
- Boston College - Borderline consistently good - more of a recent phenomenon largely based on Alex Carpenter's arrival - will need to be sustained after her departure.
--- 14 years - 7 NCAA tourneys, 4 3rd place finishes
--- 5 years - 4 NCAA tourneys, 3 3rd place finishes
- UMD - No longer consistently good - Previously consistently good but their abysmal recent 5 year history shows no longer.
--- 14 years - 9 NCAA tourneys, 4 1st place finishes, 1 2nd place finish, 1 3rd place finish
--- 5 years - 1 NCAA tourney (5 yrs ago), no top 4 finishes
None of these three are really directly analogous to the Elmira, Middlebury, or Norwich situations - maybe Harvard/Middlebury and BC/Norwich are the closest.
So you brought up D1. Would you consider Harvard and Boston College to be consistently good teams? They've never won a national title, so they must not be as good as any of those top WCHA teams right? Would you still consider UMD a good team? They won a lot of national titles 10-15 years ago...does that still qualify them as elite today?
Never said that winning a national title was a prerequisite for being consistently good. Consistency implies good over an extended period of time (10 years or more is long enough for me). Using last 14 years of NCAA (comparable to D3 even though the D1 tourney has been around longer) and last 5 years of NCAA (to address your attention span):
- Harvard - Yes, consistently good for me - success over both 14 and 5 year horizons
---14 years - 10 NCAA tourneys, 3 2nd place finishes, 2 3rd place finishes
--- 5 years - 3 NCAA tourneys, 1 2nd place finish
- Boston College - Borderline consistently good - more of a recent phenomenon largely based on Alex Carpenter's arrival - will need to be sustained after her departure.
--- 14 years - 7 NCAA tourneys, 4 3rd place finishes
--- 5 years - 4 NCAA tourneys, 3 3rd place finishes
- UMD - No longer consistently good - Previously consistently good but their abysmal recent 5 year history shows no longer.
--- 14 years - 9 NCAA tourneys, 4 1st place finishes, 1 2nd place finish, 1 3rd place finish
--- 5 years - 1 NCAA tourney (5 yrs ago), no top 4 finishes
None of these three are really directly analogous to the Elmira, Middlebury, or Norwich situations - maybe Harvard/Middlebury and BC/Norwich are the closest.
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